pre trib. Why? Thessolonians 4 verses 15 through 17.
Pro-millenial
I can think of about 1000 better things to discuss, beginning with a debate about toe jam. All this and similar topics does is cause dissention in the Body of Christ — and it doesn’t even matter.
It’s above my pay-grade!!!!!
Also, Matthew's account of the "one shall be taken and one shall be left" and the disciples asking, "Where, Lord?" and the answer was "where the dead bodies are, there shall the eagles be gathered." (Don't have my Bible in front of me so that's paraphrased) That doesn't exactly sound like a good thing, to be taken "where the dead bodies are".
So, I'm post trib, I guess you'd say.
I am a Pan-millenialist. I think that it will all pan out in the end.
The Rapture happens when Jesus comes back. It won’t be a secret. It will be on the last day.
Pre-Trib - because the Bible tells me so (Thessalonians)
I have heard convincing testimony for each of these theories but I do not kow which is correct - what I do know is you better be ready.
Clearly the church will not escape the tribulation and the faithful will have to endure till the end when Jesus returns and catches His people up into the air on His way down to bring His judgment and peace.
Pre-trib because this is what the Bible teaches. More important though is are you saved by grace through faith in the risen Christ?
None of this matters if you are not “in Christ”.
Tom
Pre-trib, pre-millenial.
Several good books on the topic to walk through it, other than Scripture itself.
Footsteps of the Messiah, by Dr Arnold Fruchtenbaum, a Messianic Jew who addresses eschatology from a Jewish perspective. Very well studied.
Dwight Pentecost’s “Things to Come”.
IMHO, once one identifies the tribes and their geographical locations in Ezekiel 28, and 29, then look at present day geopolitics, it sure looks like we are in preparatory phases of placing all the players into position for the Gog-Magog invasion of northern Israel.
The North and South American continents and their nations are probably associated with Tarshish and the young lions thereof.
IMHO, we might be taken out of the picture as a gesture of God’s grace telegraphed to the rest of humanity of what happens to nations with believers who fall away from Him and fail to return to Him. I suspect we shall undergo massive earthquakes and civil war in the west just prior to the Gog-Magog invasion.
It’s interesting to note that the tribes mentioned in the Gog-Magog invasion into Israel are not Arabic. Those who protest, simply seek to confirm Gog’s intent to plunder gold and silver and the riches of Israel. Almost reads as modern day statesmanship from the western democracies.
After the Magog defeat, there is 7 years of cleaning up the battlefields, burning the weapons as fuel, and 7 months of burying the dead.
The Great Tribulation, lasting 7 years is a period of turmoil for Israel, but she is saved and regathered in faith. Her initial gathering, perhaps since 1948 has been a regathering in unbelief.
I can further understand Prophecy clearly to describe the abomination of desolation. Those words have very real meaning and should be intuitive to every believer through faith in Christ, though I suspect too many shall simply associate it with a physical building in the Temple Mount, and too easily allow the mark of the beast to be implemented without fully grasping its significance.
A remnant shall persevere, though, regardless the adversity and trevail encountered.
Pre-wrath.
None of the above.
Pan Trib.
As in "It will all pan out the way God intends it to. So, I will just trust in Him however it turns out."
Amillenial, Orthodox Preterist.
Soooo i suppose you could put me in the “post” category.
The tribulation already occurred with the sacking of Jerusalem around 70 AD.
A careful examination of the prophesy of weeks in Daniel shows a split in the weeks. There are 49 weeks of weeks from the time Jerusalem falls back to the Jews from the gentiles. That would be 17640 days from June 7, 1967. On a Jewish Biblical calendar that means Jesus returns for Judgment Day on Yom Kippur 2015. Subtracting 7 years Tribulation x 360 days in a Jewish calendar year gets us to Feasts of Trumpets 2008, or Sept 29-30, 2008, this year for Rapture.
The question is, as always, are you ready to go? I can't tell you how many people I have asked in the last few months, and they answer, well, I have a cruise planned, or my daughter is expecting a grandchild, or yada yada yada. If you were inviting people to your wedding, would you take those that really didn't want to come? There are numerous parables Jesus taught on the subject, most importantly the wise and foolish virgins. The foolish virgins were even TOLD to go where they BUY AND SELL to get more oil, and were left behind. IMHO, these are church members that aren't ready to go. There portion will be with the unbelievers. Many seem to think because they have made a profession of faith, or they belong to a denomination, it's automatic. It's about where your heart is, not that you go to church. The parables speak of SERVANTS that are unfaithful and beat the others, and Talents that were not invested. All these things are about His church, not lost people. Lost people are lost, there aren't going anyway. He is warning His church to look for His coming and long for it. Is there anything in your life you wouldn't give up for his presence?
You are not the children of darkness, but children of light. You CAN know the day no one knows. Get off the milk and on the meat.