Posted on 05/19/2009 6:36:40 PM PDT by Hilda
Common Ground? Really? The Vatican said this?
Hilda, I am just as sick about this as you are. We can say when we meet our Lord, that we have always stood up for innocent human life. Although I am a Lutheran, the conservative branch, I look to the Catholic Church to always uphold the pro-life stance when other churches have fallen into the hands of Satan and approve of abortion. I hope The Pope and all at The Vatican will reconsider what they have said about Obama.
A Psalm to help us:
Psalm 1:1-3 “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, but his delight is in the law of The Lord, and in His law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, and whatever he doeth shall prosper.”
Another for good measure:
Psalm 15:1-2 “Lord, who shall abide in Thy tabernacle? Who shall dwell in Thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.”
Peace
For? For abortion? Notre Dame or any Catholic Uni should not be a venue to promote baby killing. Pope John Paul and Lech Walensa stood up to the USSR. Lech is a true Catholic hero while Notre Dame is filled with vermin.
Has the entire Church lost its mind? The Second Vatican Council called abortion an “abominable crime”. Is it or isn’t it? How do we find common ground with someone who is the most outspoken public advocate of an “abominable crime”? Does Rome really believe some accomodation can be found with Obowma? If so, it will be solely on his terms.
Our Leadership is derilict. The Pope, the RNC, the Republicans AND Democrats in the Senate and House. They are ALL Derilict and they should be fired.
I'm a practicing Catholic and my opinion is that Pope Benedict showed a failure of leadership. The proper place for the Pope on Sunday was standing shoulder to shoulder at the alternate graduation ceremony with the Bishop of the Notre Dame Diocese.
That appearance would have forced the American Catholic hierarchy to crap or get off the pot.
Petty parochial concerns, parochial whining is what we’ve got here!
The newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, said the president also confirmed that pushing for a more liberal abortion law would not be a priority of his administration. The comments came in a L'Osservatore report May 18, the day after Obama spoke at the university in Indiana.
I doubt that CNS would get this wrong. Ping to read later.
“Common ground” when it comes to abortion is the cemetary...or the dumpster.
“...reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, facilitating adoption and supporting women who want to carry their babies to term...”
And this is revolutionary, how? If you are cancelling funding for abstinence-only education? How? You hand out condoms because it’s too embarrassing to buy them, but the people using them are responsible enough to have sex?
The phrase above has been said time and time again. Still HOW do you reduce abortions? What’s your plan? How is it going to work?
It’s just words...and the same words as always. Nothing new about it.
This is a newspaper article from a questionable source, since L’Osservatore is widely known to harbor many people within it who are actively opposed to BXVI. In addition, it was referring to Cdl Bertone, who has been a big mistake as Vatican Secy of State, IMHO. He has fumbled a number of dealings with European heads of state and I’m not entirely sure he’s on the same side with BXVI.
The only thing I’m curious about is why we haven’t seen or heard much from the Pope, not about Obama, but about anything. He was away on his trip to the Middle East until just a couple of days before the “apparition of The One,” so it’s quite possible that he was not very well informed about this or simply too tired and distracted by his trip to handle it.
The Pope did meet with Burke, and that was when Burke made some very strong statements, presumably with the approval of BXVI. So I think there’s a lot more to this story than meets the eye, and I think it’s also possible that one of the intentions of the people publishing it was to dishearten faithful Catholics. That is a typical left-wing press strategy.
There is already a ton of support for adoptions, and for women who want to carry their babies full term.
No one can credibly claim they aborted a child because the baby wouldn’t be adopted.
L’Osservatore is sort of like the New York Times of the Vatican, and has a number of hard core liberals running it and muddying the waters.
Address of His Holiness Benedict XVI to Catholic University Educators, April 17, 2008
It was reported this way: In all likelihood, Obama will have an audience with the Pope. But the fact that the Vatican was not on the itinerary released over the weekend, that steps have hardly been taken to arrange a meeting, and that a Vatican ambassador has yet to be appointed is perhaps revealing of how low down on the list of priorities the Holy See is at the White House.
Personally, I would suspect that he probably wasn't invited.
You wrote:
“I’m a practicing Catholic and my opinion is that Pope Benedict showed a failure of leadership. The proper place for the Pope on Sunday was standing shoulder to shoulder at the alternate graduation ceremony with the Bishop of the Notre Dame Diocese.”
You are completely wrong. The proper place of the pope was in his church at his altar tending to HIS first flock. That’s Rome - not Notre Dame in Indiana. He was in Israel until the 15th. Do you REALLY expect him to fly all the way to Podunk, Indiana because Notre Dame is led by a moron? If you do, then you are completely out of your mind. He’s an 82 or 83 year old man and was never much of a last second jet setter. Popes do not fly around to hotspots on the drop of a dime nor should they.
“That appearance would have forced the American Catholic hierarchy to crap or get off the pot.”
If you believe that then you’re out of touch with reality. Obama might not have been able to give his nonsensical speech, but NOTHING would have changed with OUR hierarchy. Those bishops who are orthodox and brave would have continued to be so. Those who are not, would have stayed away at all costs. It’s just that simple.
Even these rehashes of the article (which apparently has not yet appeared in English) don't say that.
Bamster sought common ground in his speech. That's simply reporting a fact. Of course you, and I, and I believe the Pope, know full well that that's all it is: a speech. Nice words, to distract from ugly policies.
Why is it everyone's flipping out over an OR article that essentially just seems to be reporting factual information, while totally ignoring what Abp. Burke and Cardinal Arinze have said on the matter?
Thanks for the warning. But it is the official house organ of the Vatican, is it not?
You've lost touch with reality. The Popes flock is the universe of Catholics and the most important place the Pope could have been on Sunday was in South Bend, Indiana. And if the Pope is not young and healthy enough to tend to his entire flock, then he should give way to somebody younger.
In case you hadn't noticed the secularists are winning and they will continue to win if the leadership of the Catholic Church continues to sit on the sidelines.
Now this is my opinion and I have no problem with you dissenting from it. I also have no problem getting nasty if that's the road you want to travel. Your choice.
What Obama actually did was to insert himself into the Catholic religion and entice left leaning Catholics to join him. That is Obamas common ground, abortion on demand and born alive babies left to die in closets under the banner of "choice". There is no damn common ground with a man like that.
**But it is the official house organ of the Vatican, is it not? **
I always thought Zenit was.
http://www.zenit.org/index.php?l=english
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