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Daily Gems: Chains of bondage will fall [LDS open]
Mormon Times ^ | 21 July 2010 | Thomas S. Monson

Posted on 07/21/2010 8:57:19 AM PDT by T Minus Four

"Millions of ordinances are performed in the temples each year in behalf of our deceased loved ones. May we continue to be faithful in performing such ordinances for those who are unable to do so for themselves. I love the words of President Joseph F. Smith as he spoke of temple service and of the spirit world beyond mortality. Said he, 'Through our efforts in their behalf their chains of bondage will fall from them, and the darkness surrounding them will clear away, that light may shine upon them and they shall hear in the spirit world of the work that has been done for them by their [people] here, and will rejoice with you in your performance of these duties' (Joseph F. Smith, in Conference Report, Oct. 1916, 6).

"Brothers and sisters, the church continues to grow, as it has since being organized over 179 years ago. It is changing the lives of more and more people every year and is spreading far and wide over the earth as our missionary force seeks out those who are looking for the truths which are found in the gospel of Jesus Christ. We call upon all members of the church to befriend the new converts, to reach out to them, to surround them with love, and to help them feel at home."

Thomas S. Monson, "Welcome to Conference," Ensign, Nov. 2009, 4-6


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: achievinggodhood; angels; baptismforthedead; beck; cult; falsetemples; ghosts; glennbeck; inmam; inman; iseedeadpeople; lds; mormon; religion; utah
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Yes The phantom Public don't need to read. The Elite will tell them what to think.

Sorry

Could not find anybody named ‘phantom public’

61 posted on 07/22/2010 12:03:45 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: caww

Joey Smith didnt think that far ahead...

But as a conman he didnt have to...

Once he claimed he knew when Jesus was going to return...

he conveniently place the date after he himself would be dead...

If you were 30, and living in 1835, would you expect to be alive at 90 ???

So when Joey Smith “prophecied” that Jesus was going to return in 56 years, and the world would be destroyed, he did not expect to be still around to receive the anger and disappointment of his listeners..

Joseph Smith said on February 14, 1835, “. . . go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the lord, which was nigh even fifty-six years should wind up the scene” (History of the Church, Vol. 2, p. 182).

“On the 14th of Feb. 1835, Joseph Smith uaid [said] that God had revealed to him that the coming of Christ would be within 56 years, which added to 1835 shows that before 1891 and the 14th of Feb. the Savior of the world would make his appearance again upon the earth and the winding up scene take place” (Journal of Oliver Boardman Huntington, Vol. 2, pp. 128,129).

Of course we now know that Joey Smith was lying and Jesus did not return in 1891 but the gullible disciples of Joey Smith thought every word he said came from the mormon god, and they believed him..

Built into the mormon tenets by very shrewed men are commandments not to question anything...

dont even think “the dear mormon leaders will do your thinking for you...”

and this is the crowd that boasts they will “save the Constitution” some time in the future..

So when the mormons are told that if they spend all day being dead dunked for long dead people real or imagined (many on the brownie point lists are MADE UP NAMES) they get warm fuzzies, but dont question why they do it...but pay 10% of their gross income for the privilege of being wet and stupid looking..

They are told that a mormon missionary will go and “preach” the mormon “gospel” to that dead person in whereever, and they will say Yes or No, but there is no explanation just HOW that quite live and healthy mormon kid is going to get down into Hell or up into the Christian Heaven to accomplish that and then “return and report”

So the dead dunkee gets wet doing this “temple work” and no answers and the bankers in the penthouse in Temple Square dont get questioned..


62 posted on 07/22/2010 6:04:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Thanks.
You are correct there are volumes. Volumes posted on FR to show lds is not Biblical directly from lds sources, thanks for the reminder.


63 posted on 07/22/2010 6:09:58 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
Our practices are quite Biblical

If so, it's ONLY by your bible - NOT God's Word.
64 posted on 07/22/2010 6:22:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
Our practices are quite Biblical

I challenge this statement.

65 posted on 07/22/2010 6:30:13 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Ok so they just blindly do this ritual without any understanding of what they are doing, except they're doing this for the departed, do I have that right?

Is there a process to get selected for this surrogate work or does one just volunteer....and then pay the going rate to the temple each time or per ritual.

Because money is exchanged for the “privilege” of surrogating for departed people....this flies in the face and the finished work of Christ in their belief system as the “fee” makes the “free” gift of salvation null and void. It's no longer free...or even of Christ...this ritual shows they do not believe in the finished work of Christ as they now require money and a “work”...making Christ of no affect.

Jesus said not to make His house into a den of thieves..which is what the people money exchangers were doing in the temple area. This is no different...they are selling a intangible (there is no evidence nor proof this is accomplishing anything at all)...for profit. Further it borders on or is actuality is necromancy.

66 posted on 07/22/2010 6:33:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: T Minus Four

67 posted on 07/22/2010 6:46:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
Our practices are quite Biblical but I will allow you your view of Biblical right and wrong.

Oh?

Then I guess you could SHOW just where in the BIBLE they are found?

68 posted on 07/22/2010 6:50:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
I don’t do scripture study online. Volumes are available on the subject.

(Slowly backing away.........)

69 posted on 07/22/2010 6:50:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: caww
Because money is exchanged for the “privilege” of surrogating for departed people....

What's this? They get PAID?

70 posted on 07/22/2010 7:13:06 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Elsie

I’m trying to think of where I had seen this picture.

OH yah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtNm9CgA6U&feature=related

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103414


71 posted on 07/22/2010 7:13:22 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

Oh yeah, good analogy. “This is your brain on Mormonism”


72 posted on 07/22/2010 7:16:28 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: T Minus Four

No don’t they have to pay the temple to do this?


73 posted on 07/22/2010 7:24:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: T Minus Four

Yeah, Some one got a real bad fix. Obsession can really do it to you.


74 posted on 07/22/2010 7:39:28 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: presently no screen name

Is not the Bible God’s Word ??


75 posted on 07/22/2010 7:48:19 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

THE BIBLE is God’s Word - but NOT the counterfeits.

Let’s not go back and forth - you trying to persuade me there are no counterfeits nor ask me what I consider a counterfeit.

As the Bible says - TEST EVERYTHING. That means you, too. You need to test for yourself.


76 posted on 07/22/2010 7:59:25 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: caww; All; colorcountry; reaganaut; SZonian; restornu; Saundra Duffy

I don’t know. Can anybody who has been batized for the dead in an LDS temple enlighten us? Do you pay or get paid?


77 posted on 07/22/2010 8:00:53 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: T Minus Four; caww; All; colorcountry; reaganaut; SZonian; restornu; Saundra Duffy

Can anybody who has been batized for the dead in an LDS temple enlighten us? Do you pay or get paid?

- - - - -
No, all temple work is volunteer (even the workers) and at your own expense (travel, clothing etc).

Baptisms for the dead are usually done by teenagers and often done as ‘field trips’. 1 person will go in and be baptized repeatedly (10 -20 times in rather rapid succession) on behalf of the names that are read or appear on a screen.

Endowments are most common and done by individual adult members who have already gone through for themselves.

Sealings (marriages) are usually done by married couples but do not have to be.

It is basically an assemby line operation.


78 posted on 07/22/2010 8:18:21 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; FastCoyote; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
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79 posted on 07/22/2010 8:20:50 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Be nice if you did not ping me I am not interested in your grudges!


80 posted on 07/22/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by restornu
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