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The Battle Over the Mass [Catholic Caucus]
CatholicExchange.com ^ | 2-22-07 | Dr. Robert Moynihan

Posted on 02/23/2007 8:20:35 PM PST by Salvation

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The Battle Over the Mass

February 22, 2007

Why is such a battle over the Mass occurring now, 40 years after the Second Vatican Council? Because Benedict XVI wishes to restore what has been lost.

Pope Benedict XVI, against the opposition of many, is preparing to issue a "motu proprio," or personal decision, allowing wider celebration of the old Mass. We applaud his decision and urge him to publish it quickly. The time has come for the restoration of the perennial liturgy of the Church. It has been too long since the sublimely beautiful and holy liturgy of our ancestors, and of our own youth, was abandoned for light and transient reasons.

Cardinal Jorge Medina Estevez has stated publicly that the document's publication is imminent, so it would not be surprising if the document were issued even before this issue of Inside the Vatican appears. It would be good if it were so.

According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, a "motu proprio" is "the name given to certain papal rescripts on account of the clause motu proprio ('of his own accord' or 'by his own decision') used in the document." The encyclopedia continues: "The words signify that the provisions of the rescript were decided on by the Pope personally, that is, not on the advice of the cardinals or others, but for reasons which he himself deemed sufficient... A Motu Proprio was first issued by Innocent VIII in 1484. It was always unpopular in France, where it was regarded as an infringement of Gallican liberties, for it implied that the sovereign pontiff had an immediate jurisdiction in the affairs of the French Church. The best-known recent example of a motu proprio is the instructions issued by Pius X on 22 November, 1903, for the reform of Church music."

There are those who have argued that such a papal decision will "cause confusion," will be "too abrupt." But the decision which caused our current confusion was the decision after the Second Vatican Council to change the Mass, abruptly. That decision was taken virtually overnight, without consultation with the faithful around the world. And so let the return of the old Mass be brusque, let it come quickly and decisively, as the banishment of the old Mass was quick and decisive.

 Pope Benedict has argued that the profound root of the ecclesial crisis of our time is liturgical, that the crisis of the sense of the sacred, the crisis in the sense of God's presence, which has characterized our time, is a liturgical crisis. If he acts now to restore the old liturgy, he will be coherent with everything he has been saying and writing for 50 years. A decision to delay the document, or set it entirely aside, would be out of keeping with his own expressed convictions over a lifetime of reflection.

The International Federation in support of the old Mass, Una Voce, on January 29 published an eloquent manifesto in support of the Pope. "There has been much speculation in the media in recent months about the expectation from Rome of a document that will grant greater freedom for the celebration of the traditional ([so-called] 'Tridentine') Roman rite of Mass," the document begins.

"There have been some highly critical comments from certain quarters, especially from the French and German bishops, who do not agree with the prospect of loosening the very tight restrictions imposed by most bishops around the world. It is a fact, for whatever reason, that these bishops oppose greater freedom for the celebration of the traditional Mass and have no interest in the opinions of the laity or even of many of their own priests who long to celebrate this ancient rite; a rite that has never been abolished and is still valid...

"In 1971 many leading British and international figures... presented a petition to His Holiness Pope Paul VI asking for the survival of the traditional Roman Catholic Mass on the grounds that it would be a serious loss to western culture. The then Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Heenan himself appealed to Pope Paul for the continued celebration of the traditional Mass. The full text of this appeal in 1971 was:

'If some senseless decree were to order the total or partial destruction of basilicas or cathedrals, then obviously it would be the educated — whatever their personal beliefs — who would rise up in horror to oppose such a possibility. Now the fact is that basilicas and cathedrals were built so as to celebrate a rite which, until a few months ago, constituted a living tradition. We are referring to the Roman Catholic Mass. Yet, according to the latest information in Rome, there is a plan to obliterate that Mass by the end of the current year. One of the axioms of contemporary publicity, religious as well as secular, is that modern man in general, and intellectuals in particular, have become intolerant of all forms of tradition and are anxious to suppress them and put something else in their place. But, like many other affirmations of our publicity machines, this axiom is false. Today, as in times gone by, educated people are in the vanguard where recognition of the value of tradition is concerned, and are the first to raise the alarm when it is threatened. We are not at this moment considering the religious or spiritual experience of millions of individuals. The rite in question, in its magnificent Latin text, has also inspired a host of priceless achievements in the arts — not only mystical works, but works by poets, philosophers, musicians, architects, painters and sculptors in all countries and epochs.

'Thus, it belongs to universal culture as well as to churchmen and formal Christians. In the materialistic and technocratic civilization that is increasingly threatening the life of mind and spirit in its original creative expression — the word — it seems particularly inhuman to deprive man of word-forms in one of their most grandiose manifestations. The signatories of this appeal, which is entirely ecumenical and non-political, have been drawn from every branch of modern culture in Europe and elsewhere. They wish to call to the attention of the Holy See, the appalling responsibility it would incur in the history of the human spirit were it to refuse to allow the Traditional Mass to survive, even though this survival took place side by side with other liturgical reforms.'"

The Manfesto then concludes: "We appeal to His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI in 2007 to allow the free celebration of the traditional Roman rite of Mass, the Mass of Ages, the Mass of Antiquity, on the altars of the Church."

Inside the Vatican joins its voice to this appeal



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; catholic; catholiclist; changes; liturgy; mass; motupropio; pope; traditionalmass
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To: Salvation
It used to be an honor for a fourth grader to be asked to become an altar boy.

My son just came home with the worksheets/study guide on how to be an altar server. Apparently, he was the only one in his class to volunteer for this.

61 posted on 02/24/2007 6:13:30 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: sneakers
Thanks for the update on the Bishop-approved traditional mass at St. Boniface in the Pittsburgh PA area. (Post #10).

I believe people should have the option of attending either version as they see fit.

62 posted on 02/24/2007 6:24:09 PM PST by Ciexyz (Amazing Grace the film, in theaters Feb 23rd, about abolishing slave trade in Britain.)
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To: SuziQ

I saw "shotgun" Tridentine Masses as a kid as an altar boy. However, they were done at 6:30 AM for the crowd going to work who had fasted the night before from midnight and who wanted to grab some donuts and coffee before taking the bus or trolley to work. No sermons on weekdays either. Futhermore, the noon Mass didn't exist. Nobody could fast for 12 hours and then go to Mass. So, you are right, but for what I saw as a valid reason.

Look, any priest can "hammer out" a fast Mass anytime. I have been to 16 minutes Masses on the way to work as recently as last month. I daresay Masses in al Anbar in Iraq for the Marines don't last more than 12 minutes or so.

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63 posted on 02/24/2007 7:26:49 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: Ciexyz

http://web2.airmail.net/carlsch/MaterDei/churches.htm

List of Tridentine Masses as of 2006.


64 posted on 02/24/2007 7:35:36 PM PST by Frank Sheed ("Shakespeare the Papist" by Fr. Peter Milward, S.J.)
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To: Aggie Mama

That is sad. Maybe he can talk some of his friends into it.


65 posted on 02/24/2007 10:47:28 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


66 posted on 02/25/2007 8:10:43 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: markomalley

I read your bio on your page and saw where you were stationed - I was born in '53 when my father was stationed at Scott AFB. And then he retired in '64 at Norton AFB, which is near March AFB(AKA March Field). All before your time, I'm sure, but still kinda cool...anyway, thank you for your service!


67 posted on 02/26/2007 1:52:30 AM PST by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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To: nina0113
ping

Very interesting read.

68 posted on 02/26/2007 12:45:24 PM PST by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: livius

In my parish the hand holding goes to extremes. The people form hand holding chains that cross the aisles and go front to back. It seems more appropriate to a kindergarten class than a religious service.


69 posted on 02/26/2007 12:51:46 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I call that the daisy chain. They literally turn around in the pews and turn their backs on the altar to get to someone behind them. Or the more respectful folks will stick their hands over their own shoulders and kind of lean back.

But it's not their fault because they really don't know any better. It's the pastor's fault, and sometimes even the bishop's fault.


70 posted on 02/26/2007 4:02:19 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
It's the pastor's fault, and sometimes even the bishop's fault.

We have had two pastors and five or six associate pastors since I joined the church in 2002. None of them seem to have a problem with the hand holding. We just got a new Bishop - Richard J. Garcia, formerly Auxiliary of Sacramento. I don't know if anything will change though. The culture in the Diocese of Monterey is pretty liberal.

71 posted on 02/26/2007 4:32:11 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: JoeFromSidney

You are right on Joe - We tend to complain for ourselves and overlook these poor priests that are not offered an option in most seminaries. These priests have been emasculated as a result of the "spirit of V2" and its wrong.

I submit that the Novus Ordo mass, any one of the 30,000 versions, is just the outward ceremony of the new philosophy, new religion, new ideas all rooted in modernism. Thus it has weak roots, new traditions and changes with the wind. It emulates the new Catholic church which seems also to have an identity and confidence crisis. I understand and agree this didn't happen overnight. Most experts point to the beginning of the 20th century as the introduction of modernistic thinking, however it gave birth in the 1960's during and after v2.

As the old saying goes, a little lipstick is not going to make this pig look any prettier. It goes much deeper than the cosmetic. A little nip tuck on the NO mass won't change the underlying problem which is foundational and cultural. Pope Benedict knows this better than I ever will and he knows how to fix it. I just hope and pray he has the wisdom and fortitude to complete the mission as much as he can during his pontificate.

I look forward to the turn of the Tridentine Mass along with all the culture it carries for 1500 years.


72 posted on 02/26/2007 9:10:52 PM PST by part deux
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To: steadfastconservative

I have been where you were. I started Tridentine Mass attendance almost two years ago. I was distracted since I was not watching the wonderful ceremony and was always looking down at the book. So I went home, opened the missal and read it for an hour or two trying to determine the stages so I could follow the Mass without knowing Latin and not reading either.

The Tridentine Mass has a plan of two parts of the Mass which contains 3 or 4 stages each. The plan is located in the missal. Read the missal translation and try to understand the overall concept of each stage and what is occuring. If you understand it intellectually before you walk into Church it will provide you great value. You can go well beyond the limitations of language and not be frustrated.

I started learning higher level concepts. Eventually I will just memorize the missal and be able to understand Latin.

Hope this helps.


73 posted on 02/26/2007 9:37:56 PM PST by part deux
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To: old republic

Every single Catholic should be forced to reckon with the truth in your post.

Bravo!


74 posted on 02/27/2007 9:09:54 AM PST by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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To: Salvation

Whatever the Holy Father decides is fine with me.


75 posted on 02/27/2007 9:17:48 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
If people could see what true reverence looks like, they would be attracted!

Amen.

76 posted on 02/27/2007 11:34:21 AM PST by technochick99 (www.YourDogStuff.com)
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To: part deux

I knew what was happening at each stage of the Mass and what the priest was doing, e.g. the Introit, the readings, the offertory, the Canon, etc. But not knowing the Latin and not being able to respond was still frustrating.

I think there is something to be said for the vernacular. If some of the prayers of the Mass were in Latin and some in the vernacular, that would best and it would also comply with what Vatican II ordered.


78 posted on 02/28/2007 4:38:56 PM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: Salvation
Good grief.....how did it get so tight around here that a discussion of the Latin Mass has to have a Moderator? I'm not even sure what a Catholic Caucus in the title means also....can you explain?

I go to both types of Masses, and I am not sure that I prefer the Latin Mass....it seems a little "colder".....I WISH THEY COULD TAKE THE GREAT PARTS OF BOTH OF THEM!

79 posted on 02/28/2007 4:43:52 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

So true....what younger priests even KNOW how to speak Latin? Maybe they could do a more solemn Mass with tradional music.


80 posted on 02/28/2007 4:45:41 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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