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THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
Dad / Chef / Author, CookingWithCarlo.vom ^ | Sept 12, 2003 | Carlo3b

Posted on 09/12/2003 7:21:01 AM PDT by carlo3b

THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

A TRUE CAUSE FOR ALARM

While watching the debate last evening between the nine candidates for the nomination for the Democratic party, I was struck by the differences between those people on the TV and the people that I interact with everyday. It wasn't just the level of rhetoric spoken by the participants, one expects that the parties in a contest must clarify the divisions separating each, but it was the level of unmitigated bias and hatred loaded in the questions posed by the supposed news journalist, the answers given, and the audience responses. It was not only shocking, but very sad.

There seemed to be a visceral hatred, and a deep gulf between what we think of America in general and what they think of Americans in particular.

They have honed the art of fear, knowing if they keep an uninformed populous in constant fear, and demonize the other side with lies and falsehoods, unharnessed by a willing accomplice in the free press, they know that in the minds of far too many, Fear wins. Healthcare, Social Security, War, Recession, Race..THEY ARE COMING!

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Now please don't get me wrong, I am not a Milquetoast kind of guy on any issue, (HA!) but I am an eternal optimist by nature. It wasn't at all a surprise that I wouldn't agree with most, if any of the positions taken by every candidate on the Democrat ticket. Nor am I suggesting that all Democrats are un-American or anti-American because they disagree with me. I am afraid that we disagree on what are the most fundamental tenants of our form of government, natural law and a moral culture. They cloak their insidious message in a controlled dialogue, and feeding empty platitudes, like fairness, equality, inclusion, and diversity. When it is the very opposite that they practice.

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."
-Johann von Goethe

There was an absence of pride in the tone of every speaker. There were no words of optimism, no claim of greatness on their part. Only lesser degrees of despair. At one point they argued over which one would take back the Bush tax refund money quicker, that the viewers had just received in the mail. Much to my shock, to the rousing applause of the audience. They couldn't articulate enough their utter disgust of our victory in Iraq, and their love of an international control of our sovereignty.

"The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson

They fed the illusion, that we must take more from the Americans that produce, and give more domestically, and world wide, to whom they define as those in need.

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
-Karl Marx

They mocked our morals, and spat out the hatred of their President and Commander-in-Chief, knowing full well that our enemy combatants are watching and that their words were going to bolster their resolve. They would rather do nothing than fight for our safety, peace through passivity, appeasement, and swords into plowshares. Abandon the war, and de-fund the military. That is now, as it has always been, the recipe for war. They are a ship of hope that seems bound to be sunk by the enemy of opportunism.  No matter how earnestly we seek world peace there is always some war bent person, who's ideology and ambition that will kill peace in its infancy.

"To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
-President George Washington

We must ask ourselves, all Americans, the single most important question defining our most crucial national interest.  If Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong II, Adolf Hitler, or Joseph Stalin, had a choice of whom they wished would win the next presidential election, which would the choose? Any of the nine candidates vying for the Democratic nomination, or President George W Bush?

The bottom line is I believe we are at a crossroads in this great country, and the two party system is at least working better than we even imagined. The divide is crystal clear. The Democrats have figured out that the more they make us dependent, the more power they have to keep feeding the insatiable beast, more taxes from the hard workers, less payers to object. In the end game, everyone is a victim, and socialism, as it always has, will fail miserably, and so will we all.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.
Alexander Tytler

The Republicans, for the most part, believe in the power of the people. However, to be elected, one must start with getting elected, and staying in power long enough to make the incremental changes to the betterment of all. But you have to get elected, and that sometimes is the Achilles heal of politics. Whom is saying what, to get in a position to do well, for the most, and which is a wolf in sheep's clothing?  That dilemma is fraught with danger, and we are more often sodomized that satisfied. Trust your instincts, but verify your conclusions.

Trust, but Verify
-President Ronald Reagan

But you must vote, and hope!

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
-Plato

When we look at the results of every pole, and most elections.. it has a clear and defined separation between the givers and the takers, the can do, and the won't try. So far, we are winning, but only by a razor thin plurality.

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."
-Sam Ewig

And I, for the first time in my life, believe that I understand the pre War mentality. Stop it early, or suffer the regret, forever. I think I can see road signs, red flags, omens of history, beckoning us to beware of the danger ahead.

"History is a vast early warning system."
-Norman Cousins

The only thing that can bring the masses of those that will not educate themselves to the issues, or the consequences, is guidance and insistence. In that endeavor we can not be dissuaded. But should that fail, the only alternative is to out maneuver, overwhelm, and ultimately overtake.  Nothing short of the future of our Republic is at stake.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana

We must be stronger in our resolve, quicker in our responses, definite in our purpose.

"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have."
-Margaret Mead

It is we, who must bring this country together, sooner rather than later. It is we, who must take control of events before we, and all of America, have events control our destiny. Our country is divided, and it is we, who must bring it together before it is too far gone and much too late to repair.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half-slave and half-free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved - I do not expect the house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other."
-President Lincoln

For those with the power of persuasion, must persuade! For those with the knack of organization, must organize! For those with the power of the purse, must spend for the cause.. donate!. And for all of us, VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE!

"Live free or die."
-New Hampshire State Motto



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; alarm; debate; elections; liberalism; politics
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"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
-Thomas Jefferson,
1 posted on 09/12/2003 7:21:01 AM PDT by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
If the 2004 election turns out to be razor thin again I am going to be very afraid.
2 posted on 09/12/2003 7:23:30 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: carlo3b
It isn't all that new. Remember during the Clinton "regime" EVERYTHING was a CRISIS.

____fill in the blank_______ crisis.

It seemed like there was a daily event that was a "crisis." The nine dwarves have learned from their master.

3 posted on 09/12/2003 7:26:47 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........I believe in using the abuse button......)
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob J; christie; stanz; jellybean; Angelique; Howie; TwoStep; piasa; Exit148; ...
"Bluntness is a virtue."
-Allison Ling

4 posted on 09/12/2003 7:27:12 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Oh, and, great post, btw.

Cheers!
5 posted on 09/12/2003 7:27:20 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........I believe in using the abuse button......)
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To: carlo3b
"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
-Thomas Jefferson,


That was when there were still words like HONOR, INTEGRITY, COURAGE.....
6 posted on 09/12/2003 7:28:52 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: carlo3b
Great post! Good work.
7 posted on 09/12/2003 7:29:53 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: carlo3b
Dear Carlo, this recipe is not as good as your usual posts! ;-)
8 posted on 09/12/2003 7:30:40 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Semper Paratus
If the 2004 election turns out to be razor thin again I am going to be very afraid.

Prepare to be scared to death.. By the sound of the early volleys, it's going to be the Mother of all Horror Flicks!!

9 posted on 09/12/2003 7:30:55 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
this recipe is not as good as your usual posts! ;-)

However hard to swallow, it is a recipe for success! ..:o)

10 posted on 09/12/2003 7:32:40 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Now do I bake these rats in the oven or do I charcoal them on my big Weber?
11 posted on 09/12/2003 7:33:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (May our brave warriors kill all of the Islamokazis/facists/nazis to prevent future 9/11's.)
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To: carlo3b; 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Alkhin; Allegra; alnick; American72; antivenom; ...
What a ping!

As always, a FReep mail will get you on or off this Houston topics ping list.

---

Flyer

12 posted on 09/12/2003 7:33:29 AM PDT by Flyer (I left my tag line in Humblegunner's truck)
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To: carlo3b
The libs are using the same old crap- frightening folks with trumped up charges, slamming the current administration, and standing up for nothing, and going against everything. I heard a lady from Florida on Rush yesterday, and she was a classic example of how the liberal media is spinning the war on Iraq far from the truth. I pray that the majority of Americans know the truth, or at least can find it before 11/04.
13 posted on 09/12/2003 7:33:57 AM PDT by rintense (9-11-01: Never Forget.)
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To: Semper Paratus
If the 2004 election turns out to be razor thin again I am going to be very afraid.

My husband and I were just talking about this the night of the debate. There's no way the red states are going to let Hillary take over this country -- especially if there is voter fraud in the big cities in the blue states again.

14 posted on 09/12/2003 7:35:34 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Grampa Dave
Now do I bake these rats in the oven or do I charcoal them on my big Weber?

We need to FRY these ba$tards!! LOLOL

15 posted on 09/12/2003 7:36:16 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
>"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." -- Thomas Jefferson

Oh great! Now we must
puzzle out if everything
Thomas Jefferson

wrote was as stupid
and totally off the mark
as this one, dumb quote...

16 posted on 09/12/2003 7:37:39 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: carlo3b
BTTT
17 posted on 09/12/2003 7:38:15 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: carlo3b
THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW


What debate? That was no debate.All they did was bash the president. You'd think they are planning to share the presidency if President Bush loses his re-election, which of course he will not
18 posted on 09/12/2003 7:38:18 AM PDT by Kaslin (Advice to Hillary. Please engage brain before opening mouth)
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To: rintense
I heard a lady from Florida on Rush yesterday, and she was a classic example of how the liberal media is spinning the war on Iraq far from the truth.

I heard her as well, and was screeming at my radio.. note to self, only 1 cup of coffee before talk radio.. ;)

19 posted on 09/12/2003 7:38:20 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Excellent.
20 posted on 09/12/2003 7:38:45 AM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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