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Why Does Glenn Beck Hate Jesus?
Time.com ^ | March 14, 2010 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by Colofornian

Edited on 03/23/2010 6:15:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

When Glenn Beck told listeners of his radio show on March 2 that they should "run as fast as you can" from any church that preached "social or economic justice" because those were code words for Communism and Nazism, he probably thought he was tweaking a few crunchy religious liberals who didn't listen to the show anyway. Instead he managed to outrage Christians in most mainline Protestant denominations, African-American congregations, Hispanic churches, and Catholics...


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To: Revelation 911; reaganaut
Im always amused when people say "I found Christ" Really,.....Isn't He the lucky one...what a surprise to him LOL

Well, I agree...in terms of who was lost.

Yet, there's still a dimension of "finding" the Lord...as evidenced in these two verses:

Seek the LORD while he may be found; call on him while he is near. (Isaiah 55:6)

Obviously, if He didn't manifest His presence as being near, there's no way we would find Him.

Yet the apostle Paul makes it clear that even this "finding" cannot be credited to us:

And Isaiah boldly says, "I was found by those who did not seek me; I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me." (Romans 10:20)

Hence, if God did not reveal Himself, we'd be up a creek...a rushing creek...heading rapidly for a deep abyss.

581 posted on 03/21/2010 5:53:47 PM PDT by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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Bumping the thread and changing a tag line.


582 posted on 03/21/2010 7:50:55 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Psalm 122-v6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.)
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To: ejonesie22

So, are you saying that having faith that Rome or the Holy Land exists is the same exact thing as having faith in God? Sorry, but that is apples and oranges. It’s not even that, it’s more like apples and pieces of chipped, cheap china.


583 posted on 03/21/2010 9:15:08 PM PDT by urroner
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To: reaganaut

It is not splitting hairs. If I have to DO something in order to be saved, then it is considered a work, no matter how small it is or insignificant it is.

You’re changing definitions of words in order to justify your beliefs. Typical.


584 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:47 PM PDT by urroner
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To: Graybeard58
Bumping the thread and changing a tag line.

And for the record in this thread:

I know that nothing is better for them than to rejoice, and to do good in their lives, and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor — it is the gift of God.
- Ecclesiastes 3:12-13

Freely you have received, freely give.
- the aforementioned Jesus Christ, Matthew 10:8b; NKJV

These maxims are consistent in Scripture. God invented freedom. God opposes "progressive" socialism.

585 posted on 03/21/2010 9:23:07 PM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: colorcountry

No, you are right, we can’t probably do all the work for the dead before I die, but the work for the dead will continue even during the millennium. Of course, if you really knew as much about the Mormon Church as you seem to profess you do, then you would have known that.

You need to do the math. Suppose that there were only 20 billion people who were/are descendants of Adam and Eve. I’m shooting a little high here, but that’s to make a point. Suppose during the millennium, that was work done for one person every second. How many years would it take to do it for all of them. Give you a big hint, less than 700 years. Okay, I did the math.

Now, what was your point again?


586 posted on 03/21/2010 9:23:59 PM PDT by urroner
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To: Revelation 911

Circular logic Rev 911. In order for you to prop up your beliefs, you resort to circular logic.


587 posted on 03/21/2010 9:25:24 PM PDT by urroner
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To: svcw

You call it “splitting hairs”, I call it “pointing out the flaws in your arguments.”


588 posted on 03/21/2010 9:27:33 PM PDT by urroner
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To: reaganaut

Then it wasn’t you who found Christ if he wasn’t lost, rather it’s the other way around. According the the others on this thread, nobody, except Christ, can find anybody, not even themselves, else that would be considered a work and we wouldn’t want that, now would we?


589 posted on 03/21/2010 9:30:32 PM PDT by urroner
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To: Colofornian

Are you saying that those verses say that God only reveals Himself to those who aren’t seeking Him and then in the first verse you quoted, it commands us to seek the Lord.

And you say there is no contradiction in the Bible.


590 posted on 03/21/2010 9:34:42 PM PDT by urroner
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To: urroner
I figured you would not get it or would feign such at least...

You said that the accuracy of the Bible must be taken on faith, but there is more to the Bible than that, much more. the Bible is a history as well, the people places and things do not have to be taken on faith. Indeed when it boils down to it the ONLY questions of faith in the Bible would be were these actions of God or not, was Christ more than a mere Man and such.

The BOM cannot even begin to reach that standard. If I have to take the tangible on faith, as well as what is beyond...

Well...

591 posted on 03/21/2010 10:06:58 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: reaganaut
Did I read that right?

Wow...

The desperation is palatable when one stretches that far...

592 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:45 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: urroner
Elsie, I don’t read cut and paste, especially if they are long. Just a heads up.

That's ok; for others do.

593 posted on 03/22/2010 4:03:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
Some folks avoid Scripture like Dracula avoids Holy Water!


594 posted on 03/22/2010 4:08:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
 
So if it’s grace alone, what can I do to be saved?

John 6

28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered,
"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


595 posted on 03/22/2010 4:10:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
Oh, now you are using the old ?My God can beat up your God? argument. It?s been a long time since I heard that argument, golly, I have heard it since like last Thursday.

I Samuel 4-7

THE NEXT DAY there was a great battle. The Philistines overcame the Israelites and slew thousands of them. They killed the two sons of Eli, and they took the ark of the Lord away with them into their own land.

On the day of the battle Eli, old and blind, was sitting beside the door of the Tabernacle, his heart trembling for the ark of the Lord. A man came from the army running, with his garments torn, and with earth on his head as a sign of sorrow. As the man came near the city and brought the news of the battle a great cry rose up from the people. When Eli heard the noise he said, "What does this noise mean? What has happened?"

The man came before Eli, and said "I have just come from the army. There has been a great battle. Israel has fled before the Philistines, and very many of the people have been killed. Your two sons are dead, and the ark of God has been taken by the enemy."

When the old man heard this last word, that the ark of God was taken, he fell backward from his seat and dropped dead upon the ground. And all the land mourned and wept over the loss of the ark more than over the victory of the Philistines.

The Philistines took the ark of God down to Ashdod, one of their chief cities. They set it in the temple of Dagon, their fish-headed idol. The next morning, when they came into the temple, the image of Dagon was lying upon its face before the ark of the Lord. They stood the image up again; but on the next morning, not only was Dagon fallen down before the ark, but the hands and the head of Dagon had been cut off and were lying on the floor.

Besides all this, in the city of Ashdod, where the ark had been taken, all the people began to have boils and sores. They saw in this the hand of the God of Israel, and they sent the ark to Gath, another of their cities. There, too, the people broke out with boils and sores. They sent the ark to Ekron, but the people of that city said, "We will not have the ark of God among us. Send it back to its own land, or we shall all die."

Then the rulers of the Philistines resolved to send back the ark of God into the land of Israel. They placed it upon a wagon, and before the wagon they yoked two cows. The cows had calves, but they tied the calves at home, in order to find whether the cows would go home to their calves or would take the ark away. But the cows took the road which led away from their own calves, straight up the hills toward the land of Israel, and they turned neither to the right hand nor the left.

The cows drew the ark up to the village of Beth-shemesh, where the people were reaping their wheat harvest on the hillsides. They saw the ark, and were glad. The cows stopped beside a great stone in the field. Then the men of Beth-shemesh cut up the wagon, and with it made a fire, and on the stone as an altar offered the two cows as an offering to the Lord.

But the men of Beth-shemesh opened the ark and looked into. This was contrary to God's command, for none but the priests were allowed to touch the ark. God sent a plague upon the people of that place, and many of them died, because they did not deal reverently with the ark of God. They were filled with fear and sent to the men of Kirjath- jearim, asking them to take the Ark away. They did so, and for twenty years the Ark stood in the house of a man named Abinadab in Kirjath-jearim.

They did not take the Ark back to Shiloh, for after the death of Eli the place was deserted, the Tabernacle fell into ruins, and no man lived there again.




 

 

WHICH 'god' would you want on YOUR side?

596 posted on 03/22/2010 4:17:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
Oops, meant to say “without the person attempting to explain...”

And if the person DOES 'attempt' to explain to you; do you find THOSE verses any more enlightening?

597 posted on 03/22/2010 4:19:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Why do you 'love' that snarky old coot?

He is a THORN in our flesh that is SO annoying; but we can't seem to get rid of him!

--MormonDude(King Henry II reference)

598 posted on 03/22/2010 4:23:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
Ever hear of “work for the dead?”
 
 
But...WHY?
 
Psalms 6:3-5 My soul is also sore vexed: but thou, O LORD, how long? Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake.
                        For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
 
Psalms 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
 
Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish
 
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
                                  Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
 
Isaiah 38:18-19, "For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth.
                             The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth."
 
Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;  
 
John 11:11-14 ...Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
                             Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

599 posted on 03/22/2010 4:34:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner
RnMom, if, as many of those on your side say, the Bible is easy to read and understand, why was there ever a need for the Nicene Creed?

Urroner, if, as many of those on your side say, the BoM is easy to read and understand, why was there ever a need for the Articles of Faith??

Why all the D&C's?

Why the Pearl of Great Price?

Where will it all END?

600 posted on 03/22/2010 4:36:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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