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Amish Plagued By Genetic Disorders
KYW.COM ^ | June 8, ,2005 | Vicki Mabrey

Posted on 06/11/2005 1:55:31 PM PDT by NYer

It doesn’t get much more peaceful than the simple life among the Amish in rural Ohio. They have no cars, no electricity, no televisions.

But their children have medical conditions so rare, doctors don’t have names for them yet, reports correspondent Vicki Mabrey.

The Amish make up only about 10 percent of the population in Geagua County in Ohio, but they’re half of the special needs cases. Three of the five Miller children, for example, have a mysterious crippling disease that has no name and no known cure.

Their father, Bob Miller, says he realizes there is a crisis in the community, which is why he and two other fathers, Irwin Kuhns and Robert Hershberger, have agreed to break a strict Amish rule that forbids them to appear on camera. The three sat for an informal interview.

The three Byler sisters were all born with a condition that has no cure and mysteriously leads to severe mental retardation and a host of physical problems. Last year, doctors figured out the girls have the gene for something called Cohen Syndrome; there are only 100 known cases worldwide.

Since then, more than a dozen other cases of Cohen’s have been discovered in Ohio Amish country.

“Nobody knew it was around here and we found, what, 20 to 30 cases in this area now that they didn't realize. Nobody knew about it, says Irwin Kuhn.

But for so many years, the Amish have had no names for these disorders. It was simply a mystery why half the headstones in Amish cemeteries were headstones of children.

The genetic problems come down to something called the "founder effect" because the nearly 150,000 Amish in America can trace their roots back to a few hundred German-Swiss settlers who brought the Amish and Mennonite faiths to the United States in the 18th century. Over generations of intermarriage, rare genetic flaws have shown up, flaws which most of us carry within our genetic makeup but which don't show up unless we marry someone else with the same rare genetic markers.

Kuhn and Miller admit these conditions have gotten more widespread in recent years. So much so that concerned families pulled together, held an auction and raised enough to build a clinic within buggy range of all the Amish. They also hired a pediatrician and researcher named Dr. Heng Wang to start caring for their children.

Kuhn’s daughter isn’t doing well at the moment, but now he can take her to the clinic every day, if needed, and the doctor has even made house calls at his home.

While 60 Minutes Wednesday was in Ohio, Dr. Wang made a house call to check on the Miller children. Bobby Junior, the sickest, can’t tell Wang what’s bothering him because he can’t even talk.

And the doctor was treating these challenging cases under the most rudimentary conditions since Amish custom prohibits electricity. Still, he doesn’t complain. In fact, he calls the heritage beautiful and says, “We are not come here to change them.”

Certain homes, like the Miller’s, have taken small steps toward change. Some with lifesaving medical equipment have asked for special dispensation from the Amish bishop to install solar panels to run the machines.

Iva Byler, mother of the three girls with Cohen Syndrome, made an even more drastic change eight years ago, after her third child in a row showed signs of this crippling disorder.

The eldest, Betty Ann, is 24 and functions at a 9-month level. Irma is 21 and functions as a 5-year-old; Linda, at age 18, can’t even sit up.

“I knew as soon as I had the third one, I knew,” she says. “They kept telling me, ‘No, she's OK. No, she wasn't. I could hear by her cry that she was gonna be like the others. Their cry is different. You can tell. After you've lived with it that long, you know.”


Now, when she needs to go to the doctor, she wheels the girls into her van. She’s left buggy rides, and the whole Amish lifestyle, behind. But the price was being shunned forever by the community, as well as her ex-husband and her two healthy adult children.


Irma’s now tuned in to the 20th century, and Iva’s plugged into the 21st. Using a genealogy web site, she’s figured out she and her ex-husband were distantly related, something that appears to be common among the Amish.

“I don't think the Amish really understand that it's a genetic disorder that causes the handicapping condition,” Byler says.

The Amish think it is God’s will; “Gottes Wille” is how they describe it.

Dr. Harold Cross, who’s from an Amish background himself, has heard that for more than 40 years, since he first discovered the high incidence of genetic problems in the Amish in the 1960s.

“Although we used state-of-the-art medical technology and genetics technology at the time,” he says, “we didn't know about the human genome. We weren't able to--to drill down and get to the specific molecular defects. So I always felt like we hadn't finished the job that we had started doing.”

He’s finishing the job now, learning by examining some of the children in Geauga County, Ohio, and teaming up with researchers in a London lab to find the actual genes that are causing the Amish disorders.

“What we're really trying to do eventually by pinning down the mutation is to find some kind of treatment,” he says. “If we can find out what went wrong, we might be able to correct it.”

They’ve already identified genes to several rare conditions, including this debilitating seizure disorder found in only 12 people worldwide, all Amish children.

There are no cures in sight yet, but these doctors are able to offer the next best thing: pre-marital testing, to help future parents avoid these tragedies.

It’s a powerful new tool for the Amish, if they choose to use it.

Despite the illnesses in his family, Miller would not use such tests. “That's our-- our lifestyle is that way. We-- we trust God to take care of that, you know? We just, just the way we—we - live.”

Joyce Brubacker, who comes from the slightly less-orthodox Mennonite faith, says at minimum the Amish and Mennonites should be testing their children as soon as they’re born. That’s what saved her daughter Shayla’s life. After her first child, Monte, died of an unusual-sounding genetic condition called Maple Syrup Urine Disease, Joyce had Shayla tested, and she was positive.

With Maple Syrup Urine Disease, the body turns protein into poison, causing brain damage. Shayla was immediately put on a strict low-protein diet. Now, she’s 20 years old and healthy.

If she had not been tested, Shayla says, “I probably would have been in a coma or died at that point, or had brain swelling which would have took me very dramatic. I mean it would just-- boom, boom, boom and I woulda been dead.”

Right now, the best prevention for many of these mutations is to prevent intermarriage, which is hard to do.

Marrying outside the faith could create a healthier gene pool, but it would also ultimately destroy the very essence of what it means to be Amish.

“I have a son that married a girl, they share the same great-great grandfather,” says Iva Byler. “And when he called me to tell me that he was gonna get married, I said, ‘Do you realize that you already stand a big chance to have a handicapped child since you have three siblings.’ And he says, ‘Yes, I know.’ He got married anyway.”


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KEYWORDS: 60minutes; amish; disorders; genetics; intermarriage; mennonites
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To: AnAmericanMother

I know a few Mennonites that are connected to Georgia. One family I know moved there years ago.
Yes, those were Mennos.


61 posted on 06/12/2005 1:16:25 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

Either way. Are you familiar with HD?


62 posted on 06/12/2005 1:19:17 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

None in my family, but I am relatively familiar with it from a medical historian's standpoint and from my interest in genetics.


63 posted on 06/12/2005 1:30:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Conservatrix
Well, how about that.

Learn something every day, if I'm lucky.

They looked like nice girls, they were youngish teenagers, maybe 14-16, and they were having a good time laughing and chatting and walking on the beach. (Would they have been shocked at all the abbreviated bathing attire, or do they just figure it's "those English" and their strange ways?) Funny to think that my 17 year old daughter, who is very modest by conventional standards and will only wear a one piece bathing suit, is probably considered completely abandoned by those girls . . .

64 posted on 06/12/2005 1:33:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

To be honest with you, I think they would have liked to have gone for a swim, but are forbidden by THE CHURCH...


65 posted on 06/12/2005 1:36:01 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Conservatrix
I guess they can tuck up their skirts and go wading, can't they, sort of like Victorian children paddling at the seaside?

Do they learn how to swim, though? Is (sex-segregated) attendance at the "old swimmin' hole" permitted?

66 posted on 06/12/2005 1:39:46 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I don't think the Hornings swim at all. One lady I know told me she had NEVER been in the water in her life. She was in her 50's.

Not sure about the others but the ones I know out here swim in their own private ponds and only let other Mennos come and swim, usually at segregated times. We used to go swimming at one Menno pond and there were certain hours for women/girls and young children and other hours for the boys/men.
AND NO SWIMSUITS. Some swam in their dresses, some made funny cape dress with bloomer legs.


67 posted on 06/12/2005 2:04:59 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: NYer

On a similar note I have a dear friend who was 'recruited' heavily to join a small Mormon community in the Idaho mountains. He was tall and strong, and they were honestly looking to widen and stengthen the gene pool. It was kind of scary in retrospect, but he got a lot of good free meals for about 6 months...


68 posted on 06/12/2005 2:10:49 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Conservatrix

I think everybody ought to know how to swim, purely as a self-preservation issue.


69 posted on 06/12/2005 2:38:03 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Coleus; NYer

Don't forget the most inbred bunch of goons in history: the royal families of Europe.


70 posted on 06/12/2005 6:19:12 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: John Locke

Don't forget the most inbred bunch of goons in history: the royal families of Europe. >>>

You're right about that. And don't forget their "god"
Rasputin, took care of some of their problems.


71 posted on 06/12/2005 7:49:17 PM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isiah 5:20-21)
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To: Conservatrix
Beware that some are getting rather liberal, accepting homosexuality, but for the most part they are still conservative.

That's just great. Interbreeding on the one extreme and homosexuality on the other. Not much of a future there, genetically speaking. Seriously, I think a problem with these insular, legalistic groups is pride. That, and a stubborness to accept change even when it makes sense. I don't know what the answer is when a group is so legalistic that legalism becomes their religion. Often in Christianity when a group becomes too legalistic, there will be a schism and people will go their separate ways (even if to form new legalistic groups). How does one begin to tell a group of people who all originated from the same 1,000 ancestors 400 years ago that they literally ARE wrong?

72 posted on 06/13/2005 3:20:12 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell
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To: Wilhelm Tell

The Mennonites that are extremely liberal are also NOT the ones who dress plain as I showed in my examples above. They dress in typical American modern clothing. They are more "peace and justice" types who are anti-war, into action for "the poor" and so on.

I intereviewed for a job as music director for a Church of the Brethren chuch last year. The Brethren also have anabaptist roots and some of the groups: German Baptist Brethren, Dunkard Brethren, and some Church of the Brethren churches in our area are still conservative in dress and beliefs. They would NOT condone homosexuality.

To make a long story short, my interview with that particular (liberal) Brethren church came to an abrupt conclusion when they informed me that they have a gay couple on their church board.... this was after I told them my position on homosexuality of course....


73 posted on 06/13/2005 5:50:29 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: NYer

Sad but most interesting dilemma.


74 posted on 06/13/2005 8:27:13 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: NYer

Th eproblem is not that the Amish are marrying overly close (i.e., first) cousins. It's that EVERYONE in their family trees are related.

So, let's say there's an different abnormal recessive genes you may carry. But only 1 in a thousand people have those abnormal genes. If you marry a random person to whom you are completely unrelated, YOu have only a 1 in 1000 chance of marrying someone with any one of the same abormal genes you have.

But if you marry your sister, she shares 50% of your genes. So you have a 50-50 chance of both of you passing on the same abnormal gene, in which casem your child would have no functional genes, and would then exhibit the abnormality.

If you marry your first cousin, she carries 25% of your genes. Your second cousin carries only 12.5% of your genes. Now that's getting reasonably safe. Your third cousin carries only 6.25% of your genes, and your fourth cousin, only 3.125% of your genes. Normally, that's a reasonably low risk.

But here's the problem with the Founder effect:

Let's say you marry a woman who is your third cousin. From that relationship, you pick up a 6.25% chance of sharing a damaging recessive gene. But she's a third cousin two different ways, so your risk is now 12.5%. And she's a fourth cousin six different ways. That's another 12.5% risk.
And she's your fifth cousin 20 different ways. And with every step removal, she's your cousin in more ways.

Now, I'm simplifying some math here. If you have 10 1-in-10 chances of an event happening, there is not a 100% chance the event happens. Random chances are linked, so it's not 10%+10%+10%..., but rather 1-(.9*.9*.9,....) So the further you go out (i.e., 12th cousin), the numbers quit simply halving themselves, and start becoming more and more less than half. Otherwise it'd be a certainty we'd all have every genetic ailment, since we're all related, and all our relatives are related, etc., etc.

But you see the problem with the founder's effect, no?


75 posted on 06/13/2005 9:29:30 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

76 posted on 06/13/2005 9:31:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: neverdem


77 posted on 06/26/2005 4:15:16 PM PDT by Coleus (God doesn't like moderates, Rev 3:15-16)
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To: NYer
The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly

The Age of Autism: Julia, part two

78 posted on 06/26/2005 4:15:55 PM PDT by Coleus (God doesn't like moderates, Rev 3:15-16)
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To: NYer

This is so sad. Good people by and large and now they deal with a problem without a solution. Unless they want to abandon their way of life and marry outside.


79 posted on 06/26/2005 4:28:18 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Coleus

Interesting thread!


80 posted on 06/26/2005 5:30:57 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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