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1 posted on 03/12/2010 5:15:20 AM PST by NYer
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Benedict seems to be lurching from crisis to crisis — from the 2006 speech Benedict gave that offended Muslims and touched off violence, to his repeated clashes with the Jewish community, to his rehabilitation last year of a schismatic right-wing bishop who is also a Holocaust denier.

That's it? Those are the crises? He rebuked Islam and he lifted the ban from a penitent?

Thanks for posting this NYer, it gives an insight into the thought processes of an "Inside the beltway" writer in a Vatican context. But IMO this article is a lot of froth about nothing.

2 posted on 03/12/2010 5:19:53 AM PST by agere_contra
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well it’s not like he caused these scandals. Look at the bishops in the lands where they are taking place. And so what if he pisses off the muslims. good for him.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 5:20:40 AM PST by JustMytwocents70
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Recall then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's reflection on the Ninth Station of the Cross when asked to write these meditations by JPII.

How much filth there is in the Church, and even among those who, in the priesthood, ought to belong entirely to him! How much pride, how much self-complacency! What little respect we pay to the Sacrament of Reconciliation, where he waits for us, ready to raise us up whenever we fall!

It is well worth reflecting on the WAY OF THE CROSS AT THE COLOSSEUM - GOOD FRIDAY 2005.

On this Friday in Lent, I would encourage all Catholics to remember Pope Benedict XVI in their prayers and personal sacrifices. We know the source of this attack. Fr. Amorth has correctly assessed the situation.

4 posted on 03/12/2010 5:24:22 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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The battle occurring right now is over how history will judge Benedict’s papacy.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people insist on debating and discussing things that can't be known - at least can't be known at this time. I guess it's easier to speculate on things than to elucidate.

5 posted on 03/12/2010 5:24:22 AM PST by trad_anglican
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7 posted on 03/12/2010 5:30:50 AM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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The Pope's primary duty is to the faith and salvation of the Catholics he leads. He does not have a duty to make nice to non-Christians except insofar as it may be needed to protect Catholics and other Christians from persecution and harassment in following their faith.

As part of his primary duty, he has an obligation to vigorously act root out abusers and perverts among the clergy.

10 posted on 03/12/2010 5:56:45 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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While there has been no suggestion of wrongdoing by Benedict, the launch of an inquiry by German Catholic officials after his brother admitted he slapped children years ago is stirring Vatican fears of a major crisis for the papacy.

Is that their complaint about the Pope's brother? With the breathless lead up to that revelation, you'd have thought he'd been caught in bed with a live girl or a dead boy.

Seriously, the man was a choir director, and sometimes, in the past, that's how teachers, choir directors, Scout leaders, heck MOTHERS, got the attention of a misbehaving, or fresh-mouthed child.

I'm not minimizing the fact that there has been abuse of children or young people, by priests, brothers, nuns, or others connected to the Church, but claiming that any of it is causing a 'crisis' in Benedict XVI's papacy is ludicrous. All of the abuse mentioned took place years before he ever became Pope. In fact, it was he who sent the message to the American Bishops many years ago that they'd better start getting a grip on wayward priests, and that they should screen seminarians much more closely for homosexual tendencies. He understood, even if the American Bishops didn't want to admit it, that much of the problem was actually homosexuality and not pedophilia.

It is not surprising that there are attacks on this Pope. He is absolutely unapologetic in pronouncing what he sees as problems in the world caused by our choosing sin, instead of God's ways. He drove the left nuts long before he became Pope, because he has been outspoken for years. That's how he earned the nickname 'God's Rottweiler'. ;o)

11 posted on 03/12/2010 6:04:42 AM PST by SuziQ
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This "corporal punishment" stuff is a complete tempest in a teapot. Not long ago--and for 3,000 years before that--it was thought that young boys could not be taught without corporal punishment.

Now, we have done away with that. And, wouldn't you know? We've raised several generations of good, upstanding, moral, and emotionally mature young men!


15 posted on 03/12/2010 6:56:35 AM PST by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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It is hard to say for sure, but I would not be surprised if history judges Benedict’s papacy mroe favorably than JPII’s in many ways.

I agree with the others who say he is ticking off the right people.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 7:17:48 AM PST by CTK YKC
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Oh, good Lord! What a bunch of hoohah over almost nothing.

I will tell you something, too, that I've gleaned from my experience in 30 years as a lawyer. Folks who come forward years and years after the fact to make allegations which cannot be defended against because everybody else is dead -- are NOT telling the truth. The idea that shame prevented them from coming forward might have been true in the 50s and 60s when many kids were taught that priests could do no wrong, but in the post-VCII climate of general lack of reverence towards priests, plus the open discussion of sex and molestation EVERYWHERE, that excuse hasn't washed for at least a quarter century.

Some of them are mentally unstable people who imagine themselves into believing it, or are attracted by all the media attention given to accusations against the Church. Some are talked into it by lawyers. Some hate the Church and are deliberately lying to hurt her. And some are just greedy, venal persons who jump on a bandwagon in the hopes of getting some money. Years ago, the law firm I worked for represented MARTA, the Atlanta bus company. The company staged a "sting" -- they set up an apparent bus wreck on Peachtree Street with an unoccupied bus -- police, wrecker, car crossways in front of it. It made the papers. Within two weeks they had over ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE who claimed to have been on that bus and have been injured. You can't make this stuff up.

18 posted on 03/12/2010 7:17:59 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Douay-Rhiems analysis of Matthew 16:18

“And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

“The gates of hell, &c. That is, the powers of darkness, and whatever Satan can do, either by himself or his agents. For as the Church is here likened to a house, or fortress, the gates of which, i.e. the whole strength, and all the efforts it can make, will never be able to prevail over the city or Church of Christ. By this promise we are fully assured, that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall at any time prevail over the Church of Christ. (Challoner)”


22 posted on 03/12/2010 7:42:32 AM PST by francky (Pro Life!)
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The battle occurring right now is over how history will judge Benedict’s papacy.

The battle occurring right now is between the forces of light and the forces of darkness.

And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell....

25 posted on 03/12/2010 10:49:44 AM PST by Lorica
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The fact the Pope Benedict is being attacked means he is following Christ.This modern world wants to crucify and attack those who TRULY follow Christ


28 posted on 03/12/2010 12:34:26 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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Any thought of a "Papacy in Crisis," at least based on these facts, is much ado about nothing. Somebody out there is trying to create dissension and that dog doesn't hunt when the scandals aren't caused by the individual.

As many missteps and fits and starts as Benedict has had, this is going to go down as a papacy that saw quite a purge.

30 posted on 03/12/2010 3:22:20 PM PST by Desdemona
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There has not been a time when the Church was not in crisis.

This too shall pass and the Church will stand.


32 posted on 03/12/2010 5:12:06 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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That was a very panicked article, perhaps striving for attention itself. One of the first things Pope Benedict did was discipline Fr. Maciel, so the LC thing has been on his radar.

It's obvious that lots of people want to take down the Pope. Not buying into the panic will make opposing their exaggerations much easier.

34 posted on 03/13/2010 3:32:59 PM PST by Dumb_Ox
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