Posted on 05/17/2006 9:08:53 PM PDT by Full Court
font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="4" color="#990000">From Operation Rescue to Operation Convert
May 21-27, 2006 |
by TIM DRAKE |
Also in the Register: Randal Terry, CatholicRandall Terry has become Catholic. Tell me about your family. How did you come to know Christ? How did you first get started in pro-life work? What led to the founding of Operation Rescue? How many times were you arrested? When did you first take an interest in the Catholic Church? Which theological hurdles were the most difficult for you to jump? I understand that you are awaiting word on the annulment of your first marriage. Can you tell me why you chose to be received into the Church (without being able to receive the Eucharist), before the resolution of your annulment? Tell me how your reception into the Church came about. What was your greatest fear? How do you expect your evangelical colleagues will react to news of your conversion? Do you anticipate that your conversion could hurt you in your Senate race in a predominantly Protestant state?
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As far as I can see, each of these (Sola gratia, Sola fide, Sola scriptura, Solus Christus, and Soli Deo gloria) could very well have a catholic and orthodox interpretation, but this is an interpretation I have never heard from a Protestant source. (That could probably lead to a discussion much more subtle and detailed than I am able to participate in. I know my limitations!)
I do want to directly dispute one point. You said:
"William Tyndale... was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English against the dictate of the Romanists."
Not exactly. Numerous partial and complete English translations of the Bible had been made from the 7th century onward. From 950 to 970 the monk Aldred produced an Anglo-Saxon version of the Lindisfarne Gospels. You can see this for yourself in the British Library: the first Bible translated into English, over 1,000 years ago!
These translations were produced, preserved, and treasured by the Catholic (or, as you say, "Romanist") Church. Centuries later, when the printing press made books much more widely available, English-speaking Catholics exiled on the other side of the Channel published the Douay-Rheims English translation one year before the King James Version.
I just wanted to correct the over-broad generalization that the Catholic Church was opposed to the translation or publication of the Bible.
One other thing: besides translating the Bible, Tyndale also held and published views which were considered heretical, first by the Catholic Church, and later by the Church of England which was established by Henry VIII. His Bible translation also included notes and commentary promoting these views.
Furthermore, Tyndale published an essay in 1530, "The Practyse of Prelates," which opposed King Henry VIII's divorce and remarriage. This infuriated the King. Thus Tyndale had to flee England; went into exile; was betrayed; was imprisoned on the Continent; and was hauled back to England and martyred in 1536. It was not, as you say, "at the dictates of the Romanists" --- the "Romanists" weren't in a position to "dictate" anything in the court of Henry VIII. Tyndale was strangled to death, and his body burnt, at the instigation of agents of Henry VIII and the Anglican Church.
Please pray for me.
Okay, and where in the Bible does it say everything has to be in the Bible to be true? Can you post that verse for us?
Again, where in the Bible does it say everything has to be in the Bible to be true? Can you post that verse for us?
Why even bother with the Bible then??
You folks keep posting statements like this as if they were some kind of proof. The simple succession of events stated above is no proof that there was any "hanky-panky" between Terry and his second wife BEFORE he was divorced from his first, which is what your constant criticism is implying. Give it a rest--you're just gossip-monters.
There is this thing called the "rebound effect" which often results in a sequence of events as above.
was hauled back to England and martyred in 1536.
I don't believe this is correct, I believe he was executed in Belgium. The man who "fingered" him to the church court in Belgium an Englishman and agent of King Henry.
Very odd that Tyndale, that hero of the Reformation, would likely never have run afoul of the Church in Belgium but for his opposition to the English Protestant King (thereby -- believe it or not -- siding with the Pope!) on a matter of Catholic doctrine.
Because, as any Roman Catholic will tell you, the Bible "is" the infallible word of God. What you fail to understand is that it is not ALL of the infallible teaching given to mankind by God and Christ is found in the Bible. The rest of it is contained in what Catholics call "Sacred Tradition", and it includes those things directly taught by the Apostles.
Think about it. You Protestants believe that the teachings of the Apostles written down in the books of the Bible are infallible, but you believe that those Apostolic teachings that DIDN'T get written down are not??? The Bible itself tells you directly that both are valid, and in fact the Bible is the "lesser" source compared to Tradition. (can't recall specific chapter and verse at this point, and I'm away from my references, but one source is St. Paul).
And did He support illegal immigration. I would say no.
The rest of it is contained in what Catholics call "Sacred Tradition",
I think I'll just stick the The Infallible Word Of
God if that's OK with you.
As far as predestination goes, why baptize an infant before you know if he was predestined or not?
And why baptize an unbeliever of any age?
Three words: Shelia Rauch Kennedy
Can you write to the dead and ask them to pray for you?
Reference to her is mentioned above. Terri's plight powerfully touched a whole lot of people, and still does. Father Pavone, the Franciscan Brothers Paul and Hilary and Monsignor Malinowski and many Catholics were on the scene.
The Catholics mostly prayed the Rosary, The Divine Mercy and had processions, an act in itself calming those many distraught. It touched protestants and folks of other religions alike.
Post # 3,297 Terri MAY Dailies
A year later the topic lives with Terri's Legacy stronger than ever, the suffering of a faithful Catholic during Holy Week and her devoted Catholic family setting lessons for many.
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Do you honestly think that Joseph Kennedy had ANY intention of being faithful to his wife during their marriage? Old Joe passed on his 'Continental' attitudes about marriage to his sons, who passed it on to THEIR sons. That attitude is that ANY woman is fair game for a Kennedy man, whenever he decides he wants to have her. If he's married at the time, too bad for the wife.
I doubt whether ANY of the Kennedy men has ever entered into a valid Sacramental marriage, as is required by the Church. Any of them, or their wives, would have had grounds to annul any marriage into which they entered.
There aren't any dead people in heaven.
Yeah, and when the wife doesn't want her marriage to be annulled, she just gets rough shod over by the RCC so the high profile Kennedy can go and marry someone else.
Ok, how do they get your mail?
Because they don't have any supernatural powers.
Jesus is the only intercessor.
Sixteenth century history was a big politico-religious tangle with plenty of cruelty on all sides. Documents of the time crackle with malice. Other than Margaret Clitheroe it's hard to think of anybody who seemed to be charity clear through.
Of course they do. All the baptized have supernatural powers given to them by God. How do you think the Apostles healed people and raised the dead, if not through supernatural powers? Where's your faith?
Jesus is the only intercessor.
Then Paul sinned by asking other people to pray for him.
Sometime after that, for some reason, Randall lost his way.
I don't think it can be properly interpreted independently of or outside of (or against) the Apostles and their successors. If it could be, then tell me: who interprets the Bible without error? If "any" independent Christian can do so, then why do these independent Christians all contradict each other?
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