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Episcopal Priest; God Rejoices in Abortion
cmr ^ | matthew archbold

Posted on 06/24/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by NYer

Episcopalian Priest, the Rev. Nina Churchman wrote a letter to Episcopal Life Online saying that women shouldn't have to ask for forgiveness for aborting a child. In fact, Rev. Churchman then goes one step further and says God rejoices in the woman's choice to abort. Here's the text in full:

After reading the 3 June article, "Pregnancy-loss Prayers", I found the text for Rachel's Tears online and was sickened to discover that the rite for abortion is couched wholly in terms of sin and transgression. The Episcopal Church, by resolution, has long held that women have the freedom to choose an abortion. It is not considered a sin. That this new rite begins with the words, "I seek God's forgiveness..." and includes "God rejoices that you have come seeking God's merciful forgiveness..." is contrary to the resolution. Women should be able to mourn the loss of an aborted fetus without having to confess anything. God, unlike what the liturgy states, also rejoices that women facing unplanned pregnancies have the freedom to carefully choose the best option - birth, adoption or abortion - for themselves and their families. No woman makes this decision lightly or frivolously. But each needs the non-judgmental and non-coercive support of her faith community to make the best decision for her circumstances.
The wording of this liturgy focuses solely on guilt and sin instead of the grief and healing that may accompany a very difficult but appropriate decision to terminate a pregnancy. If anyone is paying attention at the General Convention, this rite should not be approved.
Firstly, the question of sin being based on resolution seems strange to me. I wonder if before that resolution passed, did Churchman believe abortion was a sin. I'd bet not. What if at some future date the Episcopal Church reinstates abortion as a sin, do some people in Heaven then have to go to Hell?

But the point the Rev. Churchman is making that God rejoices in the choice of abortion is absurd, illogical and offensive. God creates each life. Breathes a soul into each of us. For the Rev. Churchman to say that God rejoices in the destruction of a baby is awful. Truly heartbreaking stuff from an alleged follower of Christ. And further, her point that God doesn't really differentiate between giving birth to the baby or killing the baby is shocking.

We've seen and heard many folks over the years saying they're "personally opposed" to abortion but don't believe it should be illegal for everyone. To me, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But Churchman is not only taking it one step further by saying she is perfectly fine with abortion, she then says that God isn't even "personally opposed" to killing one's baby.

I fear that Rev. Churchman confuses forgiveness and understanding for acceptance of sin. Though God may not reject outright those who have had an abortion - that should never be confused with rejoicing in the sin. God rejoices in repentance.

HT Opinionated Catholic

Pic from Midwest Conservative Journal


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; ecusa; episcopal; moralabsolutes; ninachurchman; proaborts; prolife; religiousleft
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To: NYer
Hell is going to be very hot for this apostate.

Deuteronomy 19:10  That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee.

Psalms 94:21  They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood.

Psalms 106:38  And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

Proverbs 6:17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Isaiah 59:7  Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths

Joel 3:19  Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

21 posted on 06/24/2009 8:35:32 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: NYer
The Episcopal Church, by resolution, has long held that women have the freedom to choose an abortion. It is not considered a sin

HER version of the Episcopal Church also permits, I guess, to murder your 2 year old if (s)he cries too much. It's not considered a sin.... /sarc
22 posted on 06/24/2009 8:38:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Free Republic apparently had a seizure when I submitted my post! lol


23 posted on 06/24/2009 8:48:15 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: NYer

“How much lower can one sink and still proclaim to serve God?”
Can’t get any lower than this so-called “Priest/Priestess”.
As a former cradle Episcopalian, I say that the former Episcopal “Church” is hopeless.
The problem is that the Radicals and degenerates who have infiltrated and taken over the Church have siezed an organization that controls a huge amount of assets that have accumulated over the years. They will leverage these assets to use them to further try to destroy orthodox Christianity and traditional values throughout the Country and internationally as well.
This is going on in other Churches as well, incuding the Southern Baptists and Catholics. It’s an organized plan. Until people realize that they will have an extremely hard time combatting it!


24 posted on 06/24/2009 8:54:50 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: NYer
**Episcopal Priest; God Rejoices in Abortion**

I don't think so!

Has he not heard of the Commandment: Thou shalt not kill."?

25 posted on 06/24/2009 9:01:06 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer
Perhaps he needs to be remind of this:

Please Pray for the Unborn
 
 

26 posted on 06/24/2009 9:03:28 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: sionnsar

Anglican ping


27 posted on 06/24/2009 9:13:45 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: BnBlFlag

You would be right to call her a priestess despite what she calls herself. There is no such thing as a “woman priest”, just like there is no such thing as a “man priestess”. The women who call themeselves priests do so for wacked out feminist reasons, and the fact that the word “priestess” is associated with paganism. And at least for this priestess that association would be right on, paganism circa 10,000 BC.

Freegards


28 posted on 06/24/2009 10:15:08 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: NYer

Well *she* isn’t scripturally qualified to be a clergyman anywise....


29 posted on 06/24/2009 11:35:09 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: NYer

We were warned that evil would be called good one day.


30 posted on 06/24/2009 12:55:05 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: NYer
I fear that Rev. Churchman confuses forgiveness and understanding for acceptance of sin.

Unfortunately, she is not the only nominally religious person who has this problem.

31 posted on 06/24/2009 2:18:59 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Georgism is Capitalism's best, last hope)
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To: NYer
How much lower can one sink and still proclaim to serve God.

The God they serve is the God of Lies. There is one lower station: Hell.

This dame walks with the Devil.

32 posted on 06/24/2009 2:28:39 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: stop_fascism; NYer
I fear that Rev. Churchman confuses forgiveness and understanding for acceptance of sin.

"Forgiveness without demanding a change in conduct is making the grace of God an accomplice to evil." --Pastor John Hagee

33 posted on 06/24/2009 2:33:31 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: benjibrowder
I wonder how she’ll feel about that when God asks her about it on his day of judgment.

Yeah, and all the people she helped catapult into Hell as well.

34 posted on 06/24/2009 2:36:08 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: NYer

Of course, this is the spirit of anti-Christ.

The heaven/hell argument, though, is irrelevant.
It’s a straw man. Christ is the compelling factor,
not behavior.


35 posted on 06/24/2009 7:45:01 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: NYer

this woman has a rude awakening coming when she stands face to face with Jesus.


36 posted on 06/24/2009 7:46:27 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Salvation

Right on! But a more direct translation from Hebrew is “Thou shalt not MURDER.”


37 posted on 06/24/2009 7:50:54 PM PDT by efs111 (Hasta La Vista, Baby!)
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To: NYer

And they wonder why many of us are fleeing the Episcopal church.


38 posted on 06/24/2009 7:51:18 PM PDT by peggybac (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own - Obama nation is an abomination)
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To: NYer
Pinged from Terri Dailies


39 posted on 06/25/2009 5:24:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Deo volente

Any way you put it, attributing violence and murder to God comes down to blasphemy. Wouldn’t want to be her at Judgement Day.


40 posted on 06/25/2009 9:09:28 PM PDT by pankot
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