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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

Friday, August 06, 2010

Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism

The magazine Religion Dispatches has a new piece up by Jonathan Fitzgerald, entitled, "Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism: Under the radar of most observers a trend is emerging of evangelicals converting to Catholicism."


As he points out, there are an increasing number Evangelicals coming into the Catholic Church. In fact, while my wife and I were at Fuller we witnessed this phenomenon firsthand. Indeed, students would come up and ask us if they could follow us to daily Mass (which was celebrated at a Catholic Church down the street). I went to Mass with many fellow students who had never experienced a Eucharistic liturgy. . . and, for many of them, once they started attending they couldn't stop.

Here's the story as Fitzgerald reports it:
In the fall of 1999, I was a freshman at Gordon College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Massachusetts. There, fifteen years earlier, a professor named Thomas Howard resigned from the English department when he felt his beliefs were no longer in line with the college’s statement of faith. Despite all those intervening years, during my time at Gordon the specter of Thomas Howard loomed large on campus. The story of his resignation captured my imagination; it came about, ultimately, because he converted to Roman Catholicism.

Though his reasons for converting were unclear and perhaps unimaginable to me at the time (they are actually well-documented in his book Evangelical is Not Enough which, back then, I had not yet read), his reasons seemed less important than the knowledge that it could happen. I had never heard of such a thing. . .

. . . [M]y parents never spoke ill of the Catholic Church; though the pastors and congregants of our non-denominational, charismatic church-that-met-in-a-warehouse, often did. Despite my firsthand experience with the Church, between the legend of my parents’ conversion (anything that happens in a child’s life before he is born is the stuff of legends) and the portrait of the Catholic Church as an oppressive institution that took all the fun out of being “saved,” I understood Catholicism as a religion that a person leaves when she becomes serious about her faith.

And yet, Thomas Howard is only the tip of the iceberg of a hastening trend of evangelicals converting to Catholicism. North Park University professor of religious studies Scot McKnight documented some of the reasons behind this trend in his important 2002 essay entitled “From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals become Roman Catholic.” The essay was originally published in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and was later included in a collection of conversion stories he co-edited with Hauna Ondrey entitled Finding Faith, Losing Faith: Stories of Conversion and Apostasy.

Thomas Howard comes in at number five on McKnight’s list of significant conversions, behind former Presbyterian pastor and author of Rome Sweet Home, Scott Hahn, and Marcus Grodi founder of The Coming Home Network International, an organization that provides “fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or have already been received into the Catholic Church,” according to their Web site. Other featured converts include singer-songwriter John Michael Talbot and Patrick Madrid, editor of the Surprised by Truth books, which showcase conversion stories.

Would Saint Augustine Go to a Southern Baptist Church in Houston?

McKnight first identified these converts eight years ago, and the trend has continued to grow in the intervening years. It shows up in a variety of places, in the musings of the late Michael Spencer (the “Internet Monk”) about his wife’s conversion and his decision not to follow, as well as at the Evangelical Theological Society where the former President and Baylor University professor Francis J. Beckwith made a well-documented “return to Rome.” Additionally, the conversion trend is once again picking up steam as the Millennial generation, the first to be born and raised in the contemporary brand of evangelicalism, comes of age. Though perhaps an unlikely setting, The King’s College, an evangelical Christian college in New York City, provides an excellent case study for the way this phenomenon is manifesting itself among young evangelicals.

The King’s College campus is comprised of two floors in the Empire State Building and some office space in a neighboring building on Fifth Avenue. The approximately 300 students who attend King’s are thoughtful, considerate and serious. They are also intellectually curious. This combination of traits, it turns out, makes the college a ripe breeding ground for interest in Roman Catholicism. Among the traits of the Catholic Church that attract TKC students—and indeed many young evangelicals at large—are its history, emphasis on liturgy, and tradition of intellectualism.

Lucas Croslow was one such student to whom these and other attributes of Catholicism appealed. This past spring, graduating from The King’s College was not the only major change in Croslow’s life, he was also confirmed into the Catholic Church.

Croslow’s interest in Catholicism began over six years ago when he was a sophomore in high school. At the time, Croslow’s Midwestern evangelical church experienced a crisis that is all too common among evangelical churches: what he describes as “a crisis of spiritual authority.” As a result of experiencing disappointment in his pastor, Croslow began to question everything he had learned from him. This questioning led him to study the historical origins of scripture and then of the Christian church itself. Eventually he concluded that Catholicism in its current form is the closest iteration of the early church fathers’ intentions. He asks, “If Saint Augustine showed up today, could we seriously think that he’d attend a Southern Baptist church in Houston?” The answer, to Croslow, is a resounding “No.”
 
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You can read the rest here.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; converts; evangelical; freformed
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To: roamer_1; verga; Quix; metmom; ansel12
Yes, you're right -- He IS Risen, that's why we worship the Risen Lord during Mass, why we have the REAL Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Isn't it wonderful that the RISEN LORD gave us His Church, protected by His Holy Spirit and guided by His Apostles? Wonderful!
621 posted on 08/09/2010 6:57:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: roamer_1
So, do you not use the term "Doctor"? What about those who get their Ph.D's in theology? Or the Rev. Dr. etc.?

Acts 7:2 has Stephen use the honorific "father" as a term of respect for his elders: "2To this he replied: "Brothers and fathers, listen to me!"

You have 1 John 2:13 " 13I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning."
622 posted on 08/09/2010 7:07:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: roamer_1

INDEED.

SAD.


623 posted on 08/09/2010 7:07:58 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

ok, however, you seek Christ, you can find Him in the Real Presence in the Eucharist.


624 posted on 08/09/2010 7:09:16 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Iscool

http://biblos.com/john/3-5.htm

http://bible.cc/john/3-5.htm

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=NIV
John 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

4”How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!”

5Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

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Being born of water is the physical birth. Verse six lays to rest the contention that eating the Eucharist does anything spiritually.


625 posted on 08/09/2010 7:13:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: roamer_1; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

It sometimes appears that the following verse is too little appreciated or too little understood.


Luke 12:10
And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.


626 posted on 08/09/2010 7:14:21 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom; AnneM62; RnMomof7; boatbums; smvoice; presently no screen name; roamer_1
As I said before in post #467 which you did not read:

Christ died once and for all in space-time for our sins. It’s a common mistake to always equate sacrifice with death. To understand the sacrifice of the Mass, it is essential that one understand the biblical picture of a sacrifice: It is always a gift; it is not always a killing. This is why Scripture can speak of a sacrifice of praise (Hos. 4:12) and the sacrifice of thanksgiving (Ps. 50:14).

Christ’s bloody sacrifice on Calvary took place once, and it will never be repeated. To repeat his sacrifice would be to imply that the original offering was defective or insufficient, like the animal sacrifices of the Old Testament that could never take away sins. Jesus’ offering was perfect, efficacious, and eternal.

Jesus is eternally a priest, and a priest’s very nature is to offer sacrifice. In the case of Christ, the eternal sacrifice that he offers is himself. This is why he appears in the book of Revelation as a lamb, standing as though he had been slain (Rev. 5:6). He appears in heaven in the state of a victim not because he still needs to suffer but because for all eternity he re-presents himself to God appealing to the work of the cross, interceding for us (Rom 8:34), and bringing the graces of Calvary to us.

The Mass is a participation in this one heavenly offering. The risen Christ becomes present on the altar and offers himself to God as a living sacrifice. Like the Mass, Christ words at the Last Supper are words of sacrifice, "This is my body . . . this is my blood . . . given up for you." So, the Mass is not repeating the murder of Jesus, but is taking part in what never ends: the offering of Christ to the Father for our sake (Heb 7:25, 9:24). After all, if Calvary didn’t get the job done, then the Mass won’t help. It is precisely because the death of Christ was sufficient that the Mass is celebrated. It does not add to or take away from the work of Christ—it is the work of Christ.

Isn’t it glorious — the Sacrifice is done, once and for all, the Eucharist is where we experience this once and for all time sacrifice. It’s the Real Presence! Where you experience the personal relationship with Christ in the Eucharist! Beautiful isn’t it, being in communion with the Lord in the Lord’s One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church?

627 posted on 08/09/2010 7:14:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: roamer_1
Sometimes understatement slaps me up-side the face.

I try and lie down until it goes away.


628 posted on 08/09/2010 7:16:23 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

In the Eucharist you get the spiritual food that is Christ, you celebrate the Risen Christ and His one time sacrifice that saved you. You can experience a personal relationship with Christ in the Eucharist. Your mind, body, soul, spirit experience Christ in the fullness of Christ, with the blessings of the Father and the care of the Holy Spirit.


629 posted on 08/09/2010 7:17:00 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: roamer_1

I’d have never thought so.

Now . . . I wonder . . .


630 posted on 08/09/2010 7:17:22 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Cronos

What a
HILLARIOUS
(YET PATHETIC)
!FARCE!
OF AN
ASSERTION!

631 posted on 08/09/2010 7:18:57 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom; verga; roamer_1; Quix; ansel12
Yes, in Christ's One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church, we experience Christ, the Risen Lord who conquered death.

It's great to experience Christ who carried out His ONE-TIME sacrifice in the Mass and the Eucharist where we have the TRUE PRESENCE of Christ. It's great thanks to the Holy SPirit who blesses and in whose presence we have the celebration of the mass. We read from the OT, Gospels, Psalms, Epistles and Revelation, leaving nothing out.

We celebrate Christ's life, death and resurrection in the mass where we see how Christ lived, preached, died and rose from the dead for us and our salvation
632 posted on 08/09/2010 7:20:04 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Quix
"It sometimes appears that the following verse is too little appreciated or too little understood.

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Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

NEITHER IN THIS WORLD NOR IN THE WORLD TO COME.

633 posted on 08/09/2010 7:23:20 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Cronos

Ever been to an orthodox Lutheran service?


634 posted on 08/09/2010 7:23:31 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: bronx2

Jesus died, once for all. He conquered sin and death and it no longer has any power over Him.

Our sin cannot corrupt heaven and bring it down by causing Him to suffer any longer.

Anyone who thinks that obviously doesn’t really understand what *It is finished* means.


635 posted on 08/09/2010 7:25:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix
When you want to experience the fullness of Christ and to experience a personal relationship with Christ, come to mass and experience Christ during the Eucharist.

You can still reject the cult of Sister Aimee and come to the fullness of Christ in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
636 posted on 08/09/2010 7:25:46 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Pardon me for not adding this in my reply to a member of the Calvinist bunch. I’ve said it before and will repeat it — Traditional, orthodoxy Lutheran services retain orthdoxy and orthodox teaching and I consider them brothers in Christ. They do not have the crazy Calvinist leanings.


637 posted on 08/09/2010 7:28:14 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Cronos; roamer_1
If you check this link to one example you will see that for Sunday, June 20th, 2010 (the only worship bulletin on the site), they only read Old Covenant Reading: Zechariah 8:1-23, New Covenant Reading: Ephesians 4:17-32

Why exactly is it just excerpts? I guess the OPC thinking is why have all the nasty stuff like the letter of James or the Gospels or the OT.

In contrast, you can come to Christ's One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and read the entire Bible, in the fullness of Christ

Every Sunday? How do they manage that in 45 - 50 minutes?

Or are you criticizing the OPC for not reading the entire Bible every Sunday during worship service?

Does the Catholic church also not read only excerpts each Sunday?

638 posted on 08/09/2010 7:28:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Verse six lays to rest the contention that eating the Eucharist does anything spiritually.

Just like Matt 16:18 establishes Peter as the rock on which Christ builds his Church.

639 posted on 08/09/2010 7:32:32 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Iscool

What part of you faith-system justifies being disrespectful to others or mocking them?


640 posted on 08/09/2010 7:37:22 AM PDT by TheStickman
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