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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi

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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Gamecock; HarleyD; RnMomof7; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; jude24; ...
Maybe it should tell you that Calvinist threads get pulled very quickly, and so we look around to see where fellow believers unite, or where alternative positions are discussed, or where interesting conversation is being conducted, or where there's something to be learned, or where there's a joke or two to enjoy...

Yeeesh, you guys are really exclusive. Like a country club that refuses Jewish members.

Sometimes threads are all talk about topics, and that's great.

But sometimes threads are all about talking about the threads, and that's a waste of time. Sorry for my part in the latter.

3,401 posted on 04/11/2004 4:59:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: CindyDawg
I have no idea what it takes to get a thread shut down nor have I've contacted or been contacted by anyone (either the monitor or others) about my behavior or shutting down this thread.

Personally I don't see anything in the posts (I haven't gone through all of them) that seems offensive enough to warrent shutting down this thread.
3,402 posted on 04/11/2004 4:59:55 PM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: malakhi
They don't say that God has to be fair; they say that God is fair.
Since you disagree with how I read those passages, perhaps you can define what you mean by "fair".

No they say He is faithful , and indeed He is to His word and His promises.

What is Fair? Fair would not have been slaughtering people just because they were on land that he wanted to give to Israel.

Fair is not playing favorites like he did when he gave the birthright to Jacob..

Fair is not giving one nation a way to atone for sin and leaving the others in their polytheistic religion that are an abomination to Him.

Fair is giving the higher wage to a man that worked all day in the field and not treating them all the same

Fair is having mercy on all people , not just who He wants to have mercy on.

3,403 posted on 04/11/2004 5:02:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Gamecock
"Covenant" implies an agreement freely entered into by both parties. Once the covenant was accepted, then it was binding.

Did Abraham enter into a covenant with God , or did he sleep through it?

3,404 posted on 04/11/2004 5:07:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Maybe you don't realize it but guys do ping them a lot. No one may have reported your friends. We like to stay under the radar and work out our own problems. If the mods kept getting pinged maybe they stayed awhile to watch what was going on and saw the posts. Who knows, maybe one of them is Polish:')
3,405 posted on 04/11/2004 5:08:08 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: HarleyD
I think we are all gun shy. Thanks for the response. So you gonna stick around too? :')
3,406 posted on 04/11/2004 5:11:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg; Gamecock
It gets better lol. This is his thread. Just because he doesn't believe NT scripture doesn't assume he doesn't know it. He's ready to go once he gets the "accepting" part down :')

No Cindy if He knew the scriptures he would not have walked away ....as the Rabbi Paul noted

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Cr 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1Cr 1:20 Where [is] the wise? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Cr 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1Cr 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

1Cr 1:23   But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

     2Cr 4:3   But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

1Cr 2:14   But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

You are too easily impressed

3,408 posted on 04/11/2004 5:16:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: CindyDawg; Gamecock
It gets better lol. This is his thread. Just because he doesn't believe NT scripture doesn't assume he doesn't know it. He's ready to go once he gets the "accepting" part down :')

No Cindy if He knew the scriptures he would not have walked away ....as the Rabbi Paul noted

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Cr 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1Cr 1:20 Where [is] the wise? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Cr 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1Cr 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

1Cr 1:23   But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

     2Cr 4:3   But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

1Cr 2:14   But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

You are too easily impressed

3,409 posted on 04/11/2004 5:16:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: CindyDawg
Dr. E was sent to the Jews and HarleyD to the Catholics. However someone pinged me on this (not a Calvinist) so I guess I'll hang around. :O)
3,410 posted on 04/11/2004 5:19:50 PM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
It pisses me off that I can't get you to see the truth of the matter, and I can't reach thru the computer screen and slap you around. :) BigMack

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

If he is meant to hear he will ...

3,411 posted on 04/11/2004 5:23:03 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Maybe it should tell you that Calvinist threads get pulled very quickly, and so we look around to see where fellow believers unite, or where alternative positions are discussed, or where interesting conversation is being conducted, or where there's something to be learned, or where there's a joke or two to enjoy...

Actually, if you read back a few days you will see that some of the other Calvinists say that a Christian wouldn't hang out here.

As for getting banned. I've noticed that on "Catholic threads" they moan and complain about how JimRob is quick to ban Catholics and let anti-Catholics get away with FAR more. On the Calvinist threads they moan and complain about how JimRob is quick to ban Calvinists and let everyone else get away with FAR more. Here I've seen the NC's (and a few others) moan the same way about how pro-catholic the mods obviously are. Or perhaps "anti-NES" posters get away with everything.

I think they're all missing the point. It's the whole "mote/plank" thing. I suspect the mods have pretty plain-vanilla rules for civil discourse and people are too blind to see when they cross those (very reasonable) lines. This isn't the "free speech public street corner", it's a political website that consents to have it's regular members carry on other discussions. If people can't play within the rules, fin d a new game.

3,412 posted on 04/11/2004 5:25:51 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
Yes it is finished..all that will be saved were saved on the cross, The proof of that is Christ was raised, the sacrifice was acceptable to the Father. . There is an old testament example of this truth. In the high priests sacrifices .
3,413 posted on 04/11/2004 5:27:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: CindyDawg
You didn't like my humor?:)


Come play on DD!
3,414 posted on 04/11/2004 5:28:59 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: JubelLee
So can anybody post here, or just some people?

Welcome to the thread!

Yes, of course, anyone can post here. Just maintain an appropriate level of respect for others (not "accept that everyone's beliefs are equally valid") and you'll find it a wonderful place to spend a little time.

What's your background?

3,415 posted on 04/11/2004 5:29:32 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: JubelLee
Is that you sweety!:)
3,416 posted on 04/11/2004 5:30:08 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: JubelLee
Yea! Nnot enough bones too many dogs!
3,419 posted on 04/11/2004 5:32:15 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: RnMomof7
Yes it is finished..all that will be saved were saved on the cross, The proof of that is Christ was raised, the sacrifice was acceptable to the Father. . There is an old testament example of this truth. In the high priests sacrifices.

So the sacrifice is complete BEFORE (in our time frame) it is applied or found acceptable?

3,420 posted on 04/11/2004 5:32:24 PM PDT by IMRight
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