Did You Know About the Relics of the Three Wise Men?

cantuar.blogspot.com ^ | Sunday, January 03, 2010 | Taylor Marshall

[GonzoII]

When I was in college, I journeyed to Cologne, Germany and visited the city's glorious cathedral. I was a Protestant at the time, but I remember being amazed that people had been building this cathedral for so many centuries. It is one of the greatest Gothic churches of all time.

[Agamemnon]

Have been to mass at the Koln Cathedral also took a tour of the inside area. Wonderful History and art.

I was particularly fascinated by the pictorial account set up in the nave of the cathedral which detailed the post- WWII restoration of the damaged cathedral.

[Erasmus]

Well, it's not my fault that you were playing with the light switch on the grail-shaped beacon over your house again.

[silverleaf]

The Tomb of David has never been found- the tomb of David where Jews pray is symbolic, it does lie in the same house, underneath the room where local lore says the Last Supper and the Epiphany occurred

Been there, got the t-shirt

[count-your-change]

Wise men? More like agents of Satan. Not so wise.

[SoCalPol]

Not sure if I saw that.
It is so massive in size and remarable
how constructed in the early middle ages.

[vladimir998]

I would be careful with anything from Nyland. She published not only the book you mentioned, but this one as well:

Study New Testament For Lesbians, Gays, Bi, And Transgender: With Extensive Notes On Greek Word Meaning And Context

[Dr. North]

Magi = Zoroastrian.

It was they who recognized Christ, and pledged their loyalty.

[Oratam]

Thanks for the clarification. Do you know anything about the tombs of other biblical Patriarchs? I recall the tomb of Joseph (he who was sold into slavery by his brothers) was in moslem hands. There was some controversy with that one as well.

[blackpacific]

Anne Catherine Emmerich has a pretty good description of what their journey was like. When I read her account, I imagined a Spielberg movie with a John Williams score to go with it. A truly epic journey.

But that private revelation aside, the more you look at the early Christians, the more you realize that the family of God is one, that the Catholic church is the real deal, and evidence of this is indicated by where all the significant artifacts from the early Church are located.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Many of us skeptical Protestants suspect that Queen Mother Helena’s tour of the Holy Land in the early 4th Century was the original tourist scam.****

You mean when the Crusaders sacked Constantinople, and took home their loot, amongst which were three heads of John the Baptist, may have been fake! How dare you! ;-)

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Wise men? More like agents of Satan. Not so wise.***

Magoi or Sophoi! “Powerful ones” or “Wise ones.”

Dwayne Edward Spencer, in his books Word Keys which Unlock Scripture, says the Magoi were probably high ranking Jews of the dispersion still in Persia who recognized this as the time of the Messiah and came to Jerusalem looking for the Christ child.

[left that other site]

I recall the tomb of Joseph (he who was sold into slavery by his brothers) was in moslem hands. There was some controversy with that one as well. I'll say! Almost immediately after the Palestinian Authority took custody of the reputed Tomb of the Patriach Joseph in Nablus, it was trashed and burned.

[count-your-change]

The “star”, whatever it actually was, led them to Jerusalem and to thus to Herod. It was Herod that sent these wise men to Bethlehem, which seems odd that if they were high ranking Jews they would not know of the Jewish prophecies of where the Messiah was to be born.

Herodotus indicates they were the priestly class of diviners of the Medes.

They were thus attempting to locate the newborn child for Herod to murder so I stand by the description of them as agents of Satan.

[aruanan]

Try actually reading the gospel account before saying something as moronic as their being “agents of Satan.”

[aruanan]

Here, let me help you:

11And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

12And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.

So because Herod decided to use the information provided him by his own chief scribes and priests, the wise men, who worshipped the toddler Jesus and who obeyed God and didn't go back to file a report with Herod, were "agents of Satan" because they had originally asked for directions?

[Zionist Conspirator]

Adam and Eve are buried in Me`arat HaMakhpelah. I've been there.

[count-your-change]

Had they NOT been warned by God they would have returned to Herod with detailed information. The “star” led them to Jerusalem first and then to Bethlehem to find the child for Herod to murder.

They were sent off to Bethlehem by Herod and the “star” led the way. They were acting as agents of Herod and thus Satan also.

[6323cd]

This is the altarpiece of Cologne Cathedral, painted by Stefan Lochner.

It was the artwork on my Christmas cards last year. I've always had a bit of an obsession about this painting.

[count-your-change]

“Try actually reading the gospel account before saying something as moronic as their being “agents of Satan.”

Sorry if the Gospel account conflicts with your Hallmark cards and petty insults don’t change it.

[MayflowerMadam]

“The great thing about it is that they saw the birth of the Messiah.”

Jesus was probably about two years old before the wise men saw Him. The family was living in a house at the time; Jesus wasn’t in a manger. He was a “child”, not a “babe”. There may have been more than three magi, or even two; we assume three because three separate gifts were mentioned.