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Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online
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| July 13, 2005
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Posted on 07/13/2005 12:49:13 AM PDT by dsc
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"subtle seductions, which act unnoticed"
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posted on
07/13/2005 12:49:21 AM PDT
by
dsc
To: dsc
Ah yes, it is those evil books rather than those video games, television programs, magazine advertising, billboards, etc that so drastically affect children...
Yeah right.
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posted on
07/13/2005 12:57:22 AM PDT
by
kingu
To: kingu
Well, that didn't take long.
Of course video games, television programs, magazine advertising, billboards, etc. have an influence. And so do those evil books.
I think I finally have it figured out. The Holy Father referred to "subtle seductions, which act unnoticed."
The key word there is "unnoticed."
I think perhaps some people are just unwilling to face the fact that they *didn't* notice, that they weren't *first* to see it, that they had to have it pointed out to them.
I think perhaps some people would rather die than admit that to themselves, and that's why no amount of reasoned argument avails, why the more it piles up, the angrier they get.
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posted on
07/13/2005 1:19:06 AM PDT
by
dsc
To: kingu
Occultism is an abomination to God - no matter what the form.
To: PetroniusMaximus
For cryin' out loud, they're fantasy novels, get over it.
To: dsc
Lord of the Rings is better. I've read Harry Potter and it's easy to see why kids these days don't read books like The Hobbit, LOTR and C.S.Lewis.
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posted on
07/13/2005 3:27:59 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: DefiantZERO
***For cryin' out loud, they're fantasy novels, get over it.***
Hypothetical: how would you feel is Harry Potter was "fantasy" novel about a pot smoking, young meth dealer and his male prostitute, junkie friends?
Would you bee cool with letting your kids read that?
To: PetroniusMaximus
Twelve Practices God Forbids....
1. Necromancy: Communication with the dead, conjuration of the spirits of the dead, for the purpose of revealing the future or influencing the course of events. Deut 18:11; I Sam 28:1-25; Isa 8:19; I Chron 10:13-14
2. Enchantments: The act of influencing by charms and incantations; the practice of magical arts; use of human voice or music to bring another under psychic control. Lev 19:26; Deut 18:10-12; II Chron 33:6; II Kings 17:17; Isa 47:8-11; Jer 27:8; Dan 1:20
3. Witchcraft: Dealing with evil spirits. Deut 18:10-12; II Chron 33:6; I Sam 15:23; Gal 5:19-21
4. Sorcery: Use of power gained from assistance or control of evil spirits, especially for divining. Jer 27:9; Isa 47:9; Rev 21:8
5. Divination: Fortune-telling. Deut 18:10-14; II Kings 17:17; Jer 27:8-9, 29:8-9; Acts 16:16-24
6. Wizardry: Magic, sorcery. Deut 18:11; II Kings 17:17; Exo 22:18
7. Charm: A spell; to affect by magic. Deut 18:11; Isa 19:3
8. Star Gazing/Astrology: Divination of the supposed influence of the stars upon human affairs and terrestrial events by their position and aspects. Isa 47:12-15; Jer 10:2; Dan 1:18-20, 2:1-49, 4:1-37; 5:7-15
9. Soothsaying: Foretelling events; prophesying by a spirit other than the Holy Spirit. Josh 13:22; Micah 5:12-15; Acts 16:16-18
10. Prognostication: To foretell from signs or symptoms; prophesying without the Holy Spirit; soothsaying. Isa 47:12-15; Josh 13:22; Micah 5:12-15; Acts 16:16-18
11. Observing Times: Astrology. Lev 19:26; Deut 18:10-14; II Kings 21:6; II Chron 33:6
12. Magic: Witchcraft. Deut 18:10-12; II Chron 33:6, I Sam 15:23
To: Esther Ruth
13. Judging others: "Judge not lest ye be judged...Why seest thou a mote in thy brother's eye, and perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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posted on
07/13/2005 4:24:26 AM PDT
by
Grut
To: Grut
God will judge and He has given us His rules that He WILL judge us by. He also gives us a free will obviously, to do as we please if we choose to not follow His rules.
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posted on
07/13/2005 4:33:01 AM PDT
by
Esther Ruth
(Choose THIS DAY who you WILL Serve for no man can serve two masters.)
To: Esther Ruth
Which has what to do with your judging others?
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posted on
07/13/2005 4:38:58 AM PDT
by
Grut
To: Grut
Satan, The Devil and ALL his Demons are liars!! There WILL be judgement!
Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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posted on
07/13/2005 5:03:15 AM PDT
by
Esther Ruth
(And I saw a new heaven and earth, for the first heaven and earth were passed away..Rev 21:1)
To: PetroniusMaximus
"Hypothetical: how would you feel is Harry Potter was "fantasy" novel about a pot smoking, young meth dealer and his male prostitute, junkie friends?"
Apples and oranges.
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posted on
07/13/2005 5:15:08 AM PDT
by
jdm
(The answer to the extra credit question on a Columbia U exam is always choice C: "Bush's Fault.")
To: jdm
*** Apples and oranges.***
Not an answer...
To: PetroniusMaximus
Hypothetical: how would you feel is Harry Potter was "fantasy" novel about a pot smoking, young meth dealer and his male prostitute, junkie friends?
Would you be cool with letting your kids read that?
No, but it's not about any of that, so the point is moot.
That's like saying that you wouldn't let your kids watch Winnie the Pooh if it was about crack whores, polygamy, and lesbian orgies. What kind of point exactly do you make?
To: DefiantZERO
*** No, but it's not about any of that, so the point is moot.***
Not so quick.
***What kind of point exactly do you make?***
First off, let me ask you - are you a Christian?
To: PetroniusMaximus
Yes sir, though I fail to see the relevance. Has Christianity become so narrow-minded?
I read and watch Star Trek, which in many cases promotes evolution. But I enjoy it anyway. Am I a sinner?
To: Esther Ruth
8. Star Gazing/Astrology: Divination of the supposed influence of the stars upon human affairs and terrestrial events by their position and aspects. Isa I'm not sure how this jives with the Magi. Weren't they suppose to be following a star to find Jesus.
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posted on
07/13/2005 5:54:58 AM PDT
by
mware
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
To: Esther Ruth
You seriously need to calm down and learn the difference between practicing an art and reading a fictional story about it..
To: DefiantZERO
Yes sir, though I fail to see the relevance. Has Christianity become so narrow-minded? I read and watch Star Trek, which in many cases promotes evolution. But I enjoy it anyway. Am I a sinner?Yes. But if you rub the golden toe of a statue in the Vatican, somehow it may help your cause.
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