Cardinals, Bishops, Theologians and Lay Apologists Speak-up for Marian Coredemption

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[Friar Roderic Mary]

Ave Maria!

Recent initiatives in support of the Dogmatic Declaration of Marian Coredemption are springing up like May flowers in this Month of Mary and are the fruit of many years of dialogue and theological discussion organized by the Hierarchy, the Franciscans of the Immaculate, and Vox Popoli Mariae Mediatrici. This movement is supported by a wide range of theologians and lay people, and the initiatives have five main thrusts: Hierarchical, Theological, Popular Apologetical, a Video Series on the internet, and a Lay Petition drive.

Hierarchical:

A symposium was held on May 3rd to the 7th, 2005 in Fatima, Portugal, led by five Cardinals which the Franciscans of the Immaculate helped arrange. The gathering of over fifty bishops from around the world, including five cardinals, resulted in a book written by the nine cardinals listed bellow.

Toppo	Martinez	Gagnon	Estevez	Schonborn
Varkey	Vidal	Spidlik	Trujillo

Mary, Unique Cooperator in the Redemption Why Mary should be dogmatically declared as Coredeemer Authored by: Nine Cardinals of the Church and other Major Marian Theologians. Each of the nineteen presentations are printed in the language originally given by the speakers: seven in English, four in Spanish and eight in Italian. It addresses many of the ecumenical concerns raised in the past.

This book along with a petition by over forty Cardinals and Bishops in support of the dogma was presented to Pope Benedict XVI on June 3, 2006, by... His Eminence, Telesphore Cardinal Toppo of Ranchi, India

Theological Symposia:

Here are just some of more than 60 Marian Theologians that have attended past International Coredemption Symposia in England and Fatima, Portugal, between 2000 and 2006:

Calkins	Llamas	Arellano	Manelli	Fehlner	Hnilica
Miravalle	Perotto	Hauke	Settimio Manelli	Gherardini	Biestro

These symposia resulted in the following 6 books available from Marymedatrix.com with a 7th book on the way:

2000	2001	2002	2003	2004	2005

And, the 8th International Symposium in this series is coming up in July 17-20, 2007 in Fatima, Portugal. See Video

With over 10 Cardinals, 40 Bishops and 60 major Marian Theologians, these events clearly out-weigh the 1996 Czestachowa Commission which came to a negative conclusion but had serious deficiencies and no hierarchy in attendance.

Popular Conference:

Upcoming Marian Coredemption Conference in Greenwood, Indiana, Oct 13, 2007. See Video

Hahn	Miravalle	Fehlner	Burke
Evert	de Souza	Straub

Upcoming Video Series:

Stay tuned to Air Maria for Dr. Miravalle's new Series on Coredemption in June.

Miravalle

Petition Drive:

an initiative by Dr. Mark Miravalle at Vox Popoli for a popular petition to Pope Benedict XVI. Let your voice be heard!!

You can read the letter by Mark Miravalle about how you can submit your petition to the Holy Father and how these Bishops and Cardinals have already done so. What the pope is saying about Mary

The Saints:

Mary is our Co-redemptrix with Jesus. She gave Jesus his body and suffered with him at the foot of the Cross.

Mary is the Mediatrix of all grace. She gave Jesus to us, and as our Mother she obtains for us all his graces.

Mary is our Advocate who prays to Jesus for us. It is only through the Heart of Mary that we come to the Eucharistic Heart of Jesus.

The papal definition of Mary as Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate will bring great graces to the Church.

All for Jesus through Mary.

God bless you,

M. Teresa, M.C.

Letter of Endorsement for the Papal Definition of Mary Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, Advocate , Mother Teresa of Calcutta, August 14, 1993.

Read what 20th Century Saints and Blesseds have to say about this doctrine in this Hagiography compiled by Fr. Stefano Manelli, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate.

Saints:

Gemma Galgani	Pope Pius X	Frances Xavier Cabrini	Pio of Pietrelcina	Leopold Mandic	Maximilian Mary Kolbe
Josemaria Escrivà	Edith Stein

Blesseds:

Elizabeth of the Trinity	Bartolo Longo	Luigi Orione	James Alberione	Ildephonse Cardinal Schuster

And, finally, read what many others are saying.

Mother Mary, in our troubled times may we have the grace to call you Coredeemer, Mediatrix and Advocate!

Ave Maria!

[kosta50]

does that make her divine?

Look up the word "redeem" and "redeemer" and tell me how is she a co-redeemer of our sins? She has a specific role in our redemption, and she is given the highest honor among the saints. But she is still a saint. All she can do is pray for us.

[kosta50]

Theosis/deification/divine filiation has never been defined dogmatically by the Church.

Good point.

[Campion]

With all due respect, I doubt you’ll see any dogmatic declarations coming out of Rome for the foreseeable future that could in any way adversely impact on the dialog between Rome and the Orthodox Churches. This one likely would.

How about if we just solemnly define dogma stating that the line "Through the prayers of the Mother of God, O Savior, save us!" from the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is a very good thing to say. :-)

That one line is more "Marian-ly co-redemptive" than anything in the Roman liturgy for sure, and maybe moreso than anything in Latin-Rite Catholicism taken as a whole.

[Claud]

I have to say, your #58 is very convincing.

[Romulus]

we are simply saying that Mary participates in a unique way in the redemption.

This is quite true but not, I think, in dispute. Being not a point of argument, the cost of elevating a theological observation to the status of dogma -- one that can be easily misunderstood, at that -- seems unacceptably high.

The role of all saints has ever been to orient us to Jesus: our Lady is most highly honored among the saints because by both quality and quantity she excels all others in this respect. The point of the Chaldedonian definition is to advance our understanding of Who Jesus is. How would the definition of Mary as co-redemptrix accomplish this?

[kosta50]

How about if we just solemnly define dogma stating that the line "Through the prayers of the Mother of God, O Savior, save us!" from the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is a very good thing to say

That is fully patristic and in line what Andrew Byler said in his ecellent post 58. That Orthodox prayer does not in any way confuse or suggest that she is a co-Redemptrix.

[Friar Roderic Mary]

Ave Maria!

Just wanted to add that I agree with you Andrew to the point that God does not need us. That would be silly to say that he needs us for anything. But He does apparently want us or He never would have created us. And if He wanted us enough to create us then who are we to say that He does not want us to participate in His Salvific actions. Even the Protestants who are so big on God-alone seem to go through great efforts in passing out bibles and preaching from it. Does God need Bibles or preachers? Certainly not. He did not use any for Paul on the road to Damascus. If you follow this logic to the final conclusion then we should do absolutely nothing. But if you say we should do something (as you seem to be saying by continuing to write in this blog) then you must agree that it is a matter of drawing the line somewhere as to what things we should do and what things God should do.

Fr. Maximilian points out that according to the Bible, God DOES want us to participate in His salvific plan. If you say God does not want us to participate then the burden of proof as to why we should redraw these lines is now on you.

Ave Maria!

[Pyro7480]

I’ve noticed that several sources, and you yourself have called him “Fr. Maximilian.” Wouldn’t it be more proper to call him St. Maximilian?

[Andrew Byler]

That one line is more "Marian-ly co-redemptive" than anything in the Roman liturgy for sure, and maybe moreso than anything in Latin-Rite Catholicism taken as a whole.

Only because people do not understand what they are saying when they pray "Salve Regina" due to the translation of "Salve" as "Hail" and the various halftruths spread about concerning what "Hail" means in English.

Hail comes from the German/Norse "Heil" which means salvation, and salvation come from "salvere" in Latin, of which Salve is the imperative.

[Andrew Byler]

We are both referring to to third person pinged above, who is styling himself Fr. Maximilian.

We are not referring to the Saint.

[Andrew Byler]

Does God need Bibles or preachers? Certainly not. He did not use any for Paul on the road to Damascus.

St. Paul already had some faith though, being a faithful Jew, and he learned this from books and preachers through the habit of faith instilled at Circumcision. God gave Him the revelation of Jesus as the Christ on the road to Damascus.

"Faith comes by hearing." The ordinary channel of salvation is from preaching and the sacraments, which are human actions. So God does need us in the ordinary economy of things. But God is not bound by the ordinary economy of salvation.

[Pyro7480]

Ah, my error. :-)

[Friar Roderic Mary]

Ave Maria!

This would be true only from the most extreme God-alone mentality. Remember we are not saying she is equal to God but that she participate in the work of God as we all do when we strive to help save souls. The only question then is how much can we participate?

Ave Maria!

[Antoninus]

I have to say, your #58 is very convincing.

I agree. I especially agree with the notion that private apparitions are a bad avenue to dogma, fraught with all kinds of dangers. You may remember that the apparition of Our Lady of Lourdes was not the source of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, but she did confirm the dogma once it was defined. And unlike the "Coredemptrix" title, the notion of the Immaculate Conception can be readily found in patristics, though not universally accepted.

[xzins]

The word redeem means something:

redeem from merriam webster: 1 a : to buy back : REPURCHASE b : to get or win back

from the bible: Ephesians 1:7 in HIM we have redemption through HIS blood.

Mary didn’t redeem anything. She didn’t die on the cross. She did not shed her blood. She is not part of the God-head.

Anyone who says otherwise is out of step with historic Christianity and is seriously flirting with heresy.

[BibChr]

It is, from the perspective of the Bible, fundamentally an alien religion.

[xzins]

Where in the world do they come up with this crap???!

[Campion]

Mary didn’t redeem anything. She didn’t die on the cross. She did not shed her blood. She is not part of the God-head.

I think we all know that. That's not what this discussion is about.

[Campion]

Where in the world do they come up with this crap???!

You really don't know what you're talking about. Have you read any of the books written on the subject by Catholic theologians?

[Campion]

Answer four questions:

1. Is Jesus Christ the redeemer of the world?
2. Are all Christians called to coöperate with his redemptive act, as spelled out, for example, in the Great Commission?
3. Did Mary coöperate with Christ's redemptive act?
4. Did she do so in a special way (beyond what you or I do), specifically by giving him the physical instrument of the redemption, his human body?