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Why Does God Allow Christians to Suffer?
Post Scripts ^ | 11/8/09 | One Vike

Posted on 11/08/2009 8:11:33 AM PST by OneVike

Why does God allow there to be evil in the world? Are we not all created in the image of God? Many ask, and few seem to have good answers, for the question of, "Why God didn’t just create us so that we would never have to experience pain, suffering, and sadness?" After all, He has the power to make the world free of evil, yet He chose instead to make us creatures with free will. Thus, free will was the door left open for the possibility of evil to exist. If we have the right to chose between right and wrong, there is a 50% chance that we will chose to do the wrong thing and thus suffer the consequences of our sin. But why did He not just make us all good? Why must we live with the possibility that we, and others, may chose to do something that will harm us and the world we live in. After all, is he not a loving God? Either He's not as powerful as we're led to believe, not as perfect as we're led to believe, or He's just another abusive father who enjoys watching his children suffer. What's the purpose? Why does God allow evil and suffering?

God could have made us perfect without the ability to sin, and we would have never known pain and suffering. To do so however, would have meant that we would not have free choice in whether or not we would love Him. We would be like Chatty Cathy dolls mimicking whatever it is He wanted to hear us say and forcing us to do exactly what he wanted us to do. Is that the kind of life you would wish to live? Well, obviously God did not think so, that is why He made us creatures with a free will. That free will allowed Adam and Eve to disobey of their own volition and partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They exercised the right of choice that God had given them. They could have refused to disobey God's command about the fruit, but they did not. Because they didn't, we have the sin that has been passed down. All of us, believers and non-believers alike, wrestle with the daily struggles of the "Adam and Eve" within us. Only through the power of Jesus' Holy Spirit in us can we truly have victory over the nature that was handed down to us.

As Christians, we should all know this already, but so many cannot complete the picture when they face sorrow and pain. This is why so many Christians inevitably ask the question, “Why am I suffering God? Why do my loved ones suffer?" But wait... there's more. What if on the day we accepted Christ as our Lord and Savior, we were given God's total and complete protection, so nothing bad ever happened to us again? Well, do you remember what Satan said to God about Lot?

"Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge about him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But put forth Your hand now and touch all that he has; he will surely curse You to Your face.Job 1:9-11

Can you imagine what would happen if God did put a hedge about us on every side? Would not the people of the world who do not know Christ, say:

"So what, that you love God. Anybody would love God if He protected them the way He does you. I'm not impressed. Your God doesn't offer me anything; I live in the real world."

However, what if on the other hand, those people were watching us suffer? They saw the way we dealt with the same issues of pain, suffering and disappointment as they deal with. Yet we still looked to our Father in heaven with love and gratefulness for His loving mercy that allows us to be free enough to learn and grow through our trials and tribulations. Consider the following passages, the next time you ask, why does God allow pain and suffering in a Christian's life?

There was the time when the apostles were flogged and ordered not to speak in the name of Jesus. When they were released they considered it worthy to be able to suffer for the name of Christ. Acts 5:40-42 We are told by Christ that when people persecute us and falsely say all kinds of evil against us because of Him, that we should "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven will be great.Matthew 5:11-12 James tells us that we should consider it all joy when we encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of our faith produces endurance. James 1:2-4 These and other passages like them describe rejoicing, not in spite of the suffering, but because of it. Remember what Paul says about not losing heart over the fact that our flesh is decaying with age and infirmities,

"because our trials will renew our spirit daily............for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal,2 Cor 4:16-18

This is the same man who just a few short paragraphs later described the many trials and tribulations he went through. He endured imprisonments, beatings with whips and rods, he was stoned not once but three times and left for dead. Three times he was shipwrecked, threatened by robbers, Gentiles, Jews, attacked by wild animals, bitten by a poisonous snake, left cold, hungry, thirsty, and suffered many other hardships for the gospel of Christ. 2 Cor 11:23-27 Through it all Paul ran the race well. People saw that his faith in God was persistent, consistent, and profound. And they learned to trust Paul's God, not in spite of his pain and misery, but Praise God, because of it. Paul was the greatest and most successful evangelical missionary preacher the world had ever seen. It was his suffering along with that of the other apostles that eventually changed an empire. Tertullian said that, “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church”. It is through times of struggle and hardships that we as Christians can shine the brightest and reach more of the lost, that is, if we react to our pain and suffering in the way Christ did.

Use the comfort you get from God in your suffering as training so you might comfort others. Teach those who don't know the Lord to lean on Him in their suffering by leaning on Him in yours. Show them that you love Him and trust Him and know that He'll see you through even this. Bring them to Him as your faithful, loving Father in your times of trouble. Show them who He is. Remember that we as Christians, must willingly approach our infirmities and hardships, knowing that we hold a greater prize before us after this life than this world can ever offer. That is what we have to teach the world. So ask not why you suffer, but praise God for the chance to shine and be an example as our Lord was for us.

But you may then reply that your suffering from a debilitating disease or terrible accident is not truly suffering for Christ sake. Oh, but your sufferings certainly are. Why? Because people are watching you and they are seeing how you as a Christian respond to the cruelty of this world. In your suffering, you need Him more than ever. Show them what a wonderful, comforting Lord you have. Give purpose and meaning to your suffering. Remember that the good times will never be as productive for Him as your bad times will be. Rejoice that Jesus has considered you worthy of suffering in His name. Carry your infirmity and shame with a sense of worthiness so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. For a day will come when you shall be given a crown of righteousness, and forever your pain and suffering shall be over and forgotten, as you spend eternity in the presence of the great, I Am.

I pray that those who have ears to hear will hear His voice and call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

(Should anyone desire prayer, or would like to discuss, on a personal level, your desire to learn more about salvation and what Christ has to offer. (You can email me ). All information will be kept in strict confidentiality between you me and God.)


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To: boatbums; OneVike
Under the influence of fear, we bear the Cross of Christ with patience. Under the more inspiring influence of home, we carry the Cross with a firm and valiant heart. But under the consuming power of love, we embrace the Cross with ardor.

-- St Bernard


61 posted on 11/08/2009 4:45:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Thank you for that post. I think I have gotten to the point in my life where it is the influence of my love for God in knowing His love for me that allows me to embrace the suffering he permits in my life.

I know His desire is for us to trust him and rest in the knowledge that he has an eternal purpose for all things "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose." Romans 8:28

I truly believe he wants our trust and love to come from a spirit of gratefulness and never fear. Amen!

62 posted on 11/08/2009 4:56:43 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: OneVike
"Why does God allow Christians to suffer?"

The Prophet Joseph Smith asked the Lord a similar question and Joseph received an answer from the Lord.

And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of murderers, and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the deep; if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become thine enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good.

The Son of Man hath descended below them all. Art thou greater than he?

63 posted on 11/08/2009 5:01:07 PM PST by Alan2
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To: OneVike

May I suggest that God does not “allow” or “permit”, nor “cause” suffering? Ever since the Fall, however you interpret it, Free Will and therefore Probability, rule this world. To expect God to intervene would incur the question: When does He intervene or not? On what basis? Therefore; the only sensible hypothesis is that “All is chance” (in this world). For those who accept the Bible an answer is found in the poetical Book of Ecclesiastes 9:11-12. You can pray for protection, but there is no guarantee. The true guarantee is that it will not forever be thus: Revelation 21:1-4.


64 posted on 11/08/2009 5:11:56 PM PST by pankot
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To: OneVike

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65 posted on 11/08/2009 5:44:06 PM PST by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Yahweh)
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To: ex-snook
I tend to look at it this way. God being the fullness of love needs/wants someone to love. He created mankind. By allowing mankind to exercise free will, to either choose Him or deny Him, He is assured that all who will spend eternity in His presence actually want to be there. He went through unimaginable lengths (Jesus) to ensure there would be a way for those choosing Him to be received into His presence.

I know I wouldn't want to spend eternity with a group of folks who have no love for me. Why would God?

It is impossible to force someone to love you. It is a choice to love.

66 posted on 11/08/2009 5:53:12 PM PST by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Yahweh)
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To: JesusBmyGod

I like your answer, it is very well put.

You have freepmail by the way.


67 posted on 11/08/2009 6:42:43 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

We’re HERE to grow spiritually. In the real world - the one we go to when we die - there is no evil.


68 posted on 11/08/2009 6:44:21 PM PST by GOPJ (Sad.. when a military base.. is as defenseless as a shopping mall. - Freeper:EGPWS)
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To: OneVike

[[We look at this world as if it is something great to hold onto because it is the only thing we know.]]

Yep- I think that’s it- this life is all we know, and I guess it’s natural to think ‘why does it have to be so difficult osmetiomes?”

[[I think of a child, and how they cannot fathom adulthood, so they want everything now.]]

again- spot on- I was acting pretty childish actually- just focussed on me

[[If that means we must suffer a lifetime debilitating disease until we dies unknown and unloved by this world, well then so be it.]]

That was one of hte big issues with me- knowing I’ll probably go out without making an impact, and I guess I just wondered why God woudl even create me to go through life obscure and unimportant-

[[When man realize that,]]

Well, I think I got a glimpse of it today- thanks to your post about how Job, even during his suffering, how he prayed for OTHERS insteasd of himself- made me realize how focussed on myself I’ve been for far too long now


69 posted on 11/08/2009 7:55:53 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: mlizzy

The surest, easiest, and shortest way to heaven is by martyrdom for the Faith.

One has to be in a state of grace to receive the Holy Eucharist so if one is ‘afraid of penance’ (the sacrament of Confession), one cannot worthily receive the Body and Blood of Jesus.

The salvation of souls is a surprisingly mechanical process.


70 posted on 11/08/2009 7:56:32 PM PST by bigoil
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To: bigoil
The surest, easiest, and shortest way to heaven is by martyrdom for the Faith. One has to be in a state of grace to receive the Holy Eucharist so if one is ‘afraid of penance’ (the sacrament of Confession), one cannot worthily receive the Body and Blood of Jesus. The salvation of souls is a surprisingly mechanical process.

"As explained by the Church, whatever the soul loses by venial sins can be totally restored through Holy Communion" --Fr. John A. Hardon.

Mortal sins, however, must be removed by the Sacrament of Confession to be able to receive the Most Holy Eucharist with grace. Possibly St. Pius the X was referring to those who have venial, but not mortal sins, when he said the "surest, easiest, and shortest way to heaven is by the Eucharist." There's certainly nothing easy about "martyrdom" at the onset anyway.

I am afraid of Penance myself, and although obviously the more you go, the better you feel, if I haven't mortally sinned, the Eucharist still not only provides me with grace, but eliminates my venial sins as well. Daily reception of the Eucharist just can't be beat! I go with St. Pius X on this one.
71 posted on 11/08/2009 8:23:05 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: bigoil; OneVike

The ONLY way to heaven is through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Even the Islamists believe in martyrdom, yet they trust in a false god and a false leader. You can see what they are willing to do for a “sure, easy and short” way to paradise.

You can be killed because you say you believe in Christ but only God sees the heart. Salvation is by grace through faith and not because we earn it or can in any way deserve it.


72 posted on 11/08/2009 8:29:57 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: OneVike

He tests those He loves. I just sometimes wish He didn’t love me so much.


73 posted on 11/08/2009 8:31:26 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Nachum

My answer is, what would the world be like if only evil people suffered? Can you imagine? Everyone would always be nice to everyone else.

Unsustainable.


74 posted on 11/08/2009 8:35:02 PM PST by zeebee (Ask a teenager now, while they still know everything.)
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To: RichInOC
He tests those He loves. I just sometimes wish He didn’t love me so much.

Wow, I it is a shame that you feel this way. Don't you realize that God loves ALL of us just the same? God's love for ALL humans is the same, regarless of the persons short comings or sins. We are all sinners and he loves all of us just the same.

75 posted on 11/08/2009 8:45:42 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: RichInOC
He tests those He loves. I just sometimes wish He didn’t love me so much.

Wow, I it is a shame that you feel this way. Don't you realize that God loves ALL of us just the same? God's love for ALL humans is the same, regarless of the persons short comings or sins. We are all sinners and he loves all of us just the same.

76 posted on 11/08/2009 8:45:49 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: zeebee
what would the world be like if only evil people suffered?... unsustainable.

A few thoughts on that.

It isn't that it's unsustainable, but rather it would take away our freedom of choice. If we saw there was a understandable and visable link between our actions and the result, no one would ever do evil. The creater is hidden in this way from us. We do not see a tangible revelation of the creator's will so that the choice looks the same. It is a long discussion, but the subject of freedom of choice, divine will, and our own perceptions are at work here. (IMHO)

77 posted on 11/08/2009 8:49:40 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: OneVike
Why Does God Allow Christians to Suffer?
And ALL othes are exempt?

Get real ... it's more about how you handle it (accept it, work though it, open the dialog with God etc b/c it too is part of life here on earth) ...

78 posted on 11/08/2009 8:50:58 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: mlizzy
I am afraid of Penance myself

I'm not trying to be hurtful, but what is there to be afraid of? Penance is usually saying some prayers after confession, it's not like you're going to be flogged for your sins.

All sin is sin - there is only one payment for any sin. The "wages of sin is death" - not prayers, not receiving communion (which is meant to be done in remembrance of Christ's sacrifice), not good works, not anything but DEATH. Jesus paid the price for our sins by his death in our place. Salvation is God's gift of grace (undeserved mercy).

79 posted on 11/08/2009 9:05:38 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: _Jim
I agree - everyone suffers in some degree or another. My Dad used to say “Nobody goes through life unscathed.” Some are better at hiding it than others. Our attitude does determine our altitude in that sense. Who wouldn't serve a God who promised only good things all the time - like Santa Claus? God is glorified by those who continue in their faith despite suffering and God promises to always be with us until the ends of the earth.
80 posted on 11/08/2009 9:11:40 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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