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To: Pyro7480

That would mean that G-d has died.

G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.

(Did not Christ die for your sins?)


2 posted on 03/09/2008 8:37:33 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Jesus said to them: 'Amen, amen I say to you, before Abraham was made, I am.'

"I AM." Does that not sound familiar to you?

4 posted on 03/09/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: gogogodzilla

The body died, his spirit did not.


7 posted on 03/09/2008 8:44:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: gogogodzilla
G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.

God came to Earth and showed us how to live. The penalty for sin is death. We could not pay and still be with Him. Therefore He, who is sinless, became sin and paid our debt. Then He rose from the dead to give us eternal life.

Don't believe me. Ask Him when you're before His throne. Or read His book.

8 posted on 03/09/2008 8:44:25 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Pyro7480

Clearly, liars are easy to find.


10 posted on 03/09/2008 8:51:33 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: gogogodzilla

Instead of attempting to rationalize away God, it is more fruitful to return to Him on His grounds, study Scripture and allow God to provide His Word so He may be understood by what He reveals regarding Himself.


17 posted on 03/09/2008 8:58:11 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: gogogodzilla
That would mean that G-d has died. G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d. (Did not Christ die for your sins?)

Hebrews 11:6 tell us that without faith it is impossible to please God. So allow Jesus' Holy Spirit to open your mind to who Jesus is by taking your first step in trying to know Jesus in faith. Your second step in knowing who Jesus is can then be in reasoning.

However, if you insist on taking that first step in trying to understand who Jesus is by reasoning, then will be no better off than 1 Corinthians 1:18-19. You will merely spin your wheels.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

38 posted on 03/09/2008 11:03:58 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: gogogodzilla; Eagle Eye; Diego1618; Jeremiah Jr
On this rudimentary subject, ggg, you are as well-received as the prophets of the Lord.

Prophets of Baal: 450
Prophets of the groves: 400
Elijah: 1
Fire from heaven: priceless

40 posted on 03/10/2008 2:21:13 AM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: gogogodzilla
That would mean that G-d has died. G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d. (Did not Christ die for your sins?)

Ah but King David penned in Psalms 22 what would be, even down to what that chief high Roman selected priest would have to say.

Paul explains the purpose of 'God' Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the *children* are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of *death* were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily He took not on Him the nature of angels; but He took on Him the seed of Abraham.

The one thing the devil will never be allowed to do is be born of woman in a flesh body as he, the devil received a death sentence eons ago...Hebrews 2:18 For in that He Himself hath suffered being tempted, He is able to succour them that are tempted.... The devil tempted Christ and he used the Scripture twisting it ever so lightly... so shall the children be 'tempted' as well twisting the Scripture ever so lightly.

63 posted on 03/10/2008 8:19:58 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: gogogodzilla
That would mean that G-d has died.

G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.

(Did not Christ die for your sins?)

Of course He did...that is what Scripture says.

God is all powerful and not confined to the limitations of your human logic.

Theologically, you need to take into the consideration that Jesus was fully God and also fully man...Throw that into your logic, as well.

65 posted on 03/10/2008 9:54:20 AM PDT by pby
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To: gogogodzilla

“G-d cannot die”

Says who?


71 posted on 03/10/2008 10:31:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: gogogodzilla; Pyro7480
That would mean that G-d has died.

G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.

(Did not Christ die for your sins?)


Your theology is on par with your logic. You're equivocating. In the first instance you're using "die" to refer to the cessation of physical, human life. In the second instance, you're using "die" to mean "to cease to exist". You can't use a single word with two different meanings in the same argument and have a valid conclusion. Your conclusion is invalid.

We could just as easily start out this way: If it is true that Jesus was God born in human flesh (as the Gospel of John said, "[God] tabernacled among us"), and Jesus died, then it is true that God experienced death.

Your only option is to deny that Jesus is God born in human flesh. It's not logic that prevents one from accepting the testimony of both Jesus and eyewitnesses, but simple unbelief. The next thing to do is to ask what makes disbelief worth more to someone than believing?
102 posted on 03/10/2008 7:00:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: gogogodzilla
That would mean that G-d has died. G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.

I am curious: why you did not type "God"?

113 posted on 03/10/2008 7:33:26 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: gogogodzilla

(That would mean that G-d has died.
G-d cannot die, therefore Christ cannot be G-d.
(Did not Christ die for your sins?)

God never died, but the indwelt body of the annointed one was crucified for our sins (mankind), buried and rose again the third day unto everlasting life, Christ Jesus is alive and at the right hand of the everlasting Father and from there will come again, after the seven year tribulation, to rule and reign over all the earth as Messiah, The Prophet, Prist, and King of Nations. God will deal with both Israel and the Gentile nations during the 7 year tribulation so they will know that Jesus is Christ, Messiah of Israel. You might want to read Hebrews to understand a few things you mock at this point.


207 posted on 03/12/2008 4:23:12 AM PDT by kindred (He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.)
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To: gogogodzilla

If He was not God, His death was insufficient to pay for sins.


214 posted on 03/12/2008 7:37:41 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: gogogodzilla

>>That would mean that G-d has died.<<

Who is this “G-d” guy people keep talking about?


286 posted on 03/12/2008 3:07:54 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: gogogodzilla
I am truly amazed at the Jewish people's lack of understanding that Jesus was divine. Not only do you have a empty grave....you have all but one of His apostles that died miserable, suffering deaths without compromising their faith in Christ.

You have the miracles that were performed, before and after He rose....and not a manuscript with credibility from that age exists to debunk the claims of the New Testament writers. Have you not noticed the beautiful way the New blends in and is woven into the Old Testament with such skill that no human can claim credit?

You have your own ancestors that put Christ to death, hesitantly, due to the fact that the masses were turning toward Him because He taught with authority, brought the dead to life, healed the sick, gave sight to the blind AND cast out demons.

You have all the prophesies fulfilled....and yet your main point of contention is that He can't be God because His human flesh died?? Seems pretty weak in light of every thing that went on at the time....AND NOW....

Now we have 2000 years of defining the calender year by His existence, an enduring church, ministries that bear fruit not of their own power but of miraculous turns of events. You have programs such as Teen Challenge breaking people bonds to addiction and from past turmoil (in the name of Christ) much more successfully than any other program out there....not by human deeds, but by the power of God (Jesus). Millions of lives and personalities have been transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit! You have modern day demonic possession being destroyed through the name of Christ.

All these things and more and still the Jewish people remain stiff necked. I really am not surprised. There is a history of your ancestor killing their own prophets. Turning to idols even at the foot of columns of fire and cloud.

How long do you plan on waiting for your messiah, when clearly He gave you His Son, like Abraham was asked to give His son...but you refuse to see and believe? Luckily for the Jews the New Testament does declare even your people will come to proper understanding and belief...but until that day we will still pray for you!

In Christ,
Mike

359 posted on 03/14/2008 12:23:31 AM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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