Posted on 08/08/2003 8:36:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are - like the "Gorbasms" liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev - fake. I know that (R) next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this "The Hollywood Syndrome," and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas.
The American Prowler's George Neumayr detailed Arnold's politics in his article "Here's Arnold!" Quote: "[H]e spoke in generalities and banalities about his plans for the state. To the extent that he said anything, he sounded not like a fiscal conservative but a moderate Democrat. He said that he wanted businesses to come back to California so that the state government could collect enough tax revenues to provide social programs. This is the sort of obtuse comment middle-of-the-road Democrats always make, forgetting that businesses are leaving the state because they are tired of paying high taxes for those big government social programs."
More: "He has told the press he is 'very liberal' about social programs, supports abortion and homosexual adoption, and advocates 'sensible gun controls.' His entree into politics last year was a proposition Democrats endorsed because it raised state spending for what amounted to state babysitting - before-school and after-school programs that cost the state up to $455 million a year. He has complained openly about the party's conservatism.... Talk magazine described him as 'impatient' with the religious right.... [H]e expressed disgust with the Republicans who impeached Clinton. 'That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for,' he said. 'We spent one year wasting time because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.'"
Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.
FISCAL CONSERVATIVE: don't spend excess monies from government on social programs best handled from the private sector: we trust market forces to do this; gov'ts have no business in social engineering.
SOCIAL LIBERAL: spend all kinds of gov't monies on social programs, for we don't trust the private sector to do anything.
I'm sorry, but Arnold's OWN WORDS belie him: he believes he wants to do both of the above, which is impossible! Rush is merely pointing out that he's NOT the next incarnation of Reagan.... or even GW Bush, for that matter! Rush's point is simply this: Arnold is telling you Californians what he would do: and it's not conservative. Elect him if you like (it's obviously your choice), but do so with your eyes and ears open.
What I really don't get about his "platform" is this:
(a) He sez we can't afford social programs: they have driven away business.
(b) He then says that once business comes back, he can resume the social programs.
Excuse me, sir, but that won't bring 'em back: the over-regulation and over-taxation drove them away -- the only thing that will get business prosperous is to reduce the burden permanently.
Hardly.
But he sounds like he could be the next Evita.
I don't disagree with what you've said. All Rush is doing is making political observations that are crystal clear to most people willing to open their eyes and face the truth.
California is a very liberal state and has shifted towards total Democrat domination over the last decade. Arnald appeals to some conservatives and some liberals, but his strength lies with the independents in the mushy middle.
Who knows, may be Arnald will win the recall election and have a political reincarnation while in office. Otherwise he will govern as a moderate to liberal Republican, at best.
Yep
Simon lost
People want to punish Davis, but not reward Simon. He will remind them of Davis. Arnold is new and exciting. If he is not toppled by the Democrat friendly media, he should win as ordinary people would give the actor a chance. The Democrats know the endgame and will rally around someone to keep California in the D column for 2004. There best chance is a split Republican ticket with Simon attacking Schwarznegger and reminding everyone why the Democrats are in control (and should remain in control). That should not happen. Simon should only remain in the race as insurance. He should absolutely not run any ads against any other Republican. No Republican should run negative ads. They should stay on message, positive, "feel the love."
"Conservatives pure enough for that loudmouth blowhard don't do well in California. Schwarzenegger, for all his faults (and he has many), is conservative where it counts--economic and fiscal policy, which is the first and foremost problem facing California right now."
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First off.....IF...Arnold is a "conservative".....I've seen very little, if any...evidence of it.
Secondly, I've learned more from and respect the "loudmouth blowhard" way more than most / many of the folks on FR.
Thirdly...I dunno how in the heck you can come to any conclusion ( let alone it being a "conservative" slant..) on Arnold's "economic and fiscal policy"....at this point in time.
FWIW--
That's why he's a political and social commentator....You've never struck me as someone who opposed free speech...
Arnie IS a social liberal....pro-gun control, supports abortion "rights" and has a vast array of liberal social programs that he would like supported. This is his past record....He was strongly opposed to the impeachment of Clintoon...
Ann Coulter stated as much on Hanity & Colmes....should she "STFU" too? How about Hanity, same opinion...Drudge (eeuch) same opinion.....
Arnie's on screen persona belies his real positions...If you don't believe this, wait....Arnie will define himself between now and the election for those who doubt.
NeverGore
What's up with that?
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