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The gods must be crazy (Physics article)
U.S. News and World Report ^ | September 8, 2003 | Charles W. Petit

Posted on 09/12/2003 9:39:02 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist

More than 60 years ago, G. H. Hardy, an English mathematician besotted with abstraction, wrote, " `Imaginary' universes are so much more beautiful than this stupidly constructed `real' one." Were Hardy around today, he'd find plenty of company. From astronomers peering out into space to particle physicists inspecting atomic innards, the more scientists study the universe, the more preposterous, random, and, yes, ugly it becomes.

But hold it. How can the universe be thought ugly? This realm of wheeling galaxies whose stars explode gloriously to seed space with the building blocks of life? A cosmos that bore at least one planet on which mortals find joy in sunsets? Mathematically minded scholars admire such things, too. But for generations they have expected to discover a few simple, elegant rules from which the cosmos's workings spring.

Today, that search is going to extreme lengths, as scientists posit hidden realms, such as extra dimensions or parallel subuniverses, that could help make sense of our apparently random cosmos. They're also planning giant experiments that may turn up hints of these shadow universes. "Some wonderful discoveries are out there, and we are building machines to do this very soon," exults Maria Spiropulu, a young experimental physicist at the University of Chicago's Enrico Fermi Institute.

Cosmology desperately needs such a revelation. Once an academic playground where theorists freely speculated about the nature of the universe, the field now swarms with real data. Astronomers and physicists are busy compiling the universe's stats--its age, composition, and the nature and strength of the forces at work in it. But instead of becoming simpler, as scientists had hoped, this new portrait of the universe is an ever more random-seeming hodgepodge of apparently unconnected constants, particles, forces, and masses.

Fading glow. The last straw for noted physicist John Bahcall of the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., came last March, when NASA trucked out what, by any measure, was a genuine triumph. A satellite called the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe had plotted, in unprecedented detail, tiny temperature variations in the microwave background radiation that fills the sky. This fading glow of the big bang reveals our universe at about 370,000 years (less than a 10,000th of its current age) and holds clues to its exact age and mix of matter and energy (box, below). The agency had invited Bahcall to comment. He dutifully noted his pride. "Every astronomer will remember when they first heard the results from WMAP," he said. Then he confessed. He had hoped against hope that growing evidence of the nature of our universe would turn out to be wrong. "The WMAP results have convinced me," he said. "We have to learn to understand this unattractive universe because we have no other choice."

Bahcall later explained: "It really is strange and--to our perhaps uneducated eyes--arbitrary, ugly, or accidental. To live in a universe where only 4 percent of matter is ordinary matter I find awkward at best, implausible at the least, but there it is." Even worse, he said, was WMAP's confirmation that most of the substance of the universe consists of a mysterious "dark energy" that is pushing all of space apart. "If I didn't have all of these facts in front of me, and you came up with a universe like that, I'd either ask what you've been smoking or tell you to stop telling fairy tales."

WMAP's data on the universe at large only underscore the puzzles physicists find right down to the smallest scales of matter. One is the "hierarchy" problem of the immense disparity in forces. The gravitational pull of an electron on a proton is less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of their electromagnetic attraction. Why these forces are so vastly different is, to scientists, just plain weird. Similarly, physicists have long known that there is no such thing as empty space. Even the vacuum boils with particles and antiparticles appearing and disappearing in a subatomic quantum foam. That foam could generate "vacuum energy"--an antigravity effect very much like that dark energy astronomers have now detected. Trouble is, standard physics suggests that the vacuum energy, if it exists at all, should be incredibly larger than what is observed, by a factor of 1 followed by 55 zeroes.

Then there is the "fine-tuning" problem. The universe appears marvelously constructed to produce stars, planets, and life. Scientists have calculated that if the force binding atomic nuclei were just 0.5 percent different, the processes that forge atoms inside stars would have failed to produce either carbon or oxygen--key ingredients for life. If gravity were only slightly stronger or weaker, stars like our sun could not have formed. Yet physicists see no reason why the constants of nature are set just so.

To some, this is all good news. Perhaps, as many religious people say, God exists and wanted it this way--case closed. For many scientists, who try to avoid supernatural explanations, the accumulation of mysteries merely signals that the time is right for a breakthrough.

One of the newest, most daring hypotheses is that the explanation lies somewhere weird, near yet far: in extra dimensions. As in the land of Narnia in writer C. S. Lewis's novel The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, behind obscure passages in this rambling mansion we call a universe may be hidden wings that make the house beautiful. "There may be a whole new universe of large, higher dimensions beyond the ones we can see and every bit as big and rich," says Joseph Lykken of the University of Chicago and the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory.

Earlier this year, at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Spiropulu organized a session for Lykken and other, mostly young physicists to discuss such extra dimensions and how to find them. Sean Carroll, also of the University of Chicago, is fond of calling the universe preposterous. He explained the appeal of extra dimensions, saying, "One way to tackle a tough problem is to spread it out."

While it may sound like science fiction, extra dimensionality has a solid pedigree in string theory, born in the past 35 years as a way to simplify fundamental particles like quarks and electrons. Traditional physics regards them as points, with a diameter of zero. Zeros wreak havoc in equations, but if fundamental particles are seen instead as tiny vibrating strings and loops, their math quickly settles down. Among string theory's triumphs is that it unites the theory describing gravity, Einstein's general relativity, with the theory governing nature's other forces, quantum mechanics.

Wrinkle in time. Standard string theory requires at least seven extra dimensions, but, unlike the ones we know, they are "compacted," or wrapped into tiny arcs less than a trillionth the size of a proton. In the past few years, however, theorists have concluded that some extra dimensions could be as infinite as our familiar up, forward, and sideways. Another wrinkle in string theory, called M theory, holds that higher dimensions can form membranes--branes for short. Our universe might occupy one brane, while others, perhaps just a short "distance" away, may be home to different physics.

Confused? Don't feel bad. Even experienced physicists have a hard time visualizing such things. With branes, says Harvard University's Lisa Randall, another panelist at the meeting, "the [apparent] weakness of gravity starts to make perfect sense. It's not weak. It only looks that way to us." She and a colleague, Raman Sundrum of Johns Hopkins University, propose that gravity loses its strength as it leaks out of our familiar universe into the "bulk"--that unseen realm of higher dimensions. Other theorists, like Savas Dimopoulos of Stanford University, suggest that gravity originates in a parallel "braneworld" and seems weak to us because only a portion of its strength leaks onto our brane. Dimopoulos also thinks that dark matter, a mystery ingredient of the universe known only from its gravitational pull, is the shadowy echo of a parallel braneworld, or even a sign of folds in our own braneworld that allow gravity to take shortcuts to distant neighborhoods.

M theory has many other variants and oddball jargon, including flat branes, weak branes, colliding branes, skinny branes and, Spiropulu jokes, "my big fat Greek brane." But best of all, large higher dimensions like branes should be much easier to detect than the ultratiny packets of the original string theory. Experimenters see a good chance that a new, more powerful version of Fermilab's Tevatron particle accelerator or the European Large Hadron Collider, due in a few years, may slam protons, electrons, and other particles together so hard that signals of big extra dimensions will finally turn up. Such hints could take the form of so-called supersymmetric particles, predicted by string theory; "gravitons" that carry the force of gravity; or even tiny black holes that would evaporate instantly but leave a telltale signal.

Nobody pretends yet to know the answer. String theorist James Cline of Canada's McGill University sees rapid progress toward a new kind of physics, whatever it is. "There may be large extra dimensions; there may not be," he says. "These are wonderful times. New things are coming out every day. I think the chances that any one of the ideas around today is true are slim. But when we do find the right answer, it will look, and smell, just right."

In other words, it will be beautiful.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; Technical
KEYWORDS: astronomy; cosmology; crevolist; physics; science; stringtheory; theories
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To: aruanan
It's just that too many have too much vested interests to protect to acknowledge Halton Arp and others' observations of quasars that serves up a dead Big Bang complete with little X's over its eyes.

It's more likely that their theories just aren't good enough to withstand scrutiny, and that they fail to account for all of the overwhelming evidence for the Big Bang which has accumulated over the years.

One of my main research areas is the rhetoric of science, and I often find myself in conflict with my peers, who believe in a "hegemony" of scientific elites deciding what counts as science and what doesn't. I prefer to focus on science as a cognitive process (my other main interest is cognitive rhetoric), which means taking into account the individual's practice of science, and not just the institutional and social dimensions. If the consensus in the scientific community is that a (scientific) theory is wrong, than the reason is probably because the theory IS wrong.

In my own field, I know of someone whose very solid work is regularly slammed

What is your field of work? I also noticed on your page that you live in Chicago; you wouldn't happen to knwo any of the scientists discussed in this article, would you?

61 posted on 09/14/2003 6:10:42 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: Taffini
Schrodinger (who's cat is STILL dead)

Well, yes and no...

62 posted on 09/14/2003 6:12:05 PM PDT by null and void (<----Awake and filled with terrible resolve)
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To: Stallone
Einstein sounds to me like a man who knows his limitations, unlike the arrogant twits referred to in this article.

They have their Ph.ds. Where's your Ph.d?

63 posted on 09/14/2003 6:13:56 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (How did go from quoting Einstein to paraphrasing Tom Green?)
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To: RightWingAtheist
I think we all got a charge out of Millikan...
64 posted on 09/14/2003 6:20:01 PM PDT by null and void (sorry, oil just drop it now...)
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To: null and void
LOL!
65 posted on 09/14/2003 6:26:58 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (How did we go from quoting Einstein to paraphrasing Tom Green?)
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To: Stallone
"'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.'"

I've heard it differently : "Hydrogen and stupidity" and variously attributed to everybody from Frank Zappa to Einstein.

Here's a goodie:

"Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain."
--Frederich von Schiller, The Maid of Orleans

At least in this one we KNOW the actual author and the precise quotation. BTW, Asimov used "The Gods Themselves" as the title of a novel (not a very good one, in my opinion)...

--Boris

66 posted on 09/14/2003 6:37:43 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: RightWingAtheist
"We know less than 1/1,000,000th of a percent about anything." - Albert Einstein
67 posted on 09/14/2003 6:58:03 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: RightWingAtheist
What is your field of work? I also noticed on your page that you live in Chicago; you wouldn't happen to knwo any of the scientists discussed in this article, would you?

Just a quick reply for now. I've just decided to put a gel to run overnight because I don't want to be here until midnight getting it ready to transfer and I want to get some sleep. Anyway, I'm about a four minute walk from that person quoted above--that is, if she's in the building I'm thinking of--but I don't know her. There are always a lot of cool seminars that I mean to get to but almost never do!
68 posted on 09/14/2003 7:02:21 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: null and void
Or as Schroedinger's wife may have said: "Erwin! What have you done with the cat? He looks half dead."
69 posted on 09/14/2003 8:34:19 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: concerned about politics
I was hoping to see a planet, but instead saw a large star.

The next time Saturn comes around, take a look even through a cheap telescope.

It will still be just a little, cream colored round ball....but you will say, "Yep....those sure are rings around it."

Blew my mind when I first saw it and it was made real.

70 posted on 09/14/2003 8:40:30 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Blew my mind when I first saw it and it was made real.

Church officials didn't have time to look at the defects introduced by Galileo's telescope.

These days we call those "defects" the Galilean satelites. The first direct proof that not everything revolves around us...

71 posted on 09/14/2003 8:58:05 PM PDT by null and void (A very human tendency to see it when we believe it...)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
*groan*
72 posted on 09/14/2003 8:58:47 PM PDT by null and void
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To: RightWingAtheist
You want evidence?

Then there is the "fine-tuning" problem. The universe appears marvelously constructed to produce stars, planets, and life.

What some would call evidence, others would call a 'problem'. Sure it's a problem if you're trying to prove to the contrary. Very telling choice of words here.

73 posted on 09/15/2003 5:33:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: RightWingAtheist
Liberals...

The "liberal" mindset invades even physics.

They want the universe to be a specific way. They want the rules to be simple and "beautiful". They are disheartened as they discover the truth or they completely ignore it. They continue to try and shape the universe to match the image they have in their minds, instead of letting the universe shape their mental image.

They will never be able to control or even comprehend all the variables that construct and continually shift this universe on an atomic or galactic scale. Those with the "liberal" mindset who realize this truth become dejected and ramble about an "ugly universe" and such.

This same mindset is what keeps the socialists going or drives them into misery. They make the same mistakes about humans as they do with the universe. They want the rules to be simple. They want the variables to be few and easily controlled. The realities they construct are so disjointed from everything that is real that they consistently dissolve into a chaotic yet predictable mess. Those who are given no choice but to see the true nature of the universe and human nature; a glimpse at the infinite scale of variables are driven to misery, loathing and hatred.

The universe and human nature are ugly things to those who wish to control them; and that is one of the things makes them beautiful.


I just couldn’t resist writing this. I know it has very little to do with the technical aspects of the article. It was the thought process and mindset of these people that caught my attention. I find it rather comical that the more they find out about the universe the uglier it is to them. You don’t use adjectives like ugly unless you have some type of negative feeling or thought about the subject.
74 posted on 09/15/2003 6:43:23 AM PDT by myself6 (Unionize IT?! "I will stop the motor of the world" - John Galt)
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To: myself6
There's nothing in this article that even suggests these scientists are liberals. Sure, there are a lot of lefties in science, but it has more to do with the overall leftward tilt of academia than with science itself. Science is the most apolitical of human activities; it has to be, otherwise, it wouldn't come to conclusions which are valid for everyone.
75 posted on 09/15/2003 8:33:52 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: AFPhys; Faraday; gcruse; maxwell; Physicist
Any comments from the resident physics club?
76 posted on 09/15/2003 10:03:29 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: RightWingAtheist
My point was not that they were "political" leftists(liberals, socialists, collectivists) although they may be.

Like I attempted to state at the end of my last post ( of which I obviously didn’t do that great of a job) The thought process ( call it the mindset ) of these people reminded me of political leftists. It seems that there is a scientific branch that believes that life, the universe and everything will be able to be explained through a few simple formulas (E=mc2). Commonsense tells me that the universe is made up of, and continually shifts/progresses based upon an almost infinite number of variables that cannot be expressed formulaically to describe “the meaning of it all”. Don’t get me wrong, that would be cool and all. No unintended consequences, no missing variables to throw a monkey into the wrench a mere million reactions down the line. We could begin to create utopia.

Anyway, it doesn’t really matter if I think they are chasing their tails or not . I was reacting to something subtle in the article, which reminded me of political leftists. If a leftist actually gets a glimpse of the one real REALITY they either choose to ignore it or they become bitter. They begin to look at the world and people in general as ugly things because the “reality” they created in their minds was too far off from the real thing. Their idea of beautiful was an impossibility, therefore the farther away their “reality” deviated from REALITY the uglier everything looked to them.


I guess I shouldn’t have even posted, but I have this desire to understand EVRYTHING about the “liberal” mindset and this article just triggered me to think about another aspect of their self delusion.
77 posted on 09/15/2003 11:12:10 AM PDT by myself6 (Unionize IT?! "I will stop the motor of the world" - John Galt)
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To: RightWingAtheist
The universe may 'just so' because any other formulation would not allow life to arise. This principle doesn't require intelligent design, not should it. More an example of a broken clock being right eventually. We're here because we can be. There may have been/be 'failed' universes running alongside ours to infinity.
78 posted on 09/15/2003 11:36:49 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: boris
Nice tag!
79 posted on 09/15/2003 1:08:14 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: RightWingAtheist
My professional degree is attached to my name. And yours?

Appealing to authority is a logical argument fallacy.

'Because the Queen says so' isn't any kind of valid defense.

In this instance, because the PhD's can't understand the workings of the universe they declare it a hodgepodge of random laws, i.e. ugly.

We really don't need PhD's to validate the elegance and grand design of our universe. It exists in its glory whether we will ever comprehend its meaning or not.

The arrogance of these fools is truly breathtaking.
80 posted on 09/15/2003 1:15:22 PM PDT by Stallone
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