Gods and Generals (Vanity)

[irish guard]

The movie, Gods and Generals is now out on video and I had the pleasure of watching it last night (Mrs. irish guard is not very big on violent movies). I remember from the original post when the movie came out, the character of Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson stole the show and I was stunned by the focus on religion and each of the principal character's unabashed expression of their religious faith. The news today is troubling all around; gay marriages and Bishops, priest pedophelia, Muslim violence....all religion related.

I am certain I will be flamed for this post, but it was such a pleasure to learn that these men were so fervently religious....... that there was a time in our history when people could actually hold religious beliefs and not be openly chastised for it.

The Democrats in this country find it perfectly acceptable for millions to hold beliefs contrary to religious ones....gay marriages, abortions, euthanasia, gay bishops, etc, yet, when Rick Santorum or, God forbid, a federal judiciary appointee, or others wish to express their opinions while holding office, the Democrats become apoplectic.

I think the Republicans have the right idea with the "Catholics Need Not Apply" comment. This thing has legs and even if it doesn't, it is the right thing to do and how can you argue with that.

My apologies for the rant and the expression of religious delight over a movie that caught me by surprise.

[laweeks]

According to the Democrat way of thinking, the Gettysburg Address would be unconstitutional reading due to Lincoln's mention of God. Religion CAN'T ne a part of their playbook since abortion, homosexuality, adultery, etc., are expressly forbidden. If they close their eyes real tight, they won't be able to see the Bible; therefore, the Bible doesn't exist.

[Tank-FL]

You should read the book. It TOWERS above the Movie. The Movie is bascially a re-write.

You will love the book. So take the time and pick up the text and you will not put it down.

VMI will be heard from TODAY!

[Petronski]

I think the Republicans have the right idea with the "Catholics Need Not Apply" comment.

I know what you mean, but it might be clearer to say you think the Republicans have the right idea with branding Democrat attitudes as "Catholics Need Not Apply."

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Radix]

I also watched that movie last night on DVD. It was a bit slow at times, but overall I did learn something from it. Thumbs up.

One particular scene stood out in my mind. Stonewall Jackson was sitting on a horse with Jim(?)Louis the black cook. I was surprised (being a northener) at Jackson's comments regarding the abolition of slavery.

Well, from every angle save one they were equal as they both prayed for virtually the same thing. Each man was humble before God and each was sincere. The only thing in that scene that separated them was the fact that Jackson was on a high horse. I found that to be an interesting metaphor.

[Dr Warmoose]

...and the expression of religious delight over a movie that caught me by surprise

Especially since Ted Turner was involved.

[elbucko]

I think the Republicans have the right idea with the "Catholics Need Not Apply" comment.

Oh, Geez, you idiot! It was the Catholic Church that came out against "gay marriage". It's the Episcopalians that are going "kwear".

[Texas_Jarhead]

I bought the DVD and watched it last week. It was a good flick.

[irish guard]

Actaully, I have read all the Shaara \books. The thing I found most stunning was that this was Hollywood and Ted Turner behind this.....and the religion stayed in. stunning.

[irish guard]

I know full well that the bishop is Episcopalian and the judge is Catholic.

[reegs]

I think the Republicans have the right idea with the "Catholics Need Not Apply" comment. This thing has legs and even if it doesn't, it is the right thing to do and how can you argue with that.

I'm a bit confused by this comment. Maybe I'm a bit behind in the news. Care to clarify?

[nravoter]

Actaully, I have read all the Shaara \books.

I read The Killer Angels way back when, but right now I'm really enjoying Jeff's Rise to Rebellion. Just fifty pages left--the best book I've read in a long time.

[CatoRenasci]

I have to say I was rather disappointed in the film. Aside from the anachronism of showing the Corps leaving from the Jackson Arch side of Old Barracks rather than Washington Arch, which was actually there in 1861, I just find it hard to believe that Jackson, Lee and the various other people portrayed in the film were always so grave and deliberate, that they spoke so pompously. I know the 19th century was a more formal time, but the filmwriters seem to have taken the formality of written prose, and assumed it represented contermporary speech as closely as the dialog in a trashy novel representes modern speech.

My own bet is that the way Cadets talked in 1861 was not a whole lot different from the way Cadets talk today, or did anywhere in between (as in whenever the Old Corps starts for you). And, I would bet that the atmosphere in a division, corps or army CP wasn't much different than it is today, allowing for the differences in information technology available to the commander.

Yours in the bonds....

[Hostage]

Some of the judicial nominees have been catholic and because of their being catholic they are anti-abortion. So they cannot be confirmed because of Democrat filibusters. Hence, the Republicans saying "Catholics need not apply".

[Huck]

I'm a bit confused by this comment. Maybe I'm a bit behind in the news. Care to clarify?

Judicial nominees. The latest Dim filibuster of a judicial nominee involves a Catholic who is pro-Life. The Senate GOP is claiming--ludicrously in my opinion--that this is a case of anti Catholic bias. Of course it isn't. It is pro abortion bias. When the GOP claimed the Dims were anti-Hispanic regarding the Estrada filibuster, I found it equally ludicrous. And by the way, it was totally ineffective. The Dims have the #s, and are blocking pro life judges who are federalists ideologically. It's that simple.

[reegs]

Ahh... I see. Thanks for bringing me up to speed!

[majordivit]

Always mistify, mislead and surprise the enemy. And when you strike and overcome him, never let up in the pursuit. Never fight against heavy odds if you can hurl your force on only part of the enemy and crush it. A small army may thus destroy a large one. And repeated victory will make it invincible.

T.J. Jackson

Not a bad maxim for politics either.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

"Oh, Geez, you idiot! It was the Catholic Church that came out against "gay marriage". It's the Episcopalians that are going "kwear"."

I don't know if you have tongue in cheek, or just don't follow the news too close?

The term, "No Catholics need apply" is what the repubs are accusing the Rats on the filibustering of judicial appointments.

If the former, it was a bad joke, if the latter, we all see who the idiot is

[carton253]

Raise the Black Flag...

[ladtx]

I just finished the book myself. The movie follows the book almost word for word. I recommend "Gone for Soldiers" about the Mexican War, following Lee, Jackson, Scott etc. also by Jeff Shaara. I think it is even better than "Gods and Generals", it would make another outstanding movie.