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Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
TheSacredPage.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Michael Barber

Posted on 08/07/2010 3:38:50 PM PDT by Salvation

Friday, August 06, 2010

Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism

The magazine Religion Dispatches has a new piece up by Jonathan Fitzgerald, entitled, "Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism: Under the radar of most observers a trend is emerging of evangelicals converting to Catholicism."


As he points out, there are an increasing number Evangelicals coming into the Catholic Church. In fact, while my wife and I were at Fuller we witnessed this phenomenon firsthand. Indeed, students would come up and ask us if they could follow us to daily Mass (which was celebrated at a Catholic Church down the street). I went to Mass with many fellow students who had never experienced a Eucharistic liturgy. . . and, for many of them, once they started attending they couldn't stop.

Here's the story as Fitzgerald reports it:
In the fall of 1999, I was a freshman at Gordon College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Massachusetts. There, fifteen years earlier, a professor named Thomas Howard resigned from the English department when he felt his beliefs were no longer in line with the college’s statement of faith. Despite all those intervening years, during my time at Gordon the specter of Thomas Howard loomed large on campus. The story of his resignation captured my imagination; it came about, ultimately, because he converted to Roman Catholicism.

Though his reasons for converting were unclear and perhaps unimaginable to me at the time (they are actually well-documented in his book Evangelical is Not Enough which, back then, I had not yet read), his reasons seemed less important than the knowledge that it could happen. I had never heard of such a thing. . .

. . . [M]y parents never spoke ill of the Catholic Church; though the pastors and congregants of our non-denominational, charismatic church-that-met-in-a-warehouse, often did. Despite my firsthand experience with the Church, between the legend of my parents’ conversion (anything that happens in a child’s life before he is born is the stuff of legends) and the portrait of the Catholic Church as an oppressive institution that took all the fun out of being “saved,” I understood Catholicism as a religion that a person leaves when she becomes serious about her faith.

And yet, Thomas Howard is only the tip of the iceberg of a hastening trend of evangelicals converting to Catholicism. North Park University professor of religious studies Scot McKnight documented some of the reasons behind this trend in his important 2002 essay entitled “From Wheaton to Rome: Why Evangelicals become Roman Catholic.” The essay was originally published in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and was later included in a collection of conversion stories he co-edited with Hauna Ondrey entitled Finding Faith, Losing Faith: Stories of Conversion and Apostasy.

Thomas Howard comes in at number five on McKnight’s list of significant conversions, behind former Presbyterian pastor and author of Rome Sweet Home, Scott Hahn, and Marcus Grodi founder of The Coming Home Network International, an organization that provides “fellowship, encouragement and support for Protestant pastors and laymen who are somewhere along the journey or have already been received into the Catholic Church,” according to their Web site. Other featured converts include singer-songwriter John Michael Talbot and Patrick Madrid, editor of the Surprised by Truth books, which showcase conversion stories.

Would Saint Augustine Go to a Southern Baptist Church in Houston?

McKnight first identified these converts eight years ago, and the trend has continued to grow in the intervening years. It shows up in a variety of places, in the musings of the late Michael Spencer (the “Internet Monk”) about his wife’s conversion and his decision not to follow, as well as at the Evangelical Theological Society where the former President and Baylor University professor Francis J. Beckwith made a well-documented “return to Rome.” Additionally, the conversion trend is once again picking up steam as the Millennial generation, the first to be born and raised in the contemporary brand of evangelicalism, comes of age. Though perhaps an unlikely setting, The King’s College, an evangelical Christian college in New York City, provides an excellent case study for the way this phenomenon is manifesting itself among young evangelicals.

The King’s College campus is comprised of two floors in the Empire State Building and some office space in a neighboring building on Fifth Avenue. The approximately 300 students who attend King’s are thoughtful, considerate and serious. They are also intellectually curious. This combination of traits, it turns out, makes the college a ripe breeding ground for interest in Roman Catholicism. Among the traits of the Catholic Church that attract TKC students—and indeed many young evangelicals at large—are its history, emphasis on liturgy, and tradition of intellectualism.

Lucas Croslow was one such student to whom these and other attributes of Catholicism appealed. This past spring, graduating from The King’s College was not the only major change in Croslow’s life, he was also confirmed into the Catholic Church.

Croslow’s interest in Catholicism began over six years ago when he was a sophomore in high school. At the time, Croslow’s Midwestern evangelical church experienced a crisis that is all too common among evangelical churches: what he describes as “a crisis of spiritual authority.” As a result of experiencing disappointment in his pastor, Croslow began to question everything he had learned from him. This questioning led him to study the historical origins of scripture and then of the Christian church itself. Eventually he concluded that Catholicism in its current form is the closest iteration of the early church fathers’ intentions. He asks, “If Saint Augustine showed up today, could we seriously think that he’d attend a Southern Baptist church in Houston?” The answer, to Croslow, is a resounding “No.”
 
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You can read the rest here.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiclist; converts; evangelical; freformed
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To: AnneM62
"He told me that the Gospels were for the Jews only and didn't apply to Christians. (ultra or hyper dispensationalism, I believe) I asked him about the prayer that Our Lord taught us. He grinned and shook his head NO, NO, NO...not a Christian prayer. Oddly enough though, I did convince him of works. Go figu" --> The problem, in my humble opinion, is when one tries to take bits and pieces instead of the whole

This is why you see in Protestantism, only say preaching or only singing. This is unlike at mass where we have preaching, singing, the offering, etc. where we read from the OT, Gospels, psalms, epistles etc.

God is not limited as those outside The Church seem to think, but is unlimited
541 posted on 08/08/2010 10:01:26 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: narses
Well there ya go, straight from the Chair of the Apostle today, Pope roamer_1 has spoken!

*chuckles*...

Surely you can't confuse me with some usurped chair in Rome, like the one the statue of Jupiter currently sits in...

Why, I haven't even had my foot replaced *once*! Wait... Let me check... Nope! no groveling Romanists slobbering on my toes...

542 posted on 08/08/2010 10:01:53 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: RnMomof7
Yes -- that is why we come to worship Christ in fullness in His Church, the One Catholic and Apostolic CHurch. hallelujah

We are not like the Ewangelicals who chop and change and move things about and run from pastor to paster.
543 posted on 08/08/2010 10:05:20 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Quix; narses
[Quix:] This thread documents what REAL CHURCH is like:...

[narses:]Snake handling firewalkers, ROTFLMAO!

I don't think he knows Whom he is scoffing at...

544 posted on 08/08/2010 10:07:32 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

Snort - but I do, have you a mirror? Or other ‘magic’ devices?

Hail Bopp!


545 posted on 08/08/2010 10:09:29 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: AnneM62
And, you will find this if you look in any OrthodoxPresbyterian order of Service -- If you check link to one example you will see that for Sunday, June 20th, 2010 (the only worship bulletin on the site), they only read Old Covenant Reading: Zechariah 8:1-23, New Covenant Reading: Ephesians 4:17-32



You probably know that Luther removed a few books from the Bible and added the word “alone” to fide. But the sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-denominations since then have gone much further.

You now have the OrthodoxPresbyterianC (hardly Orthodox, maybe Presbyterian and definitely not a church) which just excerpts (why have all the nasty stuff like the letter of James or the Gospels or the OT).
546 posted on 08/08/2010 10:10:10 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: TheStickman
Titus 1:1-9

What exactly do you intend this passage to say?

547 posted on 08/08/2010 10:10:19 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

“Surely you can’t confuse me with some usurped chair in Rome, like the one the statue of Jupiter currently sits in...”

And yet you claim ultimate knowledge, infallible truth.

Hail Bopp!


548 posted on 08/08/2010 10:11:32 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: presently no screen name
all ye are brethren.

Oh... you saw that part too? Thanks for your reply.

549 posted on 08/08/2010 10:15:51 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix
Learning humility and brokenness before God and respect for HIS DOINGS can be a VERY interesting process.

TRUE. Understated, but very, very true.

550 posted on 08/08/2010 10:19:35 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: John Leland 1789; fish hawk
In this apostate age, you will see plenty of evangelical church members be lured to Roman religion as well as to cults, isms, Islam, etc.

It is to be expected... And that will add to their boastings of size and strength.

I believe Rome and Islam will even link up in the Apostasy.

That isn't a far reach. They are much the same.

551 posted on 08/08/2010 10:24:27 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: presently no screen name; NYer; Iscool; narses

Oh, but we were telling YOU and Iscool. Of course, as I said whatever you and Iscool’s various non-Christian groups want to do, go ahead, it’s a free country. When you want to experience the fullness of Christ and to experience a personal relationship with Christ, come to mass and experience Christ during the Eucharist. You can still reject the fire-worshippers and come to the fullness of Christ in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church


552 posted on 08/08/2010 10:26:44 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Iscool

Nah, no crackers or fire-worshipping in Christ’s One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. You can leave the fire-worshipping behind and still come and worship Christ in Christ’s Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. And, you can experience a personal relationship with Christ in the Eucharist, a personal one on one relationship


553 posted on 08/08/2010 10:29:22 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: narses
Snort - but I do, have you a mirror? Or other ‘magic’ devices? Hail Bopp!

Nope. Just the power of the cleansing Blood of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Good Book... That's all that is necessary.

554 posted on 08/08/2010 10:29:38 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: the invisib1e hand

True, cliches are irritating.


555 posted on 08/08/2010 10:30:10 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Iscool

to iscool —> Experience it yourself when you leave behind the magicians and the fireworshipping and come to experience the fullness of Christ in Christ’s One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. Have a personal relationship with Christ in the Eucharist.


556 posted on 08/08/2010 10:32:36 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: narses
And yet you claim ultimate knowledge, infallible truth.

I claimed no such thing - That would be on your side of the fence.

557 posted on 08/08/2010 10:32:45 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: RnMomof7; Salvation; the_conscience; smvoice; Quix; Gamecock; jboot; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
Nah, you can come to the Catholic Church in your home town, you don't have to travel in the past and over distances to Republican Rome. you can still come to Christ and worship Christ in fullness in His Church, the One Catholic and Apostolic CHurch. hallelujah!

No need to blindly follow pasters and leave them to jump to different pasters.
558 posted on 08/08/2010 10:34:19 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Iscool; NYer
HaHaHa...Sure...Forget about Jesus...

no, no, the fireworshipping group you leave behind does that. In Christ's Church, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church at mass we worship Christ in fullness! And we have a personal relationship with Him in the Eucharist! Come, come to Christ
559 posted on 08/08/2010 10:35:41 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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To: Cronos

Give it up, cronos - you are in this alone. Enjoy your deception.


560 posted on 08/08/2010 10:35:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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