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Gen. Shelton shocks Celebrity Forum, says he won't support Clark for president
Los Altos online ^ | 09/23/03

Posted on 09/24/2003 3:32:06 AM PDT by jaykay

Retired General H. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11, shared his recollection of that day and his views of the war against terrorism with the Foothill College Celebrity Forum audience at Flint Center, Sept. 11 and 12.

His review of that historic event and his 38 years in the military kept the audience's rapt attention throughout. But it was his answer to a question from the audience at the end that shocked his listeners.

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Shelton was on a 757 en route to Budapest for a conference when he learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Knowing that New York had perfect weather and there were no computer problems, he determined that it was a terrorist attack and immediately turned the plane around.

Shelton's 38 years in the military included two years in Vietnam and service in the 173rd Airborne Brigade and Green Berets. In addition to having been an adviser to the president and a member of the National Security Council, he has been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the Purple Heart and six Distinguished Service Medals. He has been decorated by 15 foreign governments and knighted by Queen Elizabeth.

His 6-foot-6-inch military bearing and commanding presence at the Celebrity Forum belied his recent personal battle. Only months after his retirement, following 400 parachute jumps from 30,000 feet, the former special ops soldier fell from a ladder outside his home, landed with his head caught in a chain-link fence and was partially paralyzed from the neck down.

The doctor told Shelton he would never walk or use his hands again. Shelton said he checked the doctor's name tag for "God"; he didn't see it. Eighty-four days later he walked out on his own, and he is now close to 100 percent recovered. The unfortunate experience taught him an invaluable lesson -- "the importance of faith, family and friends when the chips are down."

Three days after Shelton took office as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, his commitment to the integrity of the military was tested. When U.S. planes in the Iraq no-fly zone were attacked, a member of Congress suggested that perhaps "we" could fly a U-2 spy plane so low over Iraq that it could easily get hit. Then we'd have a reason "to kick Saddam out of Iraq." After Shelton responded that he would order that "just as soon as you are qualified to fly (it)," he was not asked again to compromise his office.

"Sometimes people in a position of power lose perspective on right and wrong," Shelton said.

The events of 9/11 were not a surprise to Shelton. He had been concerned because the United States offers a vulnerable target-rich environment. Two areas continue to worry him. First, a cyber-attack on air control, water, 911, financial or other nationwide systems could "bring us to our knees." Second, the use of weapons of mass destruction, even small amounts of sarin gas, anthrax germs, bio-attacks, continues to be a dangerous threat. Their deployment had been planned for the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, but al-Qaeda ordered the attack before they were in place.

In order to deal with the ongoing danger, the United States must "continue to go after terrorists," he said. "Bush has maintained the pressure and earned kudos in spite of the criticism."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; generalhughshelton; generalshelton; hughshelton; jcs; weasely; wesleyclark; wesleykanne
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To: jaykay
"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Oh, man, this is just too rich. What a great man. This shows the difference between loosers like KlintonButtKisser Klark and General Shelton. Great comments.

61 posted on 09/24/2003 10:43:00 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: jaykay
bump again
62 posted on 09/24/2003 10:51:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Do you have a link on this story, or did you witness first hand?

fascinating!

Prairie
63 posted on 09/24/2003 10:53:09 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I have dozens of great taglines in my attic. I just can't climb up to get them.)
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To: TontoKowalski
One thing is for sure. He is neither beloved nor respected.

Which makes him a perfect tool for the Clintons to use and discard. The 'stalking horse' theory gains credence daily.

64 posted on 09/24/2003 10:53:20 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Shermy
fyi
65 posted on 09/24/2003 10:53:29 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Dog; Peach; PhiKapMom
Ping to post #60 --- FWIW

And thanks for the pings to this article

Prairie
66 posted on 09/24/2003 10:55:32 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I have dozens of great taglines in my attic. I just can't climb up to get them.)
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To: tkathy
Well, I didn't hear them saying anything about their commander in chief, Klintoon. I guess they really can't, but it would have been nice to have heard something from the horse's mouth then.
67 posted on 09/24/2003 10:56:54 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Stormin Norman campaigned and made telephone ads for President Bush in 2000!
68 posted on 09/24/2003 10:59:48 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
What did he say that got that response? Is it what you laid out here or something else?
69 posted on 09/24/2003 11:00:38 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Again, wow! Thanks for the info. I didn't hear diddle about that from the lamestream media.
70 posted on 09/24/2003 11:04:09 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: jaykay
"I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart."

Just guessing, but dollars to doughnuts it's this.

71 posted on 09/24/2003 11:08:13 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: prairiebreeze
first hand
72 posted on 09/24/2003 11:10:13 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam, As Bad As He Was, Did Not Have Taepodong-2 Nuke ICBMs Capable Of Hitting The USA and Japan)
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To: CatoRenasci
...there's something pretty bad lurking there in the Balkan cesspool. I also can't figure out what it is, but if Shelton says it was character and integrity, I am inclined to believe him. What I don't understand is why Clark thinks it won't come out.

His involvement with Waco, his attempt to start WWIII, his constant 180's on the war in Iraq, and other issues have already come to light. Without Free Republic and Fox News, I'd have missed these little details as the mainstream sure isn't talking. When that nasty skeleton rears its ugly head, only those seeking knowledge will hear it.

73 posted on 09/24/2003 11:12:18 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Marysecretary
"And New York is low on resources. Very low. They even had to IMPORT from Arkansas for one of their Senators." He also said, as a receptive joke, "I am NOT in the field of Democratic presidential challengers." (Paraphrase)
74 posted on 09/24/2003 11:13:12 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam, As Bad As He Was, Did Not Have Taepodong-2 Nuke ICBMs Capable Of Hitting The USA and Japan)
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To: LibWhacker
This is all coming together. The timing and nuances are very intriguing.

Schwarzkopf's speech yesterday was almost exclusively based on INTEGRITY and CHARACTER and doing what is RIGHT.

And he Bashed NIXON and CLINTON as being liars. I think he went as far as he could without saying Clark by name, but it is very very curious he chose this topic and in the same breath, basically endorsed the work that Bush is doing, that when the nation was attacked, he immediately did "rule 13". "Took charge."

I would guess there is a circle of generals who will be coming out more and more against "Clark" for various reasons, including performance and ethical behavior.

75 posted on 09/24/2003 11:17:10 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam, As Bad As He Was, Did Not Have Taepodong-2 Nuke ICBMs Capable Of Hitting The USA and Japan)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
...he fired one helluva heat-seeking missile up the tailpipe of one Senator Clinton from New York....

He sure did! Thanks for the report.

76 posted on 09/24/2003 11:18:22 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Mo1
Thankful bump.
77 posted on 09/24/2003 11:18:58 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: jaykay
I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues

That says it all for me!! Clinton's boy, Hilly's toy.

78 posted on 09/24/2003 11:20:30 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: OldCorps
We always exempted real questions from spring buttism.

A real question isn't a speech and it isn't an opportunity to show how damn bright a question you can ask.
79 posted on 09/24/2003 11:28:43 AM PDT by xzins (How shall they hear?)
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To: Miss Marple
MSNBC just read Shelton's comments on air!
80 posted on 09/24/2003 11:30:41 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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