Here's another one for your Church Vicky!
Posted on 11/05/2005 2:49:05 PM PST by NYer
Gene Robinson, the world's first openly gay bishop, said that Pope Benedict XVI's attitude toward homosexuals might be boosting membership of the Anglican Church in the United States.
"We are seeing so many Roman Catholics joining the (Anglican) church," said Robinson on a visit to London. "Pope (Joseph) Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) may be the best thing that ever happened to the (US) Episcopal Church."
Robinson, whose appointment in 2003 as Bishop of New Hampshire has been deeply divisive for Anglican Christians around the world, added: "Let's keep our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters in our prayers".
"I cannot imagine how discouraging it would be to have a church hierarchy doing what it does.
"I find it so vile that they think they are going to end the child abuse scandal by throwing out homosexuals from seminaries. It is an act of violence that needs to be confronted."
Robinson's comments referred to The Vatican's recent ban on ordaining gay men, even if they accept a vow of celibacy, in a bid to tackle a series of child sex abuse scandals.
Earlier this week, the Anglican Church's highest-ranking cleric, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, was urged to ban Robinson's attendance in London.
Some evangelical groups and religious conservatives claimed the visit would cause "further misunderstanding and upset" within the Anglican community.
Williams allowed Robinson to appear but asked the 58-year-old not to wear his full vestments or take part in the religious service, which celebrated the 10th anniversary of Changing Attitude, an organisation for gay Christians.
During the service, at St Martin-in-the-Fields church, in Trafalgar Square, Robinson was given a standing ovation after stating that homosexuality and Christianity were not mutually exclusive.
"We (homosexuals) belong in the temple. It is exactly where God wants us to be," he said.
Robinson's appointment -- and other moves like those of a Canadian diocese to bless same-sex unions -- have been vehemently opposed by more conservative Anglicans, particularly those in Africa.
Failure to reconcile the two sides could see a schism in the 70-million-strong worldwide Anglican community, church leaders have warned.
Yeah, bad news for us in the Episcopal church.
ECUSA is dead. They are no how, no way Christian. Some of the comments from Swing, Robinson, Griswald and the like prove out my point.
Fixin to get ugly folks, but'cha know what? We conservatives are gonna be better off. We will remain with the Anglican communion, ECUSA will be aligned with their revisionist, universalist brethern. More power to'em.
Well, Vicki Gene, if we Catholics can offload our lavender disordered on ECUSA and that flips your switch, you are welcome to them. We will gladly take those Episcopalians, willing to adopt the Catholic Faith of your and their ancestors, Vicki, and who are willing to believe and live as Catholics.
Then: In this corner: Christianity and in Vicki's corner: lavender mania.
BTW, Vicki Gene, do you speak for any particular god? Moloch? Baal?
You've got to be kidding ! any articles on homo ect. are a waste of time they went to hell years ago for these SINS and they will continue to go there and JOIN THEM.
So according to him, the Pro-Homos are leaving our churh (Catholic) to join their sodomy churches. But at the same time, their conservatives are comming over to ours. I'm fine with that. The Catholic church will be stronger for it.
It is sad if people leave the fullness of truth that one finds in the Catholic Church, but it is appropriate if people do not subscribe to the entire deposit of faith, the teaching once delivered to the saints. Paul and the other apostolic epistle writers repeatedly talk about the need to shun false teachers and not hold communion with them.
If that chart is accurate, it is an amazing dropoff in just two years.
I noticed that too ("Pope Ratzinger"). "Pope Benedict" would have been more respectful and ecumenical, but I guess ECUSA is not interested in ecumenism and mutual respect any more.
Here's another one for your Church Vicky!
Its a win-win situation. The liberal Anglican church can rub their hands with glee as the get a bigger 'market share' and the catholics win by having the moral high ground, as usual. Cardinal Ratzinger put forward an idea that the church should shrink back to its core base. That would 'prune' off all the dodgey child molestors and john kerry type catholics who are a danger to the faith.
My botany is a little rusty... Is that a pansy on his miter?
>> If that chart is accurate, it is an amazing dropoff in just two years. <<
Well, there is one glaring omission, and that is the break line. The base of the lines is not the zero point, but rather 760,000. The effect is to make a drop that is significant, but a rather small percentage of all Anglican worshippers look like a highe percentage drop. It's not "inaccurate," but it does violate standard form in illustrating only textually and not graphically that the bars do not descend all the way to zero.
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