WILLIAMS WRITES GRISWOLD AS HOB MEETS IN TEXAS

Virtuosity ^ | 20 March 2004 | David Virtue

[ahadams2]

WILLIAMS WRITES GRISWOLD AS HOB MEETS IN TEXAS

EXCLUSIVE REPORT

3/20/2004

By David W. Virtue

LONDON, UK- The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, Frank Griswold, has received a letter from Rowan Williams the Archbishop of Canterbury telling him to make significant compromises for ECUSA's orthodox, or face the possibility of schism without his support.

The letter, which Griswold received on the eve of the Camp Allen meeting of the House of Bishops was described by a Lambeth Palace source as "too hot to leak".

The strongly worded message to Griswold has yet to be read to the House of Bishops, but it is thought that Griswold will drop a paragraph or two during the HOB meeting.

A source told Virtuosity that the letter appears to support what the five retired bishops did in recent confirmations in the Diocese of Ohio.

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[ahadams2]

Ping.

[hellinahandcart]

Yay?

I never know what is good news and what isn't, where those two are concerned...

[AnAmericanMother]

Hmmmm.

Wonder what this signifies. Guess we'll find out when he reads it to the H of B.

[GOPrincess]

Sounds promising...

Thanks so much for your pings and keeping us easily apprised of developments.

[xJones]

The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, Frank Griswold, has received a letter from Rowan Williams the Archbishop of Canterbury telling him to make significant compromises for ECUSA's orthodox, or face the possibility of schism without his support.

Is that a serious A of C threat of no support, or just another attempt at staving off the inevitable? And if serious, what does 'the possibity of schism without his support' mean? Fuzzy Rowan sides with the African Anglicans?

And how significant is 'significant' Call off the heretic bishop dogs from stripping church property and endowments from orthodox parishes?

[mel]

Someone sent me 101 reasons not to forget about Episcopalians being heretics the other day. Among them the Penthouse article back in 90s with the ECUSA priests, drug use while preparing sermons, downright heretic statements, refusal of Episcopalian seminary teacher to capitalize C in Christianity because it was too insulting, refusal to use Lord to sexist among other things. After reading the list, I thought gee whiz who would want to be part of this group anyway.

[r9etb]

The timing is interesting, that's for sure. Williams is doing some interesting stuff these days -- it'll be interesting to see how the next couple of weeks shape up.

[r9etb]

And how significant is 'significant'

I think Williams wants a way out of this mess, and he's starting to get more decisive as things come to a head. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been getting strong back-channel warnings from the orthodox primates, and I've heard that there's pressure on him to issue some sort of statement in the near term. I don't know if this is "it," but it's certainly more than he's done to date.

[ahadams2]

Okay, first thing to remember is that frank the heretic & co operate almost totally in their own little universe - nothing anyone says or does which doesn't agree with what them has any validity whatsoever. That is the fundamental premise behind all of their statements and actions.

Second thing to remember is that rowan the fuzzy is well aware of the fact that, should the entire Anglican Communion suddenly fracture into a number of pieces, he will be held personally responsible for it occurring. Certainly HRH, the PM, and so forth can't burn him at the stake; but they *can* insure that his influence and reputation will be, uhm, I believe the polite term is "substantially diminished". So, despite his personal preferences far to the contrary, rowan is no forced into a position of being required to sharply discipline ecusa (and probably the wacko portions of the Canadians as well); even though doing so will effectively remove somewhere around half of the funding of the Anglican Communion as a whole. The *only* and I mean *only* way out of this quandry is if frank and company give our side everything we want...which of course frank and company are not willing to do under any circumstances. Maalox concession for Lambeth Palace, anyone? :-)

[ahadams2]

er that was supposed to be "is NOW forced to take..." rather than 'is no forced to take"

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, I hope that means that orthodox believers - wherever they are - get some support and protection from the vengeance of headquarters. The real proof of the pudding will be if the bishop here puts the hammer down on Our Saviour. I don't know the extent to which Griswold would be willing or able to prevent that.

Sadly, at this point it's academic for my family, especially since we (were) in the High wing. The situation is so bad here that we have left the church. I pray most sincerely for all orthodox Episcopalians and hope that they find a way out of this horrible situation.

[xJones]

Okay, first thing to remember is that frank the heretic & co operate almost totally in their own little universe - nothing anyone says or does which doesn't agree with what them has any validity whatsoever. That is the fundamental premise behind all of their statements and actions.

Yes, it's an Alice in Wonderland world, or a Gay Day in Disney World time for them.

even though doing so will effectively remove somewhere around half of the funding of the Anglican Communion as a whole.

The 'bottom' line comes down to money. In other words, this isn't about the Christian Church, this is about a gay leadership group hijacking a major Christian denomination. And the current Archbishop of Canterbury is a very weak reed to lean on.

[ahadams2]

absolutely right on the first try!

[xJones]

Have you ever considered becoming a Southern Baptist?

[ahadams2]

hmm, not unless there's a liturgical and sacramental arm of the SBC ...which I kinda doubt... :-)