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Is there no one single Catholic bishop in the US willing to stand up for the truth?
The Priestly Pugilist ^ | 1/26/2009 | Priestly Pugilist

Posted on 01/26/2009 9:27:37 AM PST by Balt

Goodness! We haven't even buried Msgr. Bill Smith yet, and the politicos are making contraception an issue again after all these years.

Remember how, during the previous administration, liberals were popping veins because America was "out of step" with the rest of the world? Remember how Mr. Obama was going to talk to everyone who didn't like us, magically making them all like us again because he talked to them? Well, there could be no clearer illustration of America being out of touch with the rest of the world than a comparison of the following two stories. The first is from CNN:

Even before one reaches the front door of Canon's headquarters in Tokyo, one can sense the virtual stampede of employees pouring out of the building exactly at 5:30 p.m. Japan's birth rate of 1.34 is below the level needed to maintain the country's population. In a country where 12-hour workdays are common, the electronics giant has taken to letting its employees leave early twice a week for a rather unusual reason: to encourage them to have more babies. "Canon has a very strong birth planning program," says the company's spokesman Hiroshi Yoshinaga. "Sending workers home early to be with their families is a part of it."

Japan in the midst of an unprecedented recession, so corporations are being asked to work toward fixing another major problem: the country's low birthrate. At 1.34, the birthrate is well below the 2.0 needed to maintain Japan's population, according to the country's Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare. Keidanren, Japan's largest business group, with 1,300 major international corporations as members, has issued a plea to its members to let workers go home early to spend time with their families and help Japan with its pressing social problem.

In the last decade it was France. Now it's Japan. Everyone, it seems, knowns instinctively that, when the economy is in the tank, artificially pumping money into the economy is only a quick fix; the long-term solution is—get ready for it—babies! And lots of 'em. A bigger population means more people participating in the economy: more people manufacturing more goods and more people consuming those goods, and—hocus pocus—the economy chugs back to health like an old Chevy after a new oil change. It never fails.

Yup. Everybody knows this. Everybody but us:

[From the Drudge Report:] Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi boldly defended a move to add birth control funding to the new economic "stimulus" package, claiming "contraception will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government."

Pelosi, the mother of 5 children and 6 grandchildren, who once said, "Nothing in my life will ever, ever compare to being a mom," seemed to imply babies are somehow a burden on the treasury. The revelation came during an exchange Sunday morning on ABC's THIS WEEK.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?

PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children's health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those - one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?

PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.

Now, let me see if I understand this correctly. The economic down-turn started here in the United States, and rippled outward to the rest of the world. The rest of the world understands—and has always understood—that a static or declining population impedes economic growth; which is why, during bad economic times, countries all over the place take measures to encourage people to reproduce, whether it's a country like France offering huge tax breaks to families with four or more children, or an industrial jugernaught like Japan shortening the work day so people can go home and make woopie. But here in the US, where the new liberal administration ran on a platform of bringing us into step with the rest of the world, it is once again a case of "We're right and everyone else is wrong!"

But what's really wrong with this picture is not the economic ineptitude on the part of a liberal government that was swept into office because everyone was hoodwinked into thinking that they were better equipped to deal with the problem; it's the fact that the point-person for this nonsensical national suicide attempt is someone who pretends to be a Catholic.

Last year, we had a post about the Archbishop of San Francisco promising to have a "private conversation" with Ms. Pelosi about her public position on abortion ("Biden, Pelosi & the archbishop: and we are still waiting..."), and we wondered—tongue in cheek—how long we would have to wait for the results. We're still waiting. Not a surprise, as Archbishop Niederauer isn't exactly what one would call a courageous apostle for truth. The question now is: What will His Excellency do now that Ms. Speaker has stated a position as contradictory to the Gospel as if she had said that Jesus is not God?

In spite of the failure of priests and bishops to state it forcefully, the fact is that the Church's teacing on artificial contraception is not up for discussion. The "wiggle room" that everyone seems to think they have because of something they think Vatican II said about conscience doesn't change that, since what everyone thinks Vatican II said, it never said. If Niederauer allows this to pass without informing Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, DC, that she should not receive Holy Communion—an instruction that Wuerl has stated he would accomodate (cf. last year's post "That Pepsodent smile!")—, and Pope Benedict does nothing when Niederauer does nothing—which is probably what Niederauer will do—, then exactly how is the command of Christ to "confirm the faith" of the faithful being fulfilled?

Sometimes I wish I lived in Vietnam, where the government confiscates churches, imprisons priests and shoots lay people when they protest it. At least there you know who the enemy is. Here, Catholic lay people ascend to high public office, make pendantic statements about how the Church is wrong, and our bishops repond by pledging to "work with the administration"—and even churn out a meaningless statement on immigration reform to prove it.

Tomorrow your PP is traveling to his old seed-bed, Yonkers, New York, to concelebrate the funeral services for a friend and teacher who did more to promote the moral doctrine of the Catholic Church than all the bishops this country ever had put together. Why was he never made a bishop? If you don't know that, you haven't been reading this blog.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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1 posted on 01/26/2009 9:27:37 AM PST by Balt
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That comment is uncalled for.


3 posted on 01/26/2009 9:45:42 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Balt
it's the fact that the point-person for this nonsensical national suicide attempt is someone who pretends to be a Catholic.

Pretending. Exactly. Be patient... bishops from around the world will be coming down on her for her lack of understanding of what the Church truly teaches.

4 posted on 01/26/2009 9:48:00 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Balt
Even better question:

"If any Catholic Bishop actually does rebuke Nancy Pelosi, will MSM report on it?"

5 posted on 01/26/2009 9:50:32 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: al_c
Yeah, they really turned out the pro-life/pro-family vote, didn't they? (Catholics voted for Obama)

Fix it or wear it proudly!

6 posted on 01/26/2009 9:50:40 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Balt

How, exactly, is this the Catholic Church’s fault?

Our pastor took time during yesterday’s homily to request everyone who felt the urge to fill out cards which will be forwarded to our senators and house representatives. The cards voiced our opposition to FOCA.

He also commented that under no circumstance would a Catholic hospital perform an abortion, and that we would close those hospitals instead of committing murder within their walls.


7 posted on 01/26/2009 9:52:49 AM PST by craig_eddy (Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Yeah, they really turned out the pro-life/pro-family vote, didn't they? (Catholics voted for Obama)

Yes, that much is true. But that does not mean the Church is what you made it out to be in your comment. There are a lot of Catholics ... like Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, etc ... that are cultural Catholics. They don't follow the teachings of the Church.

Again ... you're comment was out of line.

8 posted on 01/26/2009 9:53:37 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: craig_eddy; Balt

It’s not the fault of the Catholic Church, but it’s only fairly recently that the average pastor or even average bishop has been very outspoken about abortion and the conflict with the State. Confusion has reigned among Catholics as a result, and that was why both Pelosi and Biden felt that they were perfectly within their rights to challenge the bishops and the teaching of the Church, and why they were even supported by many Catholics, obviously

I think the Priestly Pugilist is right. Wuerl - or whoever is responsible for a politician who is claiming to be a Catholic and claiming that abortion or even birth control are ok with the Church - has got to publicly excommunicate that person. These people are not real Catholics because they don’t accept the teaching of the Church. But the problem is, they are using the name “Catholic,” because of the simple fact that they were baptized in the Catholic Church, to do enormous harm.

The bishops have got to take the next step and exercise their disciplinary powers.


9 posted on 01/26/2009 10:06:36 AM PST by livius
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To: craig_eddy

Because the bishops refuse to use puplic discipline to teach what it believes about life. So uninformed Catholics think it really isn’t a big deal, ‘cause they see folks who are into baby butchery just being occasionally scolded.

Public discipline is a teaching tool for bishops. But, for some reason, they decided not to use it for 40 years in the case of life issues. So now, if they do use public discipline to teach now, the question will be what the hell were they doing for 40 years on this issue. Many, in my opinion, are not humble enough to admit they really messed up.

My priest preached on foca and the post cards too. Many are going to be shocked at the tremendous amount of opposition that will be pouring into DC in a bit. But it’s going to take public discipline to really achieve what the Church should be doing as concerns baby butchery, the worst nightmare of the baby butchery crowd. And that means it’s more of a bishop thing than a parish priest thing.

Freegards


10 posted on 01/26/2009 10:09:00 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Balt
Pelosi, the mother of 5 children and 6 grandchildren ...

Once past the bizarre contention that Rep. Pelosi is the mother of her grandchildren, we can see that she succeeded excellently in passing her ideology to her children. A nice 1.25 birthrate there.

My parents have 2 children and 9 grandchildren, and many of their friends are quite jealous.

11 posted on 01/26/2009 10:24:52 AM PST by Tax-chick (I will not be silenced.)
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To: al_c
Look, if the Catholics turned out to be a D voting block, then what I said is correct.

No socially conservative person should ever vote RAT!

12 posted on 01/26/2009 10:30:04 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No ... what you said about the Catholic vote was correct. What you said about the Church is total crap.


13 posted on 01/26/2009 10:31:56 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Either drop that subject or leave the thread.


15 posted on 01/26/2009 10:44:16 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: All
Is there no one single Catholic bishop in the US willing to stand up for the truth?

Probably not and I think I answered why. To quote Jack Nickleson, "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth."

16 posted on 01/26/2009 10:59:30 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Balt
The statements by Bishops and the posts about FOCA are bolded.

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17 posted on 01/26/2009 2:12:29 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Balt
Unfortunately, what Catholics fail to admit is that so long as the Catholic Church refuses to teach Biblical inerrancy and kowtows to higher criticism and evolution, so long will these issues go unadressed.

It's absolutely pathetic how many people think these issues are unconnected.

18 posted on 01/26/2009 2:21:35 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi be`etzem hayom hazeh, hotzi' HaShem 'et-Benei Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim `al-tziv'otam.)
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To: Balt

Sorry, I noticed that there were Bishops statements in there that were not bolded. I’ve redone the list.


19 posted on 01/26/2009 2:24:57 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

See post 17


20 posted on 01/26/2009 6:33:51 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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