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THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
Dad / Chef / Author, CookingWithCarlo.vom ^ | Sept 12, 2003 | Carlo3b

Posted on 09/12/2003 7:21:01 AM PDT by carlo3b

THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

A TRUE CAUSE FOR ALARM

While watching the debate last evening between the nine candidates for the nomination for the Democratic party, I was struck by the differences between those people on the TV and the people that I interact with everyday. It wasn't just the level of rhetoric spoken by the participants, one expects that the parties in a contest must clarify the divisions separating each, but it was the level of unmitigated bias and hatred loaded in the questions posed by the supposed news journalist, the answers given, and the audience responses. It was not only shocking, but very sad.

There seemed to be a visceral hatred, and a deep gulf between what we think of America in general and what they think of Americans in particular.

They have honed the art of fear, knowing if they keep an uninformed populous in constant fear, and demonize the other side with lies and falsehoods, unharnessed by a willing accomplice in the free press, they know that in the minds of far too many, Fear wins. Healthcare, Social Security, War, Recession, Race..THEY ARE COMING!

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Now please don't get me wrong, I am not a Milquetoast kind of guy on any issue, (HA!) but I am an eternal optimist by nature. It wasn't at all a surprise that I wouldn't agree with most, if any of the positions taken by every candidate on the Democrat ticket. Nor am I suggesting that all Democrats are un-American or anti-American because they disagree with me. I am afraid that we disagree on what are the most fundamental tenants of our form of government, natural law and a moral culture. They cloak their insidious message in a controlled dialogue, and feeding empty platitudes, like fairness, equality, inclusion, and diversity. When it is the very opposite that they practice.

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."
-Johann von Goethe

There was an absence of pride in the tone of every speaker. There were no words of optimism, no claim of greatness on their part. Only lesser degrees of despair. At one point they argued over which one would take back the Bush tax refund money quicker, that the viewers had just received in the mail. Much to my shock, to the rousing applause of the audience. They couldn't articulate enough their utter disgust of our victory in Iraq, and their love of an international control of our sovereignty.

"The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson

They fed the illusion, that we must take more from the Americans that produce, and give more domestically, and world wide, to whom they define as those in need.

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
-Karl Marx

They mocked our morals, and spat out the hatred of their President and Commander-in-Chief, knowing full well that our enemy combatants are watching and that their words were going to bolster their resolve. They would rather do nothing than fight for our safety, peace through passivity, appeasement, and swords into plowshares. Abandon the war, and de-fund the military. That is now, as it has always been, the recipe for war. They are a ship of hope that seems bound to be sunk by the enemy of opportunism.  No matter how earnestly we seek world peace there is always some war bent person, who's ideology and ambition that will kill peace in its infancy.

"To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
-President George Washington

We must ask ourselves, all Americans, the single most important question defining our most crucial national interest.  If Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong II, Adolf Hitler, or Joseph Stalin, had a choice of whom they wished would win the next presidential election, which would the choose? Any of the nine candidates vying for the Democratic nomination, or President George W Bush?

The bottom line is I believe we are at a crossroads in this great country, and the two party system is at least working better than we even imagined. The divide is crystal clear. The Democrats have figured out that the more they make us dependent, the more power they have to keep feeding the insatiable beast, more taxes from the hard workers, less payers to object. In the end game, everyone is a victim, and socialism, as it always has, will fail miserably, and so will we all.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.
Alexander Tytler

The Republicans, for the most part, believe in the power of the people. However, to be elected, one must start with getting elected, and staying in power long enough to make the incremental changes to the betterment of all. But you have to get elected, and that sometimes is the Achilles heal of politics. Whom is saying what, to get in a position to do well, for the most, and which is a wolf in sheep's clothing?  That dilemma is fraught with danger, and we are more often sodomized that satisfied. Trust your instincts, but verify your conclusions.

Trust, but Verify
-President Ronald Reagan

But you must vote, and hope!

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
-Plato

When we look at the results of every pole, and most elections.. it has a clear and defined separation between the givers and the takers, the can do, and the won't try. So far, we are winning, but only by a razor thin plurality.

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."
-Sam Ewig

And I, for the first time in my life, believe that I understand the pre War mentality. Stop it early, or suffer the regret, forever. I think I can see road signs, red flags, omens of history, beckoning us to beware of the danger ahead.

"History is a vast early warning system."
-Norman Cousins

The only thing that can bring the masses of those that will not educate themselves to the issues, or the consequences, is guidance and insistence. In that endeavor we can not be dissuaded. But should that fail, the only alternative is to out maneuver, overwhelm, and ultimately overtake.  Nothing short of the future of our Republic is at stake.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana

We must be stronger in our resolve, quicker in our responses, definite in our purpose.

"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have."
-Margaret Mead

It is we, who must bring this country together, sooner rather than later. It is we, who must take control of events before we, and all of America, have events control our destiny. Our country is divided, and it is we, who must bring it together before it is too far gone and much too late to repair.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half-slave and half-free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved - I do not expect the house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other."
-President Lincoln

For those with the power of persuasion, must persuade! For those with the knack of organization, must organize! For those with the power of the purse, must spend for the cause.. donate!. And for all of us, VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE!

"Live free or die."
-New Hampshire State Motto



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KEYWORDS: 2004; alarm; debate; elections; liberalism; politics
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61 posted on 09/12/2003 8:21:17 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: carlo3b
Except for the jarring use of the non-word "populous", that was a nice summary.
62 posted on 09/12/2003 8:21:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: carlo3b
Good post!

63 posted on 09/12/2003 8:22:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Semper Paratus
I watched a little bit.

Did the name Twana Brawley come up?
64 posted on 09/12/2003 8:23:01 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: lilmsdangrus
Mind? I am honored that you would wish to.. have at it!! Thanks
65 posted on 09/12/2003 8:25:05 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Good job Carlo.
I loved the quote from Plato.
66 posted on 09/12/2003 8:25:59 AM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: carlo3b
bttt
67 posted on 09/12/2003 8:26:01 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: carlo3b
Great essay, carlo.

Everything that my father stood for while I grew up he has thrown out the window because of his hatred toward President Bush and big oil. The other day her regurgitated everything that the dems are saying...ie...awol..Halliburton...no WMD, etc.

I asked him to stop....he didn't. When I came back with a few facts, he said I was brainwashed. *sigh*

The dems lies are driving a wedge between families.

68 posted on 09/12/2003 8:28:33 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Publius6961
Except for the jarring use of the non-word "populous",

Are you suggesting that I should have canned my jarring use of "populous"? Good catch! :-)

69 posted on 09/12/2003 8:28:41 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
OK then, it was a great summary.
70 posted on 09/12/2003 8:30:02 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: carlo3b
Excellent essay, my friend...kudos....BTW...just think of all the wonderful sound bites for the GOP ads that are being generated....as long as the Dems allow the fringe candidates equal time and relevancy..they'll succeed in dragging the entire campaign way farther to the left.....Hmmm?..is McAuliffe doing this on purpose?
71 posted on 09/12/2003 8:31:00 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: carlo3b
Are you suggesting that I should have canned my jarring use of "populous"?

Hmmm. Strange...Dad went on his verbal rampage after I let his wife have a dozen of my canning jars. How did you know? LOL

72 posted on 09/12/2003 8:32:02 AM PDT by lysie
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To: tictoc
I did paint with a broad brush, but fact is that blacks split their vote 92-8 democrat which makes them different from any other group and separate and apart from any other group.

In other ways, they are not so homogeneous. I will say about 2/3 of blacks apppear to live in almost all black neighborhoods which if you have gone to one, seem like a foreign country.

I just played golf with a very pleasant black police officer who is pretty much one of us. Of course, not all blacks are america hating liberals. The ones at morgan state mostly are. And blacks more than other groups are too.
73 posted on 09/12/2003 8:33:00 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: lysie
Lysie,
AARGH!!! You just described my father-in-law, to a "T"!!!
Whats your last name?? LOL!!! Seriously though, isn't it truly bizarre how much koolaid people you know and love have swallowed??
74 posted on 09/12/2003 8:34:06 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus
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To: Ditter
My husband watched & he was constantly screaming f--- you! I don't need that kind of stress.

I did not watch the 9 dwarves, but my 17 yr old daughter and two of her friends (also girls) watched parts of it. On of her friends used the same phrase your husband did, after several of the comments!

75 posted on 09/12/2003 8:36:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: carlo3b
Great post! Watching the debate was like watching a bunch of smurfs. What idiots.
76 posted on 09/12/2003 8:36:57 AM PDT by christie (http://www.clintonlegacycookbook.com)
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To: carlo3b
Hehe.

I could only "stomach" about 1/2 hour of it. It wasn't a RAT Debate, it was Bash Bush Debate. Sickening! I love my President and I really couldn't sit, watch and listen to the garbage the RATS were spewing.

I love how Rush said that Dean looks as though he is about to go postal and take hostages.

I'm curious, which of those RATS is the most enviro wacko out there?

77 posted on 09/12/2003 8:40:44 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: lysie
On my Dad's side of the family, all of my aunts are married to flaming libs (college professors,lawyers). Big TIME! Weddings are a hoot though. My dad against his brother-in-laws. They are Clinton lovers. It can be pretty funny. Me, my dad and my brother can gang up on 'em and burn their Cliontonesque views.
78 posted on 09/12/2003 8:48:33 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: carlo3b
The debate was sponsored by the black caucus.

Black people make up 15% of the population and will be 20% of the voting, given the amount of fraud perpetrated in inner cities.

Keep that debate in mind when you think you ought to 'punish' President Bush for not doing things YOUR way.

79 posted on 09/12/2003 8:51:46 AM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: carlo3b
Great job on the post, carlo3b!

This was not a "debate". It was an anti-Bush infomercial, complete with every lie and slander imaginable.

The only way to stop this sort of slander is bring back the practice of dueling. There is no question which side would either shut up or be the permanent loser!

80 posted on 09/12/2003 8:55:49 AM PDT by Gritty
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