People: And with your spirit. (Et cum spiritu tuo)
Any other thoughts out there?
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Just bring back the Latin and you won’t have to worry about the official translations.
Michael K. Magee, The Liturgical Translation of the Response Et cum spiritu tuo: Communio 29 (Spring 2002) 152-171.
W.C. Van Unnik, Dominus Vobiscum: The Background of a Liturgical Formula: A.J.B. Higgins (ed.), New Testament Essays (Manchester, University Press, 1959) 270-305.
19 and 35 page articles on something as simple as “The Lord be with you,” and its response! Liturgical scholars can be very thorough. ICEL translators? Not so much.
"Καὶ τῷ πνεύματί σου".
This is usually preceeded by "Εἰρήνη πᾶσι" meaning "Peace be with you. It is also used in response to:
" Ἡ χάρις τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ ἡ ἀγάπη τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ Πατρὸς καὶ ἡ κοινωνία τοῦ Ἁγίου Πνεύματος εἴη μετὰ πάντων ὑμῶν.", "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God the Father and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with all of you."
and
"Καὶ ἔσται τὰ ἐλέη τοῦ μεγάλου Θεοῦ καὶ Σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ μετὰ πάντων ἡμῶν." "The mercy of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ be with all of us."
No way we'd say "And also with you"! Its good to see Rome requiring the American Church to toe the line.
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: If they make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.
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Also,I think “It will be shed for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven” is supposed to be changed taking out “all” and replacing it with “many” or “some”???
good. It will be nice to have beautiful language in church.
But I live in the Philippines, so our mass is in Tagalog...I’ll have to check the translation.
Here, in the Our Father, we ask for our daily food, not bread,because the main food is rice..... but in other places they do use the local word for bread in the mass.