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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: MarkBsnr
Just as the devil can cite Scripture, so, too, can men finagle the words of Scripture and various confessions to mean something altogether disreputable.

Mary is not the "spouse of the Holy Spirit."

Rome's preoccupation with the sexual relations of Christ's family and His disciples has always been one of its short-comings.

BXVI's visit to Britain and the resulting reclaiming of millions of people to Christianity.

lol. Reclaiming? The crowds, thank God, were much less than Rome had predicted.

And the only reason Ratzinger went to Britain was in order to shore up his flagging church throughout the British Isles. He's hoping to poach some misguided Anglicans. A fairly fruitless goal.

6,281 posted on 09/19/2010 4:07:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Q. 1. What is the chief end of man? A. Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him for ever. /?B> That is a HUGE Amen
6,282 posted on 09/19/2010 4:08:55 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: circlecity
"What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God"

AMEN! What beautiful, reassuring Scripture from God directly to the hearts and minds of Christ's sheep.

6,283 posted on 09/19/2010 4:09:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings
The former pope, not the current one, who, as has been pointed out already, was more concerned with dealing with communism and, in coalition with Reagan and Thatcher, was quite successful.

Yea we all know politics is more important than honoring false gods..

6,284 posted on 09/19/2010 4:19:14 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: RnMomof7
"enjoy Him forever"

The Westminster divines knew their Bible and they understood the confidence and assurance Christ has promised to all who pick up their cross and follow Him.

Then, and only then, does life truly become fruitful and reasonable and happy and loving. Because then and only then do our lives mirror the Creator and His many blessings.

"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." -- Colossians 2:13-15


6,285 posted on 09/19/2010 4:20:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Hmmm....Isn’t Lawrence Auster a white supremicist?


6,286 posted on 09/19/2010 4:26:17 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: RnMomof7; Pyro7480; 1000 silverlings
And anyone who thinks either Thatcher or JPII actually had much input into bringing down the Berlin Wall or Communism has bought into the comic book version of history.

American might has always spread the accolades around, but that is done to prevent the world from thinking the only super power left in this world actually runs the planet.

Which it has done since 1947, if not a century before.

Thank God. While not perfect, it's preferable to the alternatives.

6,287 posted on 09/19/2010 4:26:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

lol. No, Auster is not a “white supremacist.”

Typical killing of the messenger (although apparently most who target Auster are socialists.)

I’d never heard of him until he came up on google. His quotes in my post were 100% accurate.


6,288 posted on 09/19/2010 4:38:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
"Isn’t Lawrence Auster a white supremicist?"

Well, as long as he is anti-Catholic he can't be all bad.

6,289 posted on 09/19/2010 4:42:23 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: kosta50; D-fendr; maryz; bkaycee
Why is it your fault since you deny free will?

When I follow the Lord's will, I'm find. When I follow my will I fail, but the Lord will guide me back to the right path. There is no "free will". There is only the Lord's will and my will.

6,290 posted on 09/19/2010 4:52:17 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Natural Law
I am somewhat flattered that my words were in need of distortion. It puts me in the company of Scripture, the Catholic Church and recorded history.

I appreciate your efforts on behalf of Christianity, my friend. Perhaps you may influence pagans to become Christians; that is a great hope.

On a slightly different subject; Is a lie still a lie when the truth is not expected?

Yes. A lie is a lie. The truth is the truth. We are still Christians. The man made gulf still separates many from Christianity.

6,291 posted on 09/19/2010 4:56:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Typical killing of the messenger (although apparently most who target Auster are socialists.)

David Horowitz threw him off his magazine. Is Horowitz a socialist? I don't like him. Are you saying I'm a socialist?

6,292 posted on 09/19/2010 5:09:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Just as the devil can cite Scripture, so, too, can men finagle the words of Scripture and various confessions to mean something altogether disreputable.

And very often the confessions themselves are diabolical. The WCF comes to mind.

Rome's preoccupation with the sexual relations of Christ's family and His disciples has always been one of its short-comings.

What an amusing statement. I posted the small excerpt from the Nicene Creed which deals with Mary. If the OPC adherents cannot deal with Mary, so be it.

And the only reason Ratzinger went to Britain was in order to shore up his flagging church throughout the British Isles. He's hoping to poach some misguided Anglicans. A fairly fruitless goal.

My current pastor is an ex Baptist preacher (Army chaplain). I have had an ex Presbyterian priest and some from other religions who converted as well. The fruit is ripening and the reunification of Christianity is gaining momentum.

God is calling Christians home to the Church. But all Christians need to remember that when it comes to assuming salvation, that the first shall be last and the last shall be first. I remember the scorn poured upon Mother Teresa right here on FR. She made herself last, and the servant of all, as opposed to those who would assume salvational status, pouring scorn upon all others. I understand why Reformed beliefs would jettison Gospel teachings; it is simply incompatible with Christianty.

6,293 posted on 09/19/2010 5:09:48 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And anyone who thinks either Thatcher or JPII actually had much input into bringing down the Berlin Wall or Communism has bought into the comic book version of history.

In the real world, things are much different than what many believe. There were four. Reagan, Thatcher, JPII and Mulroney. The Soviets were scared to death of Reagan because of his reputation and (to them) unpredectibility; JPII because of the opposition he garnered in Poland and neighbouring countries; Thatcher because she was the leader of the second most powerful enemy and Mulroney because he was leader of the third.

6,294 posted on 09/19/2010 5:14:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"The man made gulf still separates many from Christianity."

Consider how Jesus Christ teaches us to be humble, by making us see that our virtue does not depend on our work alone but on grace from on high. He commands each of the faithful who prays to do so universally, for the whole world. For he did not say "thy will be done in me or in us," but "on earth," the whole earth, so that error may be banished from it, truth take root in it, all vice be destroyed on it, virtue flourish on it, and earth no longer differ from heaven. God's very being is Truth and Love.

6,295 posted on 09/19/2010 5:14:46 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Certainly it's interesting that while Rome calls muslims its "brother," Rome anathematizes (damns to hell) all Protestants who believe they have been saved by God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.

Muslims have a false god, only someone without discernment could look upon allah with respect .. says something about "papal infallibility " doesn't it?

6,296 posted on 09/19/2010 5:15:03 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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To: Judith Anne

“Hmmm....Isn’t Lawrence Auster a white supremicist?”

No, no of course not. He just is an example of Calvanist thought I guess.

From Auster:

“My mother told me that before she married my father, he told her that he would always have to take care of his brother. In fact, my uncle was of very limited intelligence, perhaps even borderline retarded, but it wasn’t something you automatically noticed because of the way he carried himself, his almost kingly manner and leonine appearance.

As I thought about my uncle in this light, I began to see through the “optical illusion” of racial equality. I realized how in ordinary interactions and behavior blacks seem on the whole like ourselves, indeed, often more vital than ourselves, with warm and vivid personalities, so we assume that any intellectual differences must be insignificant. It is only when we go beyond superficial contact and get to know them better, or when we observe them in a position requiring intelligence, that we see that, much more often than whites or Asians, they are unable to deal with more rigorous tasks. In undemanding, routine affairs they are, more or less, intellectually equal to whites. In more demanding settings they are not.”

OY GEVELT!


6,297 posted on 09/19/2010 5:19:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

Here’s the linky to this paragon

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/001132.html


6,298 posted on 09/19/2010 5:23:04 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: MarkBsnr
"God is calling Christians home to the Church."

That so many non-Catholics possess a fascination with the Church is evidence of God calling them.

6,299 posted on 09/19/2010 5:26:26 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: MarkBsnr
And very often the catechisms themselves are diabolical. The catholic Catechism .

This is true ...

6,300 posted on 09/19/2010 5:26:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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