THE RECALL! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Oct. 8 2003 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

[carlo3b]

THE RECALL! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

A TRUE CAUSE FOR ALARM, if you are an extremist, that is...

The final count and voting results of the California election may not be known for a few days or weeks, but the underlining meaning of the outcome has begun to resonate with the people that are paid to read the tea leaves .. and you may be surprised at the historic conclusions.

As the exit polling results were being tabulated, and it became obvious that the outcome was an unmistakable landslide, the tenor of the analysis began to change..  Listening to the talking heads, I couldn't help but wonder how the losers where going to try to spin the facts.. The fact was the people of California spoke their mind, in a clear and concise voice, that they had had enough! Enough, was the wakening of the American Spirit of. .FREEDOM!

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
-Abraham Lincoln

In a near singular voice, and with ramifications aside, the people said they were lied to once too often, and that a politician that lies to them with impunity, does so at their political peril. Once again in our recent memory.. much the same as did Prop # 13.. with California's Constitution, Article 2 Voting, Initiative and Referendum.
THE SUNRISE OF POLITICAL FREEDOM, DEFIED NATURE AND ROSE FROM THE WEST..

  "Freedom is that instant between when someone tells you to do something and when you decide how to respond."
-Dr. Jeffrey Borenstein 

The awakening has begun in some circles, but unfortunately not where it could do the most good.. the political poles! What this message said, could be argued in public forever, but not in the back rooms where the gurus have to bare their souls.. Left wing Liberals, and Right wing Conservatives are being told the facts of life today, and they had better pay attention.

True Conservatives can be a somewhat disappointed today, but not as much as they believe.. Their choice of Tom McClintock was validated in the actions and the voting outcome in yesterdays election. The candidate once again lived up to his billing as an honest man, as he did not sellout his word under pressure from friends or foes.

  "The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don't know what to do."
-John Holt

That principled position is slowly coming back into vogue, and impressed far more people than it would have, if the difference in the final count would have swayed the outcome. As it was, this fine man will now become a more formidable candidate against his next opponent, perhaps Senator Barbara Boxer, someone with whom principles have little or no relevance after her defense of Clinton's serial offences .. I will get back to her hero momentarily.

  "When you choose your friends, don't be short-changed by choosing personality over character."
-W. Somerset Maugham 

Republicans, have mixed emotions at best today, rejoicing at the defeat of a true Liberal Democrat trophy, but with the proviso that the day was carried by a socially moderate Hollywood type, and political neophyte. This is a wonderful lesson to learn for the future of this party and the betterment of our Country. Most Republicans that voted, closed ranks with their moderate brethren, at the detriment of their political enemies, taking away a victory where defeat was eminent.. Pragmatism was not a sellout in this case, it was a step in the right direction in getting a place at the table where future meals are sure to be more palatable.. a little FOOD lingo.. but I digress...

 "When all is lost, why do so many people, like Antony and Cleopatra, commit suicide? Would it not be more courageous to live and fight on?"
-Shakespeare

Republicans should feel relieved and proud to have a man, Arnold Schwarzenegger, warts and all, to face the challenges of the disaster that has befallen California, as the people with grant him a much wider birth than a person that claims to have the answers by virtue of years of public service and  the credentials to match. Solving the problems that are so well ingrained in the fabric of life will need a terminator to overcome.. with such a low bar set by his enemies he has little chance of falling short..

The Republican Party, could do a whole lot worst than associate with a wildly successful businessman, an immigrant from such humble beginnings, that has clawed his way to the very top of everything he has attempted, without federal help, or taxpayer money. He smiled at his partisan advisories, which were vigorously aided by a supposed free press, and beat them with his strength of his personal character, not only his broad shoulders.

  "The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away.
-Ronald Reagan

The Candidate Schwarzenegger, now Governor Elect, has brought together a coalition of people never dreamed of in a party that  has been tarred at the very least, as heartless.  And with his star power, one can see into a possible future for bigger battles yet to come. Lastly, with regard to conservatives, there are more components to this victory that are lurking in the background than meets the eye.. virtues in this victory are abundant!

  "The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
-Thomas Paine

The Left wing of the Democrat Party has lost the trust of the people of the State Of California in overwhelming numbers, and perhaps so much more than anyone on their side of the isle would like to admit. In an unprecedented show of political force by the highest levels of the Democrat power brokers, the liberals lost.. BIG.  Some of their safest constituencies, women, latinos, immigrants, moderates, union workers, and laborers, rejected the old Search and Destroy tactics, which have always been so successful in the past. Those despicable antics were actually the basis of a backlash, which may have been the building up in the craw of more than few.

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
-Abraham Lincoln

The biggest loser in this entire fiasco was none other than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Her celebrity and that of her Icon husband, former President Wm. J. Clinton were challenged in both prestige and power, and found once again to be wanting. With the former President and his powerful political machine in full throttle, they guided a multi million dollar campaign. And with the assistance of a national, state, local, Corporate, Union, and Media allies at hand, with a incumbent to merely defend, all they were asked to do was to stave off a novice Hail Mary play by a band of rabble in a political sense.. and they lost in a landslide. Not a good sign!

Who can say, because we are already beginning to hear it, that this is further evidence that all the Clinton's have become is selfish, and bullies. Their legendary fundraising abilities have been overshadowed by the cost of their participation in siphoning the energy and spotlight at any venue they ingratiate..

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
-Lord Acton 

When it is her turn at bat, nationally, and when she attempt to call in the chits, many behind the scenes are whispering that their bodies may come running, but their hearts may take a hike. The days of absolute dominance over this party may be waning, and if and when the dancers refuse to dance... as Barbara Olson, one of the wisest women of our time wrote regarding Hillary and her rage, there will be, Hell To Pay!

  "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
-William Congreve, "The Mourning Bride"

The Left Wing Liberals.. are the next to take a major hit.. and they won't take this criticism laying down either. The GAY agenda has left.. need we say it, a bad taste.. in the mouths of the body politic. This may not have become so apparent as with their new found bold and blatant attack on the institution of Marriage. The Homosexual activists, a very small but loud and politically powerful constituency, has captured the Democrat Party in a way that no one can remember or control.

This has put the party in a somewhat uncomfortable position being at odds with other vital voting blocks that are more traditional in their own family values, Hispanics, Asians, Moderates, and even Blacks.. These groups find themselves as unusual allies with Social conservatives, a dangerous dilemma for the Democrats. The attempt to paint the new Governor Schwarzenegger as pro Gay makes a wonderful pre election wedge issue, but in reality isn't what they want. Arnold is ambivalent to the Gays and will not ever be his platform issue, Gray Davis, and Cruz were advocates and promoters.. and that is the ultimate loss, and will drop them to second stringers..

Their core voters and the Right Wing is an unholy alliance, as the liberals call it, is further aided by the Left's unorthodox hatred of the Almighty and everything touching HIM. Those same offended groups are once again looking to the Republican Party to save their souls. This will soon come home to roost if they lose any more.
Add to all of this the same constituencies are deeply divided with the unconscionable position of partial birth abortion. These and many other factors all contributed to the weakening of the grip on normal people..

"We were a silent, hidden thought in the folds of oblivion, and we have become a voice that causes the heavens to tremble."
-Kahlil Gibran, "Children of Gods, Scions of Apes"

Education, and public schools are miserable failures, and the most dependable and major political media pawns, the inner city poor, have just about had it with the Left's slavish devotion to the wealthy NEA, at the sacrifice of the poorest children. This insidious practice has kept the poverty stricken in the deepest of despair.. but not forever..
It is becoming all to obvious that dumbing down is causing a backup in the courts and court of public opinion.

  "The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."
-John W. Gardner

Finally, taxes and fees.. There is a strange phenomenon if the government that continues to grow the funding has to keep up with demand. The two inevitable foes finally crashed head-on in a car tax.. Nothing will ever be quite the same again..

  "The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson
 

[S.O.L.]

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Thomas Jefferson

[RightWingMama]

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[OC_Steve]

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[CobaltBlue]

80% of Catholics think abortion should be legal in some circumstances, as do 90% of Protestants. On that issue, that's quite a majority.

The majority of Americans (about 70%) think that homosexuality should be legal and that homosexuals should not be discriminated against, but also not have special rights. About 90% think homosexuality should be decriminalized. Again, quite a majority.

[Reagan Renaissance]

The Declaration of Indepedence was rendered a dead letter by the first Republican president.

Mr. Lincoln settled the issue for the 1860's to the extent that "might makes right", at least for a while. The pen is still mightier than the sword, and "write" will be "right" in the end. It will take less than 150 years to prove Lincoln wrong, and the "writ"ing of the Declaration will once again prove to be "right".

[E Rocc]

Republicans, have mixed emotions at best today, rejoicing at the defeat of a true Liberal Democrat trophy, but with the proviso that the day was carried by a socially moderate Hollywood type, and political neophyte.

An expression that could have been used in 1966.

-Eric

[Gunslingr3]

Mr. Lincoln settled the issue for the 1860's to the extent that "might makes right", at least for a while. The pen is still mightier than the sword, and "write" will be "right" in the end. It will take less than 150 years to prove Lincoln wrong, and the "writ"ing of the Declaration will once again prove to be "right".

My own hope is that the collapse of America's experiment with socialism need not be as severe economically as the Soviet Union's. I wouldn't mind a peaceful breakup so long as free trade between the States is maintained. Even a return to a federal republic of States would be fine, if a device to limit government could be fashioned. The first has failed from sheer ignorance and greed.

[dsc]

"My point is that fiscally conservative/socially liberal, small "l" libertarian IS the center these days."

And my point is that it's not. The center is objective, not mutable. Merely staking out a position on the far left and calling it "the center" doesn't make it so.

"The majority of Americans think the same way I do about the topics I mentioned."

Which only goes to show that the mainstream has been dragged way to the left.

"80% of Catholics think abortion should be legal in some circumstances"

I don't believe that 80% of Catholics think that it's okay to murder babies under some circumstances, but if it is true, it only goes to show how corrupted by leftism they have become.

"The majority of Americans (about 70%) think that homosexuality should be legal and that homosexuals should not be discriminated against"

Which only goes to show how corrupted by leftism they have become.

"but also not have special rights."

When people suffering from a disorder with psychological, emotional, and spiritual components that makes them dangerous to themselves and others demand that they be treated as though they were perfectly healthy, and that the potential victims of their disordered, destructive, and often criminal behavior not be protected from them, that IS a demand for special rights.

"Again, quite a majority."

Well, there was only one righteous man in the whole city of Sodom. Right and wrong are not matters to be decided by majority vote.

[Howie]

"Every problem has a solution that is obvious, and quite often wrong" author forgotten

"If the solution is truly counterproductive it will be embraced by all liberals as gospel." (Howie)

EG, Need more revenue, just raise taxes!

Too much murder, disarm the peaceful.

Need more energy, pass some more restrictions on energy producers.

Too many illegals, make them legal

Too many neglected kids,raise taxes so mom and pop both must work.

[CobaltBlue]

Right and wrong are not matters to be decided by majority vote.

Sour grapes. If the rest of the country was willing to vote your way, you'd revel in it. And if you had the power to ram your version of morality down everybody else's throats, you'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Publius6961]

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
-Mark Twain

Not when it's unplanned and unexpected.

There be a serious message there.

[Publius6961]

The majority of Americans (about 70%) think that homosexuality should be legal and that homosexuals should not be discriminated against, but also not have special rights.

You are delusional.
"Facts" like these, repeated often enough, used to be a very effective tool for propagandists.
That doesn't work any more.

[CobaltBlue]

You are delusional. "Facts" like these, repeated often enough, used to be a very effective tool for propagandists. That doesn't work any more.

*Snort.* That must be why Arnold lost and McClintock won?

[LexBaird]

The man has three (?) years to perform the tasks of Hercules, the role he was born for all along.

Have you ever seen "Hercules in New YorK"? One of Arnold's really early roles, and one that ranks (and I do mean RANK) down there with "Plan 9 From Outer Space".

[Reagan Renaissance]

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

This is a variation on the theme that the majority is almost always wrong; and in the few cases when the majority is right, it's almost always for the wrong reasons.

Great article. Ronald Reagan's two elections and the 1994 Congressional elections based on the Contract with America represented a tectonic shift in American politics. The Democrats have gotten the message much more quickly and maybe more convincingly than the Republicans. The growing influence of RINO's and the decline in influence of genuine conservatives in the Republican party is proof that Republicans as a group have not yet gotten the whole message. The Democratic panic and disorganization of the Democrats is evidence that the Democrats have gotten the message and are approaching pure hysteria, if not schizophrenia.

I think the actions of DiFi and Boxer will be the major clue of how and when the Clinton's are going to make their last stand. In the next few months, if we see an announcement by Boxer or DiFi that they are going to run against Arnold in 2006, then Hillary is going in 2004. My guess is that it will be Boxer and DiFi will be Hillary's running mate. They simply cannot win the Whitehouse in the electoral college without Kalifornia, and if they are going in 2004 as I suspect, they will leave no stone unturned to put Kalifornia back in their camp.

The Clinton's are not stupid. They know how polarizing Hillary's candidacy will be. I don't think they can afford to put a man on the ticket with her. And they will only run her in 2004, if they see the economy in worse shape next year than in 2008. They also face the very real challenge that Rudy might decide to run against her in 2006 just for the fun of it. If his health is good, and he wants to have some fun, this would be great sport for him. Rudy might not be the only formidable foe she could face in NY.

The current market and economic rebound is based on massive stimulus from Greenspan and Bush's tax cuts kicking in together. The lift could last another quarter, two at the most. The basic fundamentals that underlie the economy are not sound. The rebound will fade or worse. Like it or not, Hillary will have the economy as an issue for next year's election. If the market crashes, the ensuing depression could make the economy the determining issue.

How would another successful major or series of lesser terrorist attacks play out? I don't think the public will be fooled by Hillary or any other Democrat, but the media can be counted to portray both the War on Terroism and Homeland Security as failures if we should experience a successful major attack and will view a series of minor attacks as at least cause for suspicion. These areas are not intended as discussions about the outcome of a Hillary versus Bush election, but rather as background for whether Hillary will go in 2004 or wait until 2008.

Finally, there is her own ego and how bad she wants it versus how long is she willing to wait to get it. Every time she tried to take the limelight from Bill, she couldn't take the exposure and the heat. She ended up retreating to the shadows. If her exposure as Senator from NY is enough of an ego trip to hold her, she might decide to be patient rather than chance defeat. But I don't think there is any chance that she is going to wait until life passes her by and her time came and went without her trying to grab the brass ring.

Bill, Hill, et al are clearly very astute political judges and they have a great feel of how, when and where to test the waters. As Chef carlo3b points out, California has put a bad taste in their mouth. Biting on Davis was a mistake a major mistake of the kind that they don't often make. My guess is that they are going to assume that it was something they ate, and not that the waters have been poisoned. Boxer and Feinstein are the servers and will be telling us what is on the menu. Listen up.

[dsc]

"Sour grapes. If the rest of the country was willing to vote your way, you'd revel in it. And if you had the power to ram your version of morality down everybody else's throats, you'd do it in a heartbeat."

Lame and malicious.

Of course I'd be happy if the rest of the country got their heads and their hearts in the right place. But whether they do or they don't has no effect on the nature of right and wrong.

As for "forcing things down (peoples') throats," people advocating your positions are just as guilty of that as anyone. And that's how a republic works--people lobby for the laws they want to see, and vote for people they think likely to enact them.

And that's how child labor laws got forced down the throats of big business, how bigamy laws got forced down the throats of the Mormons, how statutory rape laws got forced down the throats of chicken hawks and pedophiles, how laws against dueling got forced down the throats of people who thought dueling a beneficial social institution, how speed limits got forced down the throats of people who like to drive fast, how legalization of baby killing got forced down the throats of people who abhor it, how laws requiring men to support their children got forced down the throats of men who want to live a life of irresponsible promiscuity, and how laws transgressing against freedom of association (such as laws forbidding discrimination on the basis of race, color, creed, sex, and mental disorder) got forced down the throat of a supposedly free society.

What? Oh, you favor some of those laws, don't you?

Well, in a republic, those who oppose you have as much right to complain about you forcing your morality down their throats as anyone else, and as much right to work against your agenda as you have to work against theirs.

More, actually, since right is right and therefore has a right to exist, while wrong is wrong and therefore has no right to exist.

[Budge]

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[CobaltBlue]

Maybe I am wrong, but I think Carlo's point is that the election of Arnold should be a lesson to Republicans, too.

There are plenty of Republicans who'd rather Gray Davis was still governor, or that Bustamonte won, rather than Schwarzenegger.

I know, ya'll think he's a RINO, but I think he's the new face of the Republican party. Republicans have to stop eating our own.

Republicans are so used to being on the outside that they don't know what to do with themselves when they win. That's got to change, too.

If you insist that abortion should be outlawed completely, and homosexuality, too, and insist on making these positions a litmust test for candidates, you're going to lose.