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Gen. Shelton shocks Celebrity Forum, says he won't support Clark for president
Los Altos online ^ | 09/23/03

Posted on 09/24/2003 3:32:06 AM PDT by jaykay

Retired General H. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11, shared his recollection of that day and his views of the war against terrorism with the Foothill College Celebrity Forum audience at Flint Center, Sept. 11 and 12.

His review of that historic event and his 38 years in the military kept the audience's rapt attention throughout. But it was his answer to a question from the audience at the end that shocked his listeners.

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Shelton was on a 757 en route to Budapest for a conference when he learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Knowing that New York had perfect weather and there were no computer problems, he determined that it was a terrorist attack and immediately turned the plane around.

Shelton's 38 years in the military included two years in Vietnam and service in the 173rd Airborne Brigade and Green Berets. In addition to having been an adviser to the president and a member of the National Security Council, he has been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the Purple Heart and six Distinguished Service Medals. He has been decorated by 15 foreign governments and knighted by Queen Elizabeth.

His 6-foot-6-inch military bearing and commanding presence at the Celebrity Forum belied his recent personal battle. Only months after his retirement, following 400 parachute jumps from 30,000 feet, the former special ops soldier fell from a ladder outside his home, landed with his head caught in a chain-link fence and was partially paralyzed from the neck down.

The doctor told Shelton he would never walk or use his hands again. Shelton said he checked the doctor's name tag for "God"; he didn't see it. Eighty-four days later he walked out on his own, and he is now close to 100 percent recovered. The unfortunate experience taught him an invaluable lesson -- "the importance of faith, family and friends when the chips are down."

Three days after Shelton took office as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, his commitment to the integrity of the military was tested. When U.S. planes in the Iraq no-fly zone were attacked, a member of Congress suggested that perhaps "we" could fly a U-2 spy plane so low over Iraq that it could easily get hit. Then we'd have a reason "to kick Saddam out of Iraq." After Shelton responded that he would order that "just as soon as you are qualified to fly (it)," he was not asked again to compromise his office.

"Sometimes people in a position of power lose perspective on right and wrong," Shelton said.

The events of 9/11 were not a surprise to Shelton. He had been concerned because the United States offers a vulnerable target-rich environment. Two areas continue to worry him. First, a cyber-attack on air control, water, 911, financial or other nationwide systems could "bring us to our knees." Second, the use of weapons of mass destruction, even small amounts of sarin gas, anthrax germs, bio-attacks, continues to be a dangerous threat. Their deployment had been planned for the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, but al-Qaeda ordered the attack before they were in place.

In order to deal with the ongoing danger, the United States must "continue to go after terrorists," he said. "Bush has maintained the pressure and earned kudos in spite of the criticism."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; generalhughshelton; generalshelton; hughshelton; jcs; weasely; wesleyclark; wesleykanne
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To: OldCorps
Excellent post.
141 posted on 09/24/2003 3:34:13 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: randog
Which makes him a perfect tool for the Clintons to use and discard. The 'stalking horse' theory gains credence daily.

I beleive the Clinton's plan is to push Clark very hard to become the party's nominee. If he gets it, they will immediately leak all the dirt they have on him, forcing him to withdraw at which time Hillary rides in to save the day for the Dems.

Sounds kinda familiar, doesn't it.

142 posted on 09/24/2003 3:36:58 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the ping, PKM!
143 posted on 09/24/2003 3:36:58 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: Trust but Verify
I think Hillary will ride in before the nomination, but the result will be the same in the end.
144 posted on 09/24/2003 3:39:17 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: PhiKapMom; All
Haven't read the entire thread yet, but this is an ABSOLUTE READ as well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985403/posts
145 posted on 09/24/2003 3:41:23 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: jaykay
"character and integrity issues"...straight from the horse's mouth.

Who could ever trust Clark, Clinton intimate, Butcher of Kosovo, personification of evil?

Are Democrats so stupid as to choose this person as their candidate?
146 posted on 09/24/2003 4:06:58 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Bump and bookmark for later read and reference.
147 posted on 09/24/2003 4:35:36 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Tell me if it was on all the alphabet news.

I did catch a glimpse of Wolf Blitzed this evening and he made an oblique reference to the fact that when Clark announced he had NO ONE present from his former military career. No other comments, just those few words.

148 posted on 09/24/2003 5:14:23 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Thor_Hammar
Shinseki is virulently against the reformation that Rumsfeld wants. He is the General who was feeding Clark and Hackworth all the negative stuff during the war......most if not all of which proved to be WRONG.
149 posted on 09/24/2003 5:18:09 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Humidston
So glad to see General Shelton say what he did about Clark -- Weasley Clark just makes me want to hurl something at the TV!
150 posted on 09/24/2003 5:24:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: CatoRenasci
What I don't understand is why Clark thinks it won't come out.

Don't forget who his political minders are . . . a convicted perjurer and proven rapist who STILL managed to serve eight years and a carpet-bagging, sleaze ball who will cut your throat while smiling in your face and then wax poetic about it taking a village to raise perverted little Democrats.

A little thing like skeletons in Balkan closets is nothing for this egomaniacal triumvirate.

151 posted on 09/24/2003 6:04:05 PM PDT by geedee (Would the boy you were be proud of the man you are?)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
"However,..I think perhaps Hitlery is banking on just that!!"

Maybe Clark's real job is just to ruin Dean 's chance since Dean said he would clean out the DNC of the Clintonistas. Even if Dean didn't win a national election, if he got the nomination that would give him access and time to clean the rat house.
152 posted on 09/24/2003 6:09:00 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: OldCorps
We had the same game in law school. But we called it @$$hole bingo. Leave it to the military to come up with a more technical term than even wannabe lawyers use.
153 posted on 09/24/2003 7:18:27 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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To: Al Simmons
It sounds like you've had an interesting life. I'll bet there are many good stories you could tell. Thanks for sharing this one.
154 posted on 09/24/2003 8:42:31 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: dirtboy
bump again


155 posted on 09/24/2003 8:52:31 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: jaykay
bttt
156 posted on 09/24/2003 10:17:25 PM PDT by lainde
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To: jaykay; PhiKapMom
bump!
and thanks to you, PhiKapMom, for pinging me to your posting of this story
157 posted on 09/25/2003 6:45:52 AM PDT by VOA
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To: jaykay; ALOHA RONNIE; PhiKapMom; doug from upland
General Shelton from the article:
"I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe
early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near
and dear to my heart.
I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat.
I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."


For my fellow "boomer-generation" members who remember the old TV mini-series
"Once An Eagle", an anonymous Army caller to Hugh Hewitt's show on
the day of Clark's announcement, gave us a fictional model of Wesley Clark.

The Wease-Like Social-Climber Army officer: Courtenay Massengale

If "Once An Eagle" were available on DVD/Vido (as it should be), General Shelton
could have simply say "I've know officer like Courtenay Massengale, and Wesley Clark
is a Courtenay Massengale"

OR, he could have said "I've know officers like Sam Damon (the self-sacrificing
officer played by Sam Elliot)...and Wesley is no Sam Damon.

"Once An Eagel" is reviewed at The Internet Movie Database at:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0074034/
158 posted on 09/25/2003 7:01:34 AM PDT by VOA
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To: jaykay
"I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Very, very interesting.. Bump to the top.

159 posted on 09/25/2003 7:09:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jaykay; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
BIG BTTT !!....

I was stationed at Fort Bragg When Gen. Shelton was the Post Commander.... I also served 3 tours in Bosnia under the Nato Mission.... this is very SIGNIFICANT... deserves max dissimination....

David C. Osborne

160 posted on 09/25/2003 8:44:58 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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