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1 posted on 12/12/2006 10:51:37 PM PST by Coleus
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...the Revolution is a centuries-old process, motivated by pride and sensuality, and therefore egalitarianism and liberalism, that dominates the modern world and seeks to destroy Christian civilization. Counter-Revolutionaries are those dedicated to defeating this process and defending the rights of God.

Defending the rights of God? What does this mean?

2 posted on 12/12/2006 11:48:59 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Thanks!


3 posted on 12/13/2006 3:27:30 AM PST by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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I hate the doctrine of immaculate conception because it is false and that is all the reason I need.

Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
5 posted on 12/13/2006 6:25:36 AM PST by bremenboy (Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
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What is puzzeling is that there are seemingly intelliegent people that believe this fairy tale...

There's not a human being ever been born ('cept Jesus Christ) who ever had an infallable 'second' during his/her lifetime...


8 posted on 12/13/2006 7:37:35 AM PST by Iscool (Anybody tired??? I have a friend who says "Come unto me, and I'll give you rest"...)
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Shouldn't there be a reason 4; Because the basis for it wasn't articulated until St Augustine in 300-something, even he advised against using it to state something like the doctrine of Immaculate conception, was debated as recently as the 1200s be renowned Catholic Saints like Thomas Aquinas, and was not even officially made a Roman Catholic teaching until 1854?

:)


9 posted on 12/13/2006 7:55:26 AM PST by kawaii
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Noting that it's hardly right to call all who reject the notion of the Immaculate Conception as 'enemies of the Roman Catholic Church'...


10 posted on 12/13/2006 7:56:17 AM PST by kawaii
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We protestants waltz through our Christian life in 3/4 time, praying to God the Father in the name of God the Son with the help of God the Holy Spirit. You guys keep trying to shoehorn Goddess the Mother into the dance, and commending to us a waltz with a 4/4 time signature!

No wonder we keep bumping elbows on the dance floor of life!

27 posted on 12/13/2006 8:47:42 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Coleus

Thanks for posting this.


29 posted on 12/13/2006 9:07:47 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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30 posted on 12/13/2006 9:09:28 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Here are some additional links about the Immaculate Conception for all who are genuinely interested in finding out more about the Patroness of the United States:

Three Reasons the Church’s Enemies Hate The Immaculate Conception

Mary Is a Model Who Works With Us and in Us

U.S. Catholic bishops to renew consecration of nation to Immaculate Conception

Catholic Meditation: To the Immaculate Conception on this Election Day

My visit to the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception

On Solemnity of Immaculate Conception - "In Mary Shines the Eternal Goodness of the Creator"

Pope makes pilgrimage to Mary statue in Rome, marking the feast of the Immaculate Conception

Pope: Mary the Immaculate Conception... (text of BXVI speech)

"Tota pulchra es, Maria, et macula originalis non est in te" (The Immaculate Conception)

The Immaculate Conception — Essential to the Faith

"Who Are You, Immaculate Conception?"

TURKEY Ephesus: The Feast of the Immaculate Conception at Mary’s House

Coming Dec 8th. Feast of the "Immaculate Conception"

Why the Immaculate Conception?

Catholic Encyclopedia: Immaculate Conception (The Doctrine and Its Roots)

The Immaculate Conception of Our Lady December 8

Mary's Immaculate Conception: A Memorable Anniversary

Ineffabilis Deus: 8 December 1854 (Dogma of the Immaculate Conception)

Why do we believe in the Immaculate Conception?

John Paul II goes to Lourdes; reflections on the Immaculate Conception

Your Praises We Sing--on the Dogma of the Proclamation of the Immaculate Conception, Dec. 8th

Eastern Christianity and the Immaculate Conception (Q&A From EWTN)

Memorandum on the Immaculate Conception [Newman]

On The Feast of The Immaculate Conception, The Patroness of the US, We Must Pray For Our Country[Read only]

31 posted on 12/13/2006 9:13:08 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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All the above from the main article of this thread.

Mod, is this what you meant when describing "inciteful?"

Today I will be a Calvinist in the tradition of Calvin; a Lutheran in the tradition of Luther.

37 posted on 12/13/2006 9:38:28 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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Thanks for posting this, I will read it in its entirely later today.

I would also add two other reasons, slightly different tone:

1. They hate conception.

2. They hate purity and moral cleanliness of any kind.


45 posted on 12/13/2006 9:57:41 AM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will see the truth)
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Another hijacked thread.

Lord, have mercy.

Christ, have mercy.

Lord, have mercy.


50 posted on 12/13/2006 10:03:19 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Three Reasons the Church’s Enemies Hate The Immaculate Conception

No, it was simply an ad hoc solution to a non-existent problem, and has itself caused lots of problems in the following centuries.
57 posted on 12/13/2006 10:10:26 AM PST by aruanan
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I'm not a Roman Catholic and I don't see what the big deal is.

The proclamation by Pius IX makes theological sense to me.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

73 posted on 12/13/2006 11:03:46 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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We went a whole 5 posts on this one.


97 posted on 12/13/2006 12:13:37 PM PST by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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The Word Among Us


Friday, December 08, 2006

Meditation
Ephesians 1:3-6,11-12



The Immaculate Conception

If you have any experience of motherhood, you know that it takes a lot of faith. In many ways, it’s something beyond your control. Suddenly, you have a new life inside of you. You do your best to nurture that life, but you don’t know how everything is going to turn out. You do everything you can to assure that your child will be loved and supported. Still, you have to trust God for the big picture.

As we honor Mary today, let’s remember the deep faith she had, not just to be a mother but to be the Mother of God! She didn’t comprehend how she could give birth to the Messiah, but she still said yes to God’s plan. She was told she would suffer greatly because of her child, but she still obeyed. Clearly, Mary was no shrinking violet. She took care of Jesus for thirty years, endured his crucifixion and death, and stayed true to him until the end.

Mary has many things to teach us. Like her, we are called to bring Jesus into this world, and like her, we too will suffer. When we face the challenges and temptations of life in this world, we can be tempted to forget about our walk with the Lord and just go with the flow. Or we can do as Mary did and proclaim God’s greatness, recognizing that he will look after us if we remain humble and open to his word: He has filled the hungry with good things, and sent the rich away empty (Luke 1:53).

Mary is more than just an idealistic example of perfect faith. She is a mother, and she wants nothing more than to bring us to her son, Jesus. Quite simply, she loves us! St. John Vianney tells us, Mary’s heart is so loving toward us that the hearts of all other mothers taken together are but a piece of ice in comparison. We can go to her, not just for our needs, but to ask her help in growing closer to the Lord. In the prayers of the rosary, we say to her, The Lord is with you! Let’s not forget Mary, this privileged insider in the heavenly court, who is already praying for each and every one of us!

Lord, thank you for your Blessed Mother! May I imitate her virtues and call upon her to help me walk with you!


129 posted on 12/13/2006 1:29:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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The Immaculate Conception


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Feast Day: December 8

Roman Catholic dogma holding that from the first instant of its creation, the soul of the Virgin Mary was free from original sin; this doctrine is not to be confused with that of the Virgin Birth, which holds that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin mother. Despite divergent scholarly opinions, the Roman Catholic church has consistently favored belief in the Immaculate Conception; a festival of that name, the significance of which is now indefinite, was celebrated in the Eastern church as early as the 5th century and in the Western church from the 7th century. Opposition to the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception was conducted in the 12th century by the French monastic St. Bernard of Clairvaux and in the 13th century by the famous Italian philosopher St. Thomas Aquinas. Among those who supported the doctrine was the 13th-century Scottish theologian John Duns Scotus. The theological controversy over the Immaculate Conception gained momentum in the 19th century. Finally in 1854, Pope Pius IX issued a solemn decree declaring the Immaculate Conception to be a dogma essential for the belief of the universal church. Under the title Immaculate Conception, the Virgin Mary is invoked as the patron of the United States, Brazil, Portugal, and Corsica.

If Jesus, the Son of God, could choose for His Mother her who pleased Him most, He would surely choose one acceptable to the Blessed Trinity and worthy of the great honour for which she was destined.  Mary was, therefore, not only free from all actual sin, but she also remained exempt from original sin; otherwise, she would not have been a Mother suitable for Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

God Himself has testified to Mary's Immaculate Conception by miracles.  Who can number the wonders that have been wrought at Lourdes, where she appeared eighteen times and declared to Bernadette and to the world: "I am the Immaculate Conception," just four years after this doctrine was defined as a dogma of faith?  Mary declared to the wholel world her approval of this doctrine and that she was not only immaculately conceived, but that she is the Immaculate Conception.

THE WORD OF GOD

“You are the glory of Jerusalem, the surpassing joy of Israel; you are the splendid boast of our people….May you be blest by the Lord Almighty forever and ever.”  (Jdt 15:9-10)

“I rejoice heartily in the Lord, in my God is the joy of my soul; for He has clothed me with a robe of salvation, and wrapped me in a mantle of justice,….like a bride bedecked with her jewels.”   (Is 61:10)

“A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.”  (Rv 12:1)

NOVENA PRAYERS

Novena Prayer
Immaculate Virgin Mary, you were pleasing in the sight of God from the first moment of your conception in the womb of your mother, St Anne.   You were chosen to be the Mother of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.  I believe the teaching of Holy Mother the Church, that in the first instant of your conception, by the singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race and your beloved Son, you were preserved from all stain of original sin.  I thank God for this wonderful privilege and grace He bestowed upon you as I honour your Immaculate Conception

Look graciously upon me as I implore this special favour:  (Mention your request).

Virgin Immaculate, Mother of God and my Mother, from your throne in heaven, turn your eyes of pity upon me.  Filled with confidence in your goodness and power, I beg you to help me in this journey of life, which is so full of dangers of my soul.  I entrust myself entirely to you, that I may never be the slave of the devil through sin, but may always live a humble and pure life.   I consecrate myself to you forever, for my only desire is to love your Divine Son Jesus.

Mary, since none of your devout servants has ever perished, may I, too, be saved.   Amen.

Prayer to Mary Immaculate

Mary, Mother of God, your greatness began at the first instant of your existence with the privilege of your Immaculate Conception.  After Almighty God and the Sacred Humanity of Jesus, there is no being so great as you.  It is true, you are a creature, and, therefore, far beneath the Supreme Being.  But you are a creature so holy and so perfect that you are superior to all other creatures.  God alone could make you so holy and so beautiful, and He did so to make you worthy of the dignity of being the Mother of Jesus, the Son of God, the Divine Word.

It was fitting that you, a virgin Mother, should conceive the Man who was also the Son of God.  It was fitting that you should be adorned with the greatest purity ever possible to a creature.  You are the Virgin to whom God the Father decreed to give His only Son – the Divine Word, equal to Himself in all things – that entering the natural order He might become your Son as well as His.  You are the immaculate Virgin whom the Son Himself chose to make His mother.   You are the immaculate Virgin whom the Holy Spirit willed to make his bride and in whom He would work the tremendous miracle of the Incarnation.  The privilege of the Immaculate Conception was suitable to your dignity.

Mary, my immaculate Mother, help me to imitate your sinlessness by keeping my soul free from every willful sin by the faithful observance of God’s commandments.   Help me to imitate your fullness of grace by receiving Holy Communion frequently, where I shall obtain the sanctifying grace that will make my soul holy and pleasing to God, and the actual graces I need to practice virtue.  Through prayer may grace fill my soul with the life of God and transform me into a living image of Jesus, just as you were.

Prayer
Father, You prepared the Virgin Mary to be the worthy Mother of Your Son.  You made it possible for her to share beforehand in the salvation Your Son, Jesus Christ, would bring by His death, and kept her without sin from the first moment of her conception.  Give us the grace by her prayers ever to live in Your presence without sin.  We ask this through the same Christ our Lord.  Amen.


144 posted on 12/13/2006 2:27:22 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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This article makes me uneasy. If we get done with all the us v. them stuff, I'd like to hear some opinions about it.


170 posted on 12/13/2006 5:27:01 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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How about the fact that there is no Scirptural basis, and in fact, there is evidence to the contrary?


173 posted on 12/13/2006 5:35:14 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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