Posted on 09/07/2009 9:15:45 AM PDT by Colofornian
There is a serious threat against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It has a name. The name is Andrew Price. He belongs to an evangelistic group that goes about teaching against all other churches. This group has a website and on this website you can click on a myriad of different religions and read what this church teaches against any specific religion. The name of the online church is being withheld because this article will not be used as a forum for that church.
Several different ministers, preachers, pastors,in other words, paid clergy for that church are well taught in the foudational teachings of the other religions. These paid clergy then target members of the churches they have been taught about and lead the members of these churches away from their religions.
Andrew Price is a man who has been teaching against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He is a preacher from Great Britain. He is in his fifties, is married to a younger woman named Ruth, and talks with a heavy British accent. He targets missionaries. He somehow gets their telephone numbers and cell numbers and talks to them. He starts out very friendly; just an old man wanting to chat. Then, he introduces them to deep doctrine. He introduces one little subject at a time. While introducing this subject, he takes doctrine and quotes from prominent, historical leaders, and uses those quotes and facts to support his own twisted and distorted views of the church, in much the same way a defense attorney questions unsuspecting witnesses.
By his own confession, or braggard, he has led many missionaries and regular members away from the church through his distorted teachings. He is a tool of the Adversary. Do not engage in discussions with him. Do not be so foolish as to think that your testimony is so strong that you cannot be led away by this man. He baits you with true doctrine. Then he twists it. Then he baits you with some more, much of which everyday members are not familiar with. Curiosity causes one to research the facts with which he or she has been presented. The truth, combined with curiosity, combined with the false teachings of this man lead many unsuspecting members away from the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ. Curiosity killed the cat, and it will kill your testimony if you follow it because of things this man puts into your head. He is very much Anti-Mormon, and is continually fed information by a large following of ex-mormons, and inactive mormons who still have contacts within the church.
One of our temple reccommend questions concerns the association with people of this nature. If you wish to keep your reccomend, then do not talk to this man or any of his associates. If you wish to keep your testimony, you are advised to do the same. If your missionary son or daughter starts asking you questions about the King Follet discourse, the plurality of the Gods, the apocrypha, the first 2000 years, and old Babylonian folktales such as Lillith, then inform his or her mission president immediately that you suspect Andrew Price is communicating with your missionary in one form or another.
Andrew Price has already had legal run-ins with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In a plea for money, one of his fellow church colleagues posted a letter online describing the legal troubles that Mr. Price has already faced concerning the Church. He was ordered by Justice Beatson to stay at least 30 yards from any mormon mission office and to quit calling missionaries on their cell phones unless invited to do so. The online letter asks for donations to help Mr. Price pay back the $100,000 in legal fees the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints incurred during the legal dispute.
One of the complaints in the letter of solicitation is that members feigned friendship and let Mr. Price treat them to dinner, only to testify against him later. Another complaint is that he talked to members for hours on the phone at his own expense only to be betrayed at the trial. The fact of the matter is, that during these dinners that Mr. Price paid for, he was leading members away with his continual false doctrines. The hours pent talking on the phone were to missionaries that he was trying to lead away from the church. The members that testified against him were only telling the truth as they knew it, and defending the church as they should have.
Contrary to the court order, Mr. Price is still contacting missionaries. He brags about one missionary from Missouri that when he returns home is "going to have a very hard time with his faith". Another story that Mr. Price likes to tell is one wherein he convinced a missionary that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was not only untrue, but totally brainwashing and misleading. He then had this poor shaken missionary go to all his investigators and previous converts and tell them that he lied and that the Church was not true.
Whether Andrew Price is physically in the United States is uncertain at this time, but he is most definitely having contact of some sort with missionaries in the United States, and most recently in northwestern New Mexico.
You mean like the 60,000 Lds missionaries, the vast majority of whom target Christian and Christian background households around the world?
From the commentary...He targets missionaries. He somehow gets their telephone numbers and cell numbers and talks to them. He starts out very friendly; just an old man wanting to chat. Then, he introduces them to deep doctrine. He introduces one little subject at a time. While introducing this subject, he takes doctrine and quotes from prominent, historical leaders, and uses those quotes and facts...
Why, how terrible! He talks to "prospects" -- just like Lds missionaries do!
He "targets" people for outreach -- just like Lds missionaries do!
He starts out "very friendly" -- just like Lds missionaries do!
He introduces one little subject at a time -- just like Lds missionaries do!
He uses quotes and facts -- well, at least Lds missionaries use quotes.
From the commentary: Another complaint is that he talked to members for hours on the phone at his own expense...
You mean he's also like Lds missionaries in paying his own way for his mission to missionaries? Nah!!! Couldn't be!!!
Perfect response. Dittos.
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." - John 8:32
Every now and then they come to our door. It's easy to debunk them and I do that. Now they avoid our house when they have them circulate. Just gently debunk they're religious beliefs. They are very sincere and really believe what is false. We don't want to alienate them.
Agreed. The serious threat against the Mormon church is the truth. The real Jesus Christ, not their fabricated one.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints/aka the MORMONS is nothing but a cult. Thank God people like Mr.Price are continuing to warn people about the dangerous teachings and practices of this pseudo “christian” cult.
The whining tone of this article tells me that old slewfoot is irritated by the efficiency of the evangelist in winning over the "LDS" missionaries.
A Comparative religions page online is somehow a big plot??
Hey, if your church can’t hack it in the free market...
If the shoe fits...walk a mile in it!
Yes, good observation. Notice, too, the heavy-handedness pulled against their own missionaries:
From the commentary: One of our temple reccommend questions concerns the association with people of this nature. If you wish to keep your reccomend, then do not talk to this man or any of his associates. If you wish to keep your testimony, you are advised to do the same.
The Mormon gets over a dozen questions asked of them by a fellow "lay" person (a bishop) -- some of them intimate. If they don't tithe, etc. they get their temple recommend pulled -- and poof, temple access is lost including both rituals and even watching your sister (or fill-in-the-blank family member) get married in the temple.
This is classic cult control in full throttle. Jehovah's Witnesses do it even to a stronger degree -- practicing shunning/disassociation of ex-JWs.
to quit calling missionaries on their cell phones unless invited to do so.
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Would this be anything like telling the mormon missionaries...
to quit harrassing non-mormons by knocking on their doors unless invited to do so. ????
He is in his fifties, is married to a younger woman named Ruth,
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My first thought here was How okd is Ruth ???
This is meant as a slur...other wise why bother to mention it ???
Ruth might be one year younger or 10 years yuounger...
Joey Smith married a little girl of 14 who was young enough to be his daughter...
Several mormons married girls 30 and 40 years younger than them...
Mormons consider that a virtue and ordered by their mormon god(s)...
But suddenly its the worst thing that can be said of a man and he should not be believed because ...look ..his wife is younger...
ROFLMBO
And yet mormons/JW’s tend to be the nicest/meekest people you can ever meet. odd. Is that their target demographic?
This almost reads like satire.
A Comparative religions page online is somehow a big plot??
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Comparative religions is something that must only be practiced in the mormon temple ceremonies...
Too secret... errr... sacred for the common riff raff to discuss in the open Blogs...
Oh, curses on those Blog gods...
Scary that a court can tell someone that they can not talk to someone else on a cell phone.
All I can say is that the LDS must really scared of this guy. They threaten to remove a temple recommend which means you have been realy really bad
Yes, but "niceness" is never listed as a virtue of character or of the Spirit in the Bible. In fact, it's not even mentioned in the Bible.
Besides, if you were auditioning for godhood (the Mormons) or auditioning for paradise on earth after you die (JWs are good works measurement people), you probably be "nice," too -- at least on the outside.
Jesus had high praise for outward Pharisaical righteousness (he said unless your righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees, you would not inherit God's kingdom) -- but inwardly in referenced them as "whitewashed tombs".
Really, really bad? Not at all. Why, just miss a tithe payment-as-temple-access.
Great answer/comment. The article makes me want to find Andrew Price’s website and read through the entire thing. Do you have a link?
I believe his group is called Reformed Ministry to Mormons in the UK -- but I don't have a link. Here's a YouTube interview of him:
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