Pre trib, mid trib, post trib?

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[guitarplayer1953]

Where do you stand on this pre trib, mid trib or post trib and why.

[guitarplayer1953]

Lets open this up to everyone and tell what we think of the tribulation

[Grunthor]

pre trib. Why? Thessolonians 4 verses 15 through 17.

[Chaguito]

Pro-millenial

[r9etb]

I can think of about 1000 better things to discuss, beginning with a debate about toe jam. All this and similar topics does is cause dissention in the Body of Christ — and it doesn’t even matter.

[fkabuckeyesrule]

It’s above my pay-grade!!!!!

[guitarplayer1953]

From my studies it is in my opinion going to be post trib pre-wrath and that the tribulation time is only 3.5 years long which is the last half week of Daniels 70 week prophecy.

[bboop]

Toe jam, yes, I do have strong opinions about toe jam. Good discussion topic.

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

I humbly offer "you must endure to the end to be saved". Not to argue, but just to consider.

Also, Matthew's account of the "one shall be taken and one shall be left" and the disciples asking, "Where, Lord?" and the answer was "where the dead bodies are, there shall the eagles be gathered." (Don't have my Bible in front of me so that's paraphrased) That doesn't exactly sound like a good thing, to be taken "where the dead bodies are".

So, I'm post trib, I guess you'd say.

[guitarplayer1953]

You have just been given a raise, so in your humble opinion state what it is.

[Timothy]

I am a Pan-millenialist. I think that it will all pan out in the end.

[guitarplayer1953]

It does not need to cause dissension if we discuss it in an adult manner. If you do not wise to contribute then don't.

[HoosierHawk]

No biblical scholar here, but from what little I've read, I believe you are correct.

IIRC, there's a tale of two prophets called to heaven after 3.5 weeks.

[guitarplayer1953]

Great why do you think so? Did you read the end of Revelation and find out we win?

[Grizzled Bear]

Toe jam, yes, I do have strong opinions about toe jam. Good discussion topic.

So are you pro-toe jam or against toe jam? And why?

[Lee N. Field]

The Rapture happens when Jesus comes back. It won’t be a secret. It will be on the last day.

[guitarplayer1953]

If you read Revelation this is no time period of 7 years mentioned. A very good book on the subject is
THE SEVENTY WEEKS PROPHECY
An Exposition of Daniel 9
Kevin J. Conner, 1981

[LiteKeeper]

Pre-Trib - because the Bible tells me so (Thessalonians)

[guitarplayer1953]

You mean no u-turns no secret rapture he only returns once?</> sarcasm

[svcw]

I have heard convincing testimony for each of these theories but I do not kow which is correct - what I do know is you better be ready.

[Gargantua]

PRE TRIB. Because Jesus says so.

The Rapture is told of in scripture as being a reward to the faithful. How is it a reward to have to go through God's lifting of His Holy Spirit from the earth, and the putrid vlieness that will ensue as Satan 's minions are left to do as they will here with no restraint?

Also, the Rapture is followed by the wedding feast, a great and joyous celebration lasting days in Heaven as Christ is wed to His bride, the church. This is all part of the reward; a great blessing of grace received by the faithful for having had faith even before having witnessed the evidence of scripture's inerrant accuracy as displayed by the Rapture itself... hundreds of millions of people simply disappearing from the planet in an isntant.

It makes no sense for the Rapture to be foretold as an event which saves the church from the trials to come, and still have the church left here on earth as the Antichrist and Satan's demons take over.

If one believes in the unblinking, infallible Truth of God's Holy Word in the bible (there are many "Christians" who do not so believe), and more specifically, if one believes in Jesus' promises to the faithful as told in Revelation, then logic insists that the Rapture happens pre-Trib.

Though the millions saved out of the Tribulation will be difficult to count, so great will be their number, it will be far harder to be saved by faith after the beginning of the Tribulation. The bible is very clear on this. It fails to pass the smell test to believe that those who accepted Christ as Lord and Savior prior to the Tribulation would be left to suffer that, especially given that Jesus himself distinguishes (again in Revelation) between those who had faith before the Trib, and those "saved out of the Tribulation."

IMHO

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