Posted on 07/21/2010 8:57:19 AM PDT by T Minus Four
"Millions of ordinances are performed in the temples each year in behalf of our deceased loved ones. May we continue to be faithful in performing such ordinances for those who are unable to do so for themselves. I love the words of President Joseph F. Smith as he spoke of temple service and of the spirit world beyond mortality. Said he, 'Through our efforts in their behalf their chains of bondage will fall from them, and the darkness surrounding them will clear away, that light may shine upon them and they shall hear in the spirit world of the work that has been done for them by their [people] here, and will rejoice with you in your performance of these duties' (Joseph F. Smith, in Conference Report, Oct. 1916, 6).
"Brothers and sisters, the church continues to grow, as it has since being organized over 179 years ago. It is changing the lives of more and more people every year and is spreading far and wide over the earth as our missionary force seeks out those who are looking for the truths which are found in the gospel of Jesus Christ. We call upon all members of the church to befriend the new converts, to reach out to them, to surround them with love, and to help them feel at home."
Thomas S. Monson, "Welcome to Conference," Ensign, Nov. 2009, 4-6
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Joey Smith didnt think that far ahead...
But as a conman he didnt have to...
Once he claimed he knew when Jesus was going to return...
he conveniently place the date after he himself would be dead...
If you were 30, and living in 1835, would you expect to be alive at 90 ???
So when Joey Smith “prophecied” that Jesus was going to return in 56 years, and the world would be destroyed, he did not expect to be still around to receive the anger and disappointment of his listeners..
Joseph Smith said on February 14, 1835, “. . . go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the lord, which was nigh even fifty-six years should wind up the scene” (History of the Church, Vol. 2, p. 182).
“On the 14th of Feb. 1835, Joseph Smith uaid [said] that God had revealed to him that the coming of Christ would be within 56 years, which added to 1835 shows that before 1891 and the 14th of Feb. the Savior of the world would make his appearance again upon the earth and the winding up scene take place” (Journal of Oliver Boardman Huntington, Vol. 2, pp. 128,129).
Of course we now know that Joey Smith was lying and Jesus did not return in 1891 but the gullible disciples of Joey Smith thought every word he said came from the mormon god, and they believed him..
Built into the mormon tenets by very shrewed men are commandments not to question anything...
dont even think “the dear mormon leaders will do your thinking for you...”
and this is the crowd that boasts they will “save the Constitution” some time in the future..
So when the mormons are told that if they spend all day being dead dunked for long dead people real or imagined (many on the brownie point lists are MADE UP NAMES) they get warm fuzzies, but dont question why they do it...but pay 10% of their gross income for the privilege of being wet and stupid looking..
They are told that a mormon missionary will go and “preach” the mormon “gospel” to that dead person in whereever, and they will say Yes or No, but there is no explanation just HOW that quite live and healthy mormon kid is going to get down into Hell or up into the Christian Heaven to accomplish that and then “return and report”
So the dead dunkee gets wet doing this “temple work” and no answers and the bankers in the penthouse in Temple Square dont get questioned..
Thanks.
You are correct there are volumes. Volumes posted on FR to show lds is not Biblical directly from lds sources, thanks for the reminder.
I challenge this statement.
Is there a process to get selected for this surrogate work or does one just volunteer....and then pay the going rate to the temple each time or per ritual.
Because money is exchanged for the “privilege” of surrogating for departed people....this flies in the face and the finished work of Christ in their belief system as the “fee” makes the “free” gift of salvation null and void. It's no longer free...or even of Christ...this ritual shows they do not believe in the finished work of Christ as they now require money and a “work”...making Christ of no affect.
Jesus said not to make His house into a den of thieves..which is what the people money exchangers were doing in the temple area. This is no different...they are selling a intangible (there is no evidence nor proof this is accomplishing anything at all)...for profit. Further it borders on or is actuality is necromancy.
Oh?
Then I guess you could SHOW just where in the BIBLE they are found?
(Slowly backing away.........)
What's this? They get PAID?
I’m trying to think of where I had seen this picture.
OH yah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtNm9CgA6U&feature=related
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103414
Oh yeah, good analogy. “This is your brain on Mormonism”
No don’t they have to pay the temple to do this?
Yeah, Some one got a real bad fix. Obsession can really do it to you.
Is not the Bible God’s Word ??
THE BIBLE is God’s Word - but NOT the counterfeits.
Let’s not go back and forth - you trying to persuade me there are no counterfeits nor ask me what I consider a counterfeit.
As the Bible says - TEST EVERYTHING. That means you, too. You need to test for yourself.
I don’t know. Can anybody who has been batized for the dead in an LDS temple enlighten us? Do you pay or get paid?
Can anybody who has been batized for the dead in an LDS temple enlighten us? Do you pay or get paid?
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No, all temple work is volunteer (even the workers) and at your own expense (travel, clothing etc).
Baptisms for the dead are usually done by teenagers and often done as ‘field trips’. 1 person will go in and be baptized repeatedly (10 -20 times in rather rapid succession) on behalf of the names that are read or appear on a screen.
Endowments are most common and done by individual adult members who have already gone through for themselves.
Sealings (marriages) are usually done by married couples but do not have to be.
It is basically an assemby line operation.
Be nice if you did not ping me I am not interested in your grudges!
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