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The Hypocrisy of Catholic Answers [Mormons taking 150.000 Catholics a year?]
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2008/05/hypocrisy-of-catholic-answers.html ^ | 10 May, 2008 | Carrie at Beggars All

Posted on 05/10/2008 9:14:50 AM PDT by Ottofire

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To: restornu

Since Mormons consider themselves Christians, why do you waste your time “converting” fellow Christians when there is a world of non-Christians to save? Do you believe Mormons are the ONLY Christians?


41 posted on 05/10/2008 11:38:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Saundra Duffy

Jesus suffered and died for me to save me from my sins.
_________________________________________________

Even the demons in Hell know that...


42 posted on 05/10/2008 11:39:14 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Domandred

Maybe you could answer my question in Post 41?


43 posted on 05/10/2008 11:43:24 AM PDT by DManA
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To: jude24
How many kids of any denomination need to be reminded Christmas isn't about presents?
This is an indictment of materialism and consumerism, not Catholicism.

Huh?

When my granddaughter asked to be able to participate at the table she was 11. She met with elders to be questioned to see if she had professed Christ and that she understood the spiritual significance of the moment and had a good theological understanding of the Lords supper.

It was not a mini virginal wedding event , where time and money was spent so they would look beautiful on that day (as God looks at the heart).

There was no party to reward HER for Christ coming to her in a special way.

We have talked to her younger sister and told her when she felt that communion would be a spiritual benefit to her to let us know.

The truth is Jude, only Catholic ( and maybe EO kids??) look at this as an event that is all about THEM.

BTW less than 1/2 of the RCs believe that communion is the actual body of Christ...that speaks much to THEIR church's preparation in their theology

44 posted on 05/10/2008 11:47:23 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Ron Jeremy

I agree. This is a numbers game.


45 posted on 05/10/2008 11:48:39 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: coon2000

This is the norm in our area.

little girls dressed as mini brides, strutting proudly in their beautiful dress, boys in their first suit..then the party.

There is something wrong with rewarding someone that is a recipient of a gift and not the giver.


46 posted on 05/10/2008 11:51:10 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Tennessee Nana
Jesus suffered and died for me to save me from my sins. _________________________________________________
Even the demons in Hell know that...

but they can not proclaim it because it was not for them.

Amen ! Salvation is not about intellectual assent, it is about a change in the heart brought about by God opening the eyes to a spiritual truth that applies to them... They were saved by the grace and mercy of God...not their own works or goodness

47 posted on 05/10/2008 11:55:36 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear
When my granddaughter asked to be able to participate at the table she was 11. She met with elders to be questioned to see if she had professed Christ and that she understood the spiritual significance of the moment and had a good theological understanding of the Lords supper.

And that was the right thing to do. My point is that the blithe materialism your neighborhood kid displayed was, in fact, no more consistent with the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist than any kid (Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox) who thinks Christmas is all about presents.

The truth is Jude, only Catholic ( and maybe EO kids??) look at this as an event that is all about THEM.

Well, there might be something there, in that only Catholicism seems to throw parties for First Communion. The tendency to lose sight of the purpose of that type of celebration, though, is universal. Kids view Christmas as all about them too.

BTW less than 1/2 of the RCs believe that communion is the actual body of Christ...that speaks much to THEIR church's preparation in their theology

Indeed it does.

48 posted on 05/10/2008 11:56:53 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ottofire
It is not hypocrisy to refer to "our Protestant brethren" and then refer to "anti-Catholics". First, not all Protestants are "anti-Catholic". Some are quite sympathetic to Catholicism in many respects, and find much common ground with Catholics on many questions of ethics and doctrine. But second, there is no contradiction even in referring to *anti-Catholic* Protestants as our brothers in Christ. There would be a contradiction if Catholics were referring to anti-Catholic atheists as "our brothers in Christ". But *anti-Catholic* does not necessarily mean *anti-Christian*, particularly when it is predicated of a Protestant by a Catholic. Catholics view Protestants as brothers in Christ, even though Catholics think Protestantism is mistaken in some very important ways. Through their Trinitarian baptism and faith in Christ, Protestants are (from the point of view of Catholics) brothers and sisters in Christ.

-A8

49 posted on 05/10/2008 11:57:26 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("I believe and profess all that the Holy Catholic Church ... proclaims to be revealed by God.")
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To: DManA
Since Mormons consider themselves Christians, why do you waste your time “converting” fellow Christians when there is a world of non-Christians to save?

You can say the same thing about all the other churches as well. LDS missionaries do serve in almost all parts, including non-Christian, of the world. Same with Catholic, Protestant, and other Christian churches.

Do you believe Mormons are the ONLY Christians?

No, nor due I believe that all Mormons are Christian. I can say the same thing without hesitation about some people I know from other faiths. Some really are Christian, some are not.

50 posted on 05/10/2008 12:19:17 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Ottofire

Never EVER believe ANY membership numbers from the LDS. They are NOT accurate - ever. They count you until your 110th birthday dead or alive. If you change physical church(s) they count you at both. Even if you leave the “churchs”you are counted in many congregations.


51 posted on 05/10/2008 12:23:19 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: jude24
Well, there might be something there, in that only Catholicism seems to throw parties for First Communion. The tendency to lose sight of the purpose of that type of celebration, though, is universal. Kids view Christmas as all about them too.

That was my point :)

52 posted on 05/10/2008 12:31:53 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Domandred

When a Catholic or Prostetant Christian joins the Morman church does he go through a Morman babtism?


53 posted on 05/10/2008 1:14:29 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Ottofire; redrock; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
Catholics are targeted by Mormons because many Catholics can be swayed easily by Mormon arguments. That’s because many Catholics don’t know their own faith.”

I can't count the number of times I've had Catholics rag on me or act all indignant because someone posted some information about the LDS Church that points to their abberant doctrines, teachings or strange practices and accuse those people of being "hateful".

RECENT EXAMPLE HERE

What these Catholics don't realize is that they too are targets of the proseletzing wing of the LDS Church and that many of those who post here are motivated to be here in order to turn Catholics and Protestants away from their own faith and lead them into "another gospel".

Mormons by nature are Missionaries and this is their Missionary Field. If you are not a Mormon, then you are, in their minds, A GENTILE. And their goal is to make you one of them.

Now that may be a very noble goal, but nevertheless it is their goal. Their intentions may seem right to them and their motives may be pure, but not every way which seems right to a man leads to life.

Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Inoculate yourselves:

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

54 posted on 05/10/2008 1:18:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Ottofire
It's pretty difficult to believe the Mormon numbers since they baptize poshumously.
55 posted on 05/10/2008 1:41:09 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I did say most. Heck, Harry Reed is Mormon. Ug! Besides, Hugh Nibley was “your father’s kind of Democrat.” Today’s Democrat is a very different beast. Today’s Democrat movers and shakers consider Old Democrats to be right-wing extremists. As Ronald Reagan said “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. They left me.” There are a lot of Democrats out there right now who feel the same way.


56 posted on 05/10/2008 1:45:26 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Ottofire

I think the site’s “CLICK HERE TO DONATE” explains it all. $$$$ 8^)


57 posted on 05/10/2008 2:38:39 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Ottofire
"In the first campaign Protestants are brethren whose opinion is consulted, in the second they are “anti-Catholics” with “slick propaganda” that must be thwarted. I have seen this conflicting attitude many times so it is worth pointing out."

What makes you think the Catholic Church considers the two groups to be synonymous??? There ARE certainly "anti-Catholic Protestants" (there are plenty of them here on this forum). There are others who are not "anti-Catholic"(evidently a small minority). No hypocrisy involved on the part of CA at all.

58 posted on 05/10/2008 2:51:14 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Ottofire
From the Catholic Answers fund drive sheet found in the article:

"Young boys may be found cast out of the LDS group. They are easy pickings."

59 posted on 05/10/2008 2:54:30 PM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: Reaganesque

Calling star Kolob....calling star Kolob.

Come in, O heavenly abode of numberless spirit children.


60 posted on 05/10/2008 4:10:17 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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