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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

Friday, August 06, 2010

Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism

The magazine Religion Dispatches has a new piece up by Jonathan Fitzgerald, entitled, "Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism: Under the radar of most observers a trend is emerging of evangelicals converting to Catholicism."


As he points out, there are an increasing number Evangelicals coming into the Catholic Church. In fact, while my wife and I were at Fuller we witnessed this phenomenon firsthand. Indeed, students would come up and ask us if they could follow us to daily Mass (which was celebrated at a Catholic Church down the street). I went to Mass with many fellow students who had never experienced a Eucharistic liturgy. . . and, for many of them, once they started attending they couldn't stop.

Here's the story as Fitzgerald reports it:
In the fall of 1999, I was a freshman at Gordon College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Massachusetts. There, fifteen years earlier, a professor named Thomas Howard resigned from the English department when he felt his beliefs were no longer in line with the college’s statement of faith. Despite all those intervening years, during my time at Gordon the specter of Thomas Howard loomed large on campus. The story of his resignation captured my imagination; it came about, ultimately, because he converted to Roman Catholicism.

Though his reasons for converting were unclear and perhaps unimaginable to me at the time (they are actually well-documented in his book Evangelical is Not Enough which, back then, I had not yet read), his reasons seemed less important than the knowledge that it could happen. I had never heard of such a thing. . .

. . . [M]y parents never spoke ill of the Catholic Church; though the pastors and congregants of our non-denominational, charismatic church-that-met-in-a-warehouse, often did. Despite my firsthand experience with the Church, between the legend of my parents’ conversion (anything that happens in a child’s life before he is born is the stuff of legends) and the portrait of the Catholic Church as an oppressive institution that took all the fun out of being “saved,” I understood Catholicism as a religion that a person leaves when she becomes serious about her faith.

And yet, Thomas Howard is only the tip of the iceberg of a hastening trend of evangelicals converting to Catholicism. North Park University professor of religious studies Scot McKnight documented some of the reasons behind this trend in his important 2002 essay entitled “From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals become Roman Catholic.” The essay was originally published in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and was later included in a collection of conversion stories he co-edited with Hauna Ondrey entitled Finding Faith, Losing Faith: Stories of Conversion and Apostasy.

Thomas Howard comes in at number five on McKnight’s list of significant conversions, behind former Presbyterian pastor and author of Rome Sweet Home, Scott Hahn, and Marcus Grodi founder of The Coming Home Network International, an organization that provides “fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or have already been received into the Catholic Church,” according to their Web site. Other featured converts include singer-songwriter John Michael Talbot and Patrick Madrid, editor of the Surprised by Truth books, which showcase conversion stories.

Would Saint Augustine Go to a Southern Baptist Church in Houston?

McKnight first identified these converts eight years ago, and the trend has continued to grow in the intervening years. It shows up in a variety of places, in the musings of the late Michael Spencer (the “Internet Monk”) about his wife’s conversion and his decision not to follow, as well as at the Evangelical Theological Society where the former President and Baylor University professor Francis J. Beckwith made a well-documented “return to Rome.” Additionally, the conversion trend is once again picking up steam as the Millennial generation, the first to be born and raised in the contemporary brand of evangelicalism, comes of age. Though perhaps an unlikely setting, The King’s College, an evangelical Christian college in New York City, provides an excellent case study for the way this phenomenon is manifesting itself among young evangelicals.

The King’s College campus is comprised of two floors in the Empire State Building and some office space in a neighboring building on Fifth Avenue. The approximately 300 students who attend King’s are thoughtful, considerate and serious. They are also intellectually curious. This combination of traits, it turns out, makes the college a ripe breeding ground for interest in Roman Catholicism. Among the traits of the Catholic Church that attract TKC students—and indeed many young evangelicals at large—are its history, emphasis on liturgy, and tradition of intellectualism.

Lucas Croslow was one such student to whom these and other attributes of Catholicism appealed. This past spring, graduating from The King’s College was not the only major change in Croslow’s life, he was also confirmed into the Catholic Church.

Croslow’s interest in Catholicism began over six years ago when he was a sophomore in high school. At the time, Croslow’s Midwestern evangelical church experienced a crisis that is all too common among evangelical churches: what he describes as “a crisis of spiritual authority.” As a result of experiencing disappointment in his pastor, Croslow began to question everything he had learned from him. This questioning led him to study the historical origins of scripture and then of the Christian church itself. Eventually he concluded that Catholicism in its current form is the closest iteration of the early church fathers’ intentions. He asks, “If Saint Augustine showed up today, could we seriously think that he’d attend a Southern Baptist church in Houston?” The answer, to Croslow, is a resounding “No.”
 
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You can read the rest here.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; converts; evangelical; freformed
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To: Salvation

It’s still 4-to-1 in the other direction.


841 posted on 08/09/2010 3:24:52 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: smvoice

The Pope says Peter is the prince of the apostles.

And Peter says he’s is one of the elders.

...THE HEAD OF THE WHOLE CHURCH and father and teacher of all christian people.

I’d say the Pope has control issues. The Father is God The Father and the Teacher is the Holy Spirit to all Christian people.

Nice try - Pope - stick to ruling your Catholic subjects.

Christians are The Church and Jesus is The Head of HIS Church and HIS WORD rules. Pure, simple and clean.


842 posted on 08/09/2010 3:25:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: smvoice

Not familiar with what the Vicar of Christ actually is, are you?


843 posted on 08/09/2010 3:26:40 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: bronx2
To argue that it is a finished destination is to be guilty of the sin of PRESUMPTION which is one of the deadly sins which Jesus mentioned is a sin against the Spirit and could not be forgiven. If that be the case then like in Dante’s Inferno you should abandoned hope all who enter this sin of PRESUMPTION. How sad your eternal salvation is being held in the balance.

It's not a presumption for a born again child of God...

If you'd spend less time in Dante's Inferno and a little time in the scriptures, and trust Jesus as your Savior, you'd get over this presumption stuff rather quickly...

844 posted on 08/09/2010 3:29:10 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Cronos
Why exactly is it just excerpts? I guess the OPC thinking is why have all the nasty stuff like the letter of James or the Gospels or the OT.

LOL!Sooo... Every week MUST be Gospels, Must be James? And I don't even know where the "OT" thing is coming from... Zechariah IS OT...

845 posted on 08/09/2010 3:30:14 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: TheStickman; presently no screen name
I'm familiar with Catholics saying Christ is the Head in one place, the Pope is the head, in the First Vatican Council, and Peter, as the "first pope" would have been the head, according to the FVC, and the always popular representative of Christ on earth, the Vicar of Christ.

So many answers to "who is the head of the Church?" One question, many answers. As usual.

846 posted on 08/09/2010 3:32:19 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: Deo volente; RnMomof7; Gamecock; Iscool; caww; boatbums; smvoice; presently no screen name; ...
What do Protestants say about this?

Paul's in now? It's OK to quote him after all?

847 posted on 08/09/2010 3:33:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Paul's in now? It's OK to quote him after all?

Ping to that girl!

848 posted on 08/09/2010 3:38:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: wagglebee
He PERSONALLY questioned whether or not they were part of Canon, but he accepted Church teaching rather than his own opinion or the opinion of the Jews. His prologue to Judith mentions that the First Council of Nicaea had accepted Judith as Canon.

You seem to fail to accept that your own official biblical translator rejected the Apocrypha but included it in his version against his own wishes by the Roman religion that demanded it be there...

And yet you guys follow the dictates of Rome even tho you know their own expert says it doesn't belong there...

849 posted on 08/09/2010 3:39:16 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Cronos
So, do you not use the term "Doctor"? What about those who get their Ph.D's in theology? Or the Rev. Dr. etc.?

What is it with this incessant inability to understand the difference between the common sense of a word, and it's use in veneration?

As to a doctor, as in physician, yes, I use the term all the time.

But wrt "doctor of the church"... It has no bearing, nor does it garner any respect from me. Men are men. I have heard great wisdom in a roadside tent. It is the Spirit within them that is the "Doctor of the Church," not some foolish degree, or the accolade of mortals.

850 posted on 08/09/2010 3:39:53 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix
Sometimes understatement slaps me up-side the face.

I try and lie down until it goes away.

LOL! Thank God for that!

Thanks for the snicker... It made my day.

851 posted on 08/09/2010 3:43:18 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Deo volente

Never give me a Catholic link as proof of anything.

You were given Scriptures that tell EXACTLY who is the Head of God’s Church. Christ, the anointed ONE. Along with Scripture - Peter saying he is one of the elders.

You either believe and obey God’s Word - or NOT.


852 posted on 08/09/2010 3:46:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: metmom; Deo volente
lol! It depends on whether they think they can mangle verses and we won't notice..

Like THIS one..

"Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church." (Col. 1:24).

To complete, not the sufferings of Christ for our sins, but that which all believers are called to suffer for the church and truth. See Romans 8:18, 2 Timothy 3:12, to learn more. Or not, if learning more is not the point..

853 posted on 08/09/2010 3:47:51 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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To: metmom; Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg
Or are you criticizing the OPC for not reading the entire Bible every Sunday during worship service?

I think their undies are in a bunch over the gentle ministrations of Dr.Eckleburg. Since she is ever blessed with an unconquerable spirit, what is left is to try to attack her foundations.

Guess what? That won't work either.

854 posted on 08/09/2010 3:48:06 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix

AMEN, and thx.


855 posted on 08/09/2010 3:49:14 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: presently no screen name

*It is written...* as an appeal to the authority of Scripture that is good enough for Jesus to use to verify Himself, is good enough for me to use.


856 posted on 08/09/2010 3:53:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7
from Augustine

...Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be recognized. Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer. Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327.

Isn't that something...They will throw their own church fathers under the bus if it suits their purpose...

857 posted on 08/09/2010 3:57:32 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Quix
I wonder . . . how soon do you think the Anninais and Saphira incidents are going to dramatically increase?

I’ve been expecting that for some time . . . Not quite yet it seems . . . yet, I think it could break out most any day—probably with the next great push of Holy Spirit . . . in the midst of great revival in the midst of great chaos and suffering.

I am less anticipatory than you are, brother. I just intend to be wide awake. It's coming. Of that there is no doubt. You can feel it in the air. But as to the various permutations, methodology, and means... I prefer to keep my powder dry. : )

Pomp and circumstance and prancing about vain gloriously by some will be stopped very short very dramatically. NO MORE prancing about in pomp and circumstance for such individuals whether high and mighty or just perverse and contrary.

Amen to that! Let's work, however, while the sun shines. The darkness of night is soon enough!

Thx for the post

858 posted on 08/09/2010 3:57:49 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: smvoice

Respectfully, I can assure you as a Catholic convert I have never been told there are multiple answers as to who is the Head of the Church. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Catholic Church. Period.

The Holy Spirit leads the Magisterium (Pope & bishops) who protects the Teachings of the Church, Founded by Jesus Christ here on earth.


859 posted on 08/09/2010 4:01:05 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Cronos
No Gospels! I wonder why?

Because they teach the 'whole counsel of God'...Your religion doesn't do that, does it...

860 posted on 08/09/2010 4:01:46 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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