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To: guitarplayer1953
PRE TRIB. Because Jesus says so.

The Rapture is told of in scripture as being a reward to the faithful. How is it a reward to have to go through God's lifting of His Holy Spirit from the earth, and the putrid vlieness that will ensue as Satan 's minions are left to do as they will here with no restraint?

Also, the Rapture is followed by the wedding feast, a great and joyous celebration lasting days in Heaven as Christ is wed to His bride, the church. This is all part of the reward; a great blessing of grace received by the faithful for having had faith even before having witnessed the evidence of scripture's inerrant accuracy as displayed by the Rapture itself... hundreds of millions of people simply disappearing from the planet in an isntant.

It makes no sense for the Rapture to be foretold as an event which saves the church from the trials to come, and still have the church left here on earth as the Antichrist and Satan's demons take over.

If one believes in the unblinking, infallible Truth of God's Holy Word in the bible (there are many "Christians" who do not so believe), and more specifically, if one believes in Jesus' promises to the faithful as told in Revelation, then logic insists that the Rapture happens pre-Trib.

Though the millions saved out of the Tribulation will be difficult to count, so great will be their number, it will be far harder to be saved by faith after the beginning of the Tribulation. The bible is very clear on this. It fails to pass the smell test to believe that those who accepted Christ as Lord and Savior prior to the Tribulation would be left to suffer that, especially given that Jesus himself distinguishes (again in Revelation) between those who had faith before the Trib, and those "saved out of the Tribulation."

IMHO

;-/

20 posted on 08/18/2008 8:19:39 PM PDT by Gargantua (...forget the sunscreen, bring your barbecue sauce... ;-/)
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To: Gargantua

One question are those people who are saved during the tribulation part of the bride of Christ and His body? If not why?


26 posted on 08/18/2008 8:31:26 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; ....)
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To: Gargantua
You have to also remember that Gods elect have before escaped his wrath. Noah and his family escaped the wrath of God for keeping his word and being obedient. Lot and his family escaped (most anyway) the wrath of God as well and too was given prior warning. You could also argue those from the tribe of Levi also have escaped Gods wrath by being those chosen to lead all Temple rituals and sacrifices.

With that said those who weren't his elect (many of whom might have called out to God and still be saved, yet having to endure earthly punishment) all perished despite the warnings of the ones God chose to seal away from the hour of temptation and tribulation.

I would think the raputre would be much the same, those in the Body of Chirst have been warning the unsaved for years of the fate they will endure and have been laughed at. Soon that Ark door will be sealed shut and the waters will come yet again.

70 posted on 08/18/2008 9:54:02 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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