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BIRTH OF MARY, September 8th
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Posted on 09/07/2006 11:32:47 PM PDT by Salvation

BIRTH OF MARY
September 8th  
A. Valentini  
The present Feast forms a link between the New and the Old Testament. It shows that Truth succeeds symbols and figures and that the New Covenant replaces the Old. Hence, all creation sings with joy, exults, and participates in the joy of this day.... This is, in fact, the day on which the Creator of the world constructed His temple; today is the day on which by a stupendous project a creature becomes the preferred dwelling of the Creator" (Saint Andrew of Crete).

"Let us celebrate with joy the birth of the Virgin Mary, of whom was born the Sun of Justice.... Her birth constitutes the hope and the light of salvation for the whole world.... Her image is light for the whole Christian people" (From the Liturgy).

As these texts so clearly indicate, an atmosphere of joy and light pervades the Birth of the Virgin Mary.

 

1. Historical Details about the Feast

The origin of this Feast is sought in Palestine. It goes back to the consecration of a church in Jerusalem, which tradition identifies as that of the present basilica of St. Ann.

At Rome the Feast began to be kept toward the end of the 7th century, brought there by Eastern monks. Gradually and in varied ways it spread to the other parts of the West in the centuries that followed. From the 13th century on, the celebration assumed notable importance, becoming a Solemnity with a major Octave and preceded by a Vigil calling for a fast. The Octave was reduced to a simple one during the reform of St. Pius X and was abolished altogether under the reform of Pius XII in 1955.

The present Calendar characterizes the Birth of Mary as a "Feast," placing it on the same plane as the Visitation.

For some centuries now, the Birth has been assigned to September 8 both in the East and in the West, but in ancient times it was celebrated on different dates from place to place. However, when the Feast of the Immaculate Conception (which has a later origin than that of the Birth) was extended to the whole Church, the Birth little by little became assigned everywhere to September 8: nine months after the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.

 

2. At the Heart of Salvation

As we know, the Gospels have not transmitted to us anything about the birth of the Virgin Mary. Their attention is completely centered on the mystery of Christ and His salvific mission.

The birth of Mary is recounted by the Protevangelium of James (5:2), an apocryphal writing from the end of the 2nd century. Subsequent tradition is based on this account.

The description - although in the manner of an apocryphal document - obviously presents an important historical event: the birth of the Mother of the Lord.

But the problem that concerns us here is the significance of this event. In the case of all the Saints, the Church commemorates their birthday on the day of their return to the Lord. However, in the cases of St. John the Baptizer and the Blessed Virgin, it also celebrates the day of their earthly birth. This is a singular fact already emphasized in ancient times, for example, by Paschasius Radbertus (d. about 859).

The reason for this fact is not found primarily in the greatness or the privileges of the persons involved but in the singular mission that was theirs in the History of Salvation. In this light, the birth of the Blessed Virgin is considered to be - like that of John the Baptizer - in direct relationship with the coming of the Savior of the world. Thus, the birth and existence of Marysimilar to and even more than those of the Baptizer - take on a significance that transcends her own person. It is explained solely in the context of the History of Salvation, connected with the People of God of the Old Covenant and the New. Mary's birth lies at the confluence of the two Testaments - bringing to an end the stage of expectation and the promises and inaugurating the new times of grace and salvation in Jesus Christ.

Mary, the Daughter of Zion and ideal personification of Israel, is the last and most worthy representative of the People of the Old Covenant but at the same time she is "the hope and the dawn of the whole world." With her, the elevated Daughter of Zion, after a long expectation of the promises, the times are fulfilled and a new economy is established (LG 55).

The birth of Mary is ordained in particular toward her mission as Mother of the Savior. Her existence is indissolubly connected with that of Christ: it partakes of a unique plan of predestination and grace. God's mysterious plan regarding the incarnation of the Word embraces also the Virgin who is His Mother. In this way, the Birth of Mary is inserted at the very heart of the History of Salvation.

 

3. Christological Orientations

The Biblical readings of the Feast have a clear Christological- salvific orientation that forms the backdrop for contemplating the figure of Mary.

Micah 5:1-4a. The Prophet announces the coming of the Lord of Israel who will come forth from Bethlehem of Judah. The Mother of the Messiah, presented as one about to give birth, will give life to the prince and pastor of the house of David who will bring justice and peace. She will work with the Messiah to bring forth a new people.

Romans 8.28-30. This passage does not speak directly about Mary but about the believer justified by the grace of Christ and gifted with the indwelling of the Spirit. He or she has been chosen and called from all eternity to share Christ's life and glory. This is true in a privileged manner for Mary, Spouse and Temple of the Holy Spirit, Mother of God's Son, and intimately united with Him in a Divine plan of predestination and grace.

Matthew 1:1-16, 18-23. The meaning of this seemingly and genealogy is theologically profound: to place Jesus, the MessiahLord, within the dynastic tree of His people. He is a descendant, and in fact "the descendant," of Abraham (cf. Gal 3:16) and the Patriarchs in accord with the promises, and He is the semi-heir of the Prophets. The ring that united Christ with His people is Mary, Daughter of Zion and Mother of the Lord.

The virginity stressed by the Gospel text is the sign of the Divine origin of the Son and of the absolute newness that now breaks forth in the history of human beings.

The Christological-salvific purpose and tone dominate not only the Bible readings but also the Eucharistic Celebration and the Liturgy of the Hours.

It has been observed that, although the texts of this Feast's celebration are less rich than those of other Marian feasts, they do have one outstanding characteristic: "The number of themes is rather restricted, [but] there are extremely numerous invitations to joy" (J. Pascher).

Indeed, joy pervades the whole of this Feast's liturgy. If many "will rejoice" at the birth of the precursor (cf. Lk 1:14), a much greater joy is stirred up by the birth of the Mother of the Savior. Hence, this is a Feast that serves as a prelude to the "joy to all people" brought about by the Birth of the Son of God at Christmas and expressed by the singing of hymns and carols.

Added to this theme of joy on this Marian Feast is that of light because with Mary's birth the darkness is dispersed and there rises in the world the dawn that announces the Sun of Justice, Christ the Lord.

Taken from:
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To: PandaRosaMishima
Frankly, the logic of your post escapes me.
I see that you attend a Presbyterian church yet continually pop-up defending Roman Catholic doctrine that is plainly at odds with anything you might find outside of their church. So, I guess one could say that you are rather "eclectic".
241 posted on 09/09/2006 11:34:55 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Bainbridge

My parents are Unitarians; I went to a Baptist high school and a Quaker college where I studied Buddhism. Why wouldn't I be eclectic?


242 posted on 09/09/2006 12:08:39 PM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: PandaRosaMishima
Unitarians:those who believe in, at most, one god.
243 posted on 09/09/2006 4:10:06 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: phatus maximus

You seem to love the book of John. What do you make of this:

"John 21: 24-25. It is this disciple who testifies to these things and has written them, and we know that his testimony is true. There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written."

Okay. Do you think everything Christ told His disciples is recorded? That is where Tradition comes from...an oral teaching that is passed on. Some was codified and some was not.

As for your analogy regarding Christ's sacrifice, He ransomed us. He went in and paid the bail bondsman for our full offense. However, you still must open the door of the cell, walk across the floor and leave the prison. That requires YOUR cooperation.

It sounds to me as if you do feel the once saved always saved route is what has happened. I do not. I give you Mark Shea's analogy told here:

http://www.mark-shea.com/salvation.html

Peace!


244 posted on 09/09/2006 5:27:53 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Matthew and Mark passages are crystal clear. They record Jesus' words that He considered His mother no more important than anyone who hears and does the will of God.

Your basis of reasoning is what you have been taught by men what the scriptures say, not what they actually say. I think it is a mistake and Jesus called the Pharisees and Sadducees to task about it.

In my opinion, if you are lead into the worship of idols and images by human authority, you are still liable for it. Note that those who were led into the worship of an idol during the Exodus bore the displeasure of God, not just the leaders.

245 posted on 09/10/2006 7:11:32 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell; Salvation
The Israelites who worshipped idols in the OT were condemned for doing just that: worshipping idols. The Christians who honor Jesus' mother will be commended for doing just that: honoring His mother.

If you can't see the difference here, then I'm sorry, I can't help you. I only wonder why you've intruded on this celebration-of-Mary's-birthday thread. If you don't care for the honoree, it's generally appreciated if you refrain from showing up at the party.

246 posted on 09/10/2006 9:47:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (All generations will call her blessed.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What about a statue of Mary, that catholics kneel down and pray before, does not fit the term "graven image"?

Graven - cut into a desired shape (Example: "Graven images")
Image - a representation of a person (especially in the form of sculpture)

247 posted on 09/10/2006 10:17:15 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
God did not and does not forbid the making of religious statues. In fact, He commanded the making of statues for His temple. That in itself shows that your interpretation of the First Commandment is incorrect, since it is disproved in the same books of the Bible which contain the Decalogue:

Exodus 25:18
"You shall make two cherubim of gold, make them of hammered work at the two ends of the mercy seat.

See also:

Exodus 25:19

Exodus 25:20

Exodus 25:22

Exodus 26:1

Exodus 26:31

Exodus 36:8

Exodus 36:35

Exodus 37:7

Exodus 37:8

Exodus 37:9

Numbers 7:89

1 Kings 6:23

1 Kings 6:25

1 Kings 6:27

1 Kings 6:28

1 Kings 6:29

1 Kings 6:32

1 Kings 6:35

1 Kings 7:29

1 Kings 7:36

That's a whole lot of God-approved carving of graven images, my dear.

There's no doubt that what God forbids is for people to adore any creature rather than the Creator; and that includes statues and carvings, and much else besides.

Your second misunderstanding is in interpreting all expressions of honor and veneration as worship, even when the difference, well-understood in Exodus and defined with great precision by the Seventh Ecumenical Council, has been plainly and repeatedly explained to you.

Go back and look at post #203.

And please retract your mistaken statement that we worship statues. I am your neighbor. You are bearing false witness. There is a commandment about that.

248 posted on 09/10/2006 10:47:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You are bearing false witness.

Down the road from me is a hay field where sometime in the past someone said they saw a vision of Mary. Now, there is a statue of Mary in that field. I watch people come there, kneel down before that statue and pray. Afterward, they put money in a box protected by wire hardware cloth.

I say it as I see it. That is not false witness. If I were to say it, having not seen it, that would be false witness.

Did any of the Israelites kneel and worship these cherubims, pray to them, sacrifice material possessions to them?

Worship - a feeling of profound love and admiration - show devotion to (a deity) - love unquestioningly and uncritically or to excess; venerate as an idol.

249 posted on 09/10/2006 12:16:45 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Whether the people who saw a dubius vision in a hayfield, put up a statue, and made gestures of veneration to it were worshipping it or not, I don't know. I don't even know if they were Catholic, or claimed to be. There are plenty of spurious apparitions, not approved by the Church; and there are superstitious people who pay no heed to the commandments and doctrines we have from Christ.

What I can say for sure is that the Catholic church has carefully defined what "adoration" is, and carefully distinguishes it from honor, veneration, and other forms of respect. The Church teaches that adoration ("latria") must never be offered to any creature, but to the Creator alone.

If you want to criticize idolatry, fine; but do not attribute it to the Catholic Church which already condemns it.

250 posted on 09/10/2006 1:32:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Frank Sheed

You seem to love the book of John. What do you make of this:

"John 21: 24-25. It is this disciple who testifies to these things and has written them, and we know that his testimony is true. There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written."


Well, it's clear that the passage tells us what is obviously true...not all actions or spoken words are written down. Obviously the Gospel was indeed passed on thru verbal conversation just like is today as well as in written form. What I think is an impasse for folks of my ilk and folks of your ilk is that it's not that we think the only things that are written down are what was passed on, but anything and i mean anything that is of the level of doctrine should meet the standards set forth in scripture. Allow me to give an example again:

Imagine we are back in the early first century and we hear an apostle preaching. What he is saying is going to be consistent with God's inspired written Word (yes I'm fully aware the canon is not in place yet), but the Apostles did not preach a Gospel contrary to the Holy Writ, they spoke the same message. To say that the New Testament did not exist during that time is only partly accurate as the text of the epistles were widespread and known during the lifes of those that wrote them. Yes there were other false texts but the Body of Christ knew the inspired works by compring them to existing scripture as the Word tells us.

Allow me to ask you a question. Do you in your heart of hearts truely believe that the Apostles spread the word of the immaculate conception to the faithful along with the Gospel of Christ? Do you believe that the concept of purgatory was preached as doctrine along with their oral traditions they passed down? If so, why do you think (I'm strictly asking for your opinion here) that there are no writings explictly speaking of these items in Paul, Peter or John's writings like there is about salvation and other doctrine - granted the Immaculate Conception is dogma only I believe (correct me if I am wrong). I agree, the Gospel was spread orally and by text, but the most key and absolute items were consistenly written so that the truth could be spread and compared to when hearing what was taught.

On to the other item:

As for your analogy regarding Christ's sacrifice, He ransomed us. He went in and paid the bail bondsman for our full offense. However, you still must open the door of the cell, walk across the floor and leave the prison. That requires YOUR cooperation..

Of course it requires our cooperation, but that cooperation is faith, is it not? We cannot be saved without believing (see John 3:18 - yes, I do love John's gospel!). Also as James tells us we must have a living faith as a dead faith is really no faith at all and a living faith is one in which we are actively doing the will of God, loving Him and our fellow mankind. The good deeds we do are prepared for us by Christ and we can only do them when we are in a state of faith. Apart from Christ we can do nothing, but in Christ we are the light of the world.

In your example above, are you ransomed whether or not you leave prison? In the eyes of the judge you are--you've been paid for and if you choose to not believe that you are free to go and remain in the prison you may (although I suspect you'd be escorted out by some guards if you lingered). My point is that we are ransomed, saved, paid for, forgiven by Christ's sacrifice. If we ignore this fact, i.e. don't believe and reject this we are not saved. So no, I am not a once saved always saved in those terms. Nor am I a once I believe I'm saved and now I can do whatever I want saved either. Christ tells us we must repent of our sin and go and sin no more so just because we are welcomed to the Father thru the Holy Spirit and Christ does it mean we're in no matter what we continue to do or not do from then on. Christ's one perfect sacrifice is sufficient for all sin and those who put their complete trust and faith in him shall live, so sayeth scripture, Amen!!

I hope that helps clarify my position.

Thanks for the respectful discussion, I enjoy "talking" with others that way...

In Christ.


251 posted on 09/10/2006 6:04:43 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
A major Catholic church organization put up the statue and exhibit. At lest twice I have crept pass two miles of cars parked on both side of the rural highway, presided over by state police.

This would be the same organization that runs the Catholic transmission towers on the hill that transmits, to four cardinal directions, microwave so strong that it interferres with telephones and VCRs.

No, I don't think it's a splinter organization.

252 posted on 09/10/2006 9:39:16 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Where are you?

There have been only about a dozen Marian apparitions over the past 500 years which have been investigated and given ecclesial approval, eight of them in the 20th century:

Fatima (Portugal), Beauraing (Belgium), Banneux (Belgium), Akita (Japan), Syracuse (Italy), Zeitoun (Egypt), Manila (Philippines), and Betania (Venezuela).

There have been hundreds reported, but, as I say, only 8 investigated and approved.

So I'm wondering whether you (1) live in, for instance, Venezuela, or (2) some local organization is giving support to a dubious phenomenon, which makes me go "Hmmm..."

Or maybe you're talking about Bayside or Conyers, or one of the other "manifestations" which has been definitely repudiated by the church as inauthentic -- but which nevertheless continue to attract the disobedient, the dissenters, and the dingbats.

253 posted on 09/11/2006 9:05:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm in the Birmingham area.

I don't know that it matters. I see Catholic folks kneel before statutes of Mary and Jesus all the time.

I assume you're Catholic. Haven't you?

254 posted on 09/11/2006 5:13:58 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
We've discussed this before.

I have no doubt that there are some Catholics who have a superstitious regard for statues. (I have never actually met any.) In this, they would be distorting or even denying the Catholic faith.

However, kneeling before a statue doesn't in itself mean worshipping a statue, any more than saluting a flag or kissing a love letter means worshipping cloth or paper.

Gestures of honor and reverence must be evaluated according to the customs and intentions of the person making the gesture. Leave custom and intention out of your purview, and you lose all possibility of right judgment.

255 posted on 09/12/2006 5:09:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: William Terrell
Oh! Crap! I think I've found out what's going on.

I googled Apparitions Birmingham and came up with the information that this is Caritas, a Medjuogorje-promoting group.

First of all, this is a cult, with no ties either to the diocese of Birmingham or to any lay movement recognized by Rome.

Second, this article, if anything, downplays the weirdness of this outfit. They are by no means "fundamentalist," if by that term you mean adhering to basic doctrine and discipline. They're apparently pretty notorious, since even the Medjugorje people in former Yugoslavia --- themselves a highly dubious group who have operated from the git-go in a position of defiance against their own bishop ---don't want anything to do with them.

Third, the article says, "Although the church has not authenticated the visions (in former Yugoslavia), the Vatican permits religious pilgrimages to Medjugorje." Not so: the church explicitly forbids official (diocesan) pilgrimages there. Caritas --- the Birmingham organization --- is the biggest outfit in the USA organizing Medjugorje pilgrimages.

Orec (pastor in Medjugorje) wrote, "Regarding this I wish to inform you that we have nothing to do with them and we have notified them to cease their activities. If either is still doing this he is acting on his own."

Plus "Caritas has absolutely no connection with the Diocese of Birmingham. There are no canonical links."

"In a letter that Ed Locks received in January, James Frances Stafford, a Catholic cardinal based in Rome, expressed concern for the families who have children at Caritas. He also said Caritas has no chance of being recognized as a lay organization in the Roman Catholic church.

(You could have figured this out on your own in about 10 minutes by googling the info., or even by reading the BIRMINGHAM POST-HERALD, but nevermind: glad to oblige.)

What I said in a previous post about "the disobedient, the dissenters, and the dingbats" applies in spades to Caritas/Birmingham. If you find their activites disgusting, welcome to the club.

256 posted on 09/12/2006 6:09:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: bigcat32

But the Bible asks us to pray for others.

And we can ask Mary to pray for us, too! Nothing at all wrong with that.


257 posted on 12/09/2006 7:58:32 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Another reason for joy during this Christmas season.


258 posted on 12/09/2006 8:09:50 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Kolokotronis

Lovely inspirational artwork, thanks for posting.


259 posted on 12/09/2006 8:21:27 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Ciexyz

"Lovely inspirational artwork, thanks for posting."

Indeed it is a beautiful icon, both inspirational and didactic. And you are very welcome!


260 posted on 12/09/2006 8:45:53 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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