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Shooting at NYC City Hall. 2 dead, including Concilman James Davis

Posted on 07/23/2003 11:19:01 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Reporters diving for cover at City Hall.

Shots are coming from second floor.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1photo206; banglist; black; bloomberg; casualties; cityhall; councilman; giuliani; newyork; newyorkcity; ny; nyc; nypd; othnielboazaskew; pataki; security; sociopath; soulbrother; strange
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To: dead
Great synopsis, Shep, uh, I mean, dead. So you're democracy, then? I've been looking for you!
621 posted on 07/23/2003 1:48:29 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Mo1
I have emailed FNC more than once in the past hour and a half.
622 posted on 07/23/2003 1:48:30 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: firebrand
CNN: "What is your recollection of Councilman Davis"
Clinton: "Rick and I were best friends. We used to go fishing together down at the East River. "
623 posted on 07/23/2003 1:49:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: floriduh voter
I haven't listened to Savage since he left WABC 770 NYC, he has been replaced 7-9 by Mark Levin. Mark can rant right up there with Savage. They webcast so you can check him out if you want.
624 posted on 07/23/2003 1:49:51 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: Gabz
Shep Smith blaming protesting smokers for the shooting because AP reported a smoking ban rally at City Hall today. That rally is tomorrow.

Would you please stick to the facts instead of unfairly smearing Shep? He never 'blamed' anyone, he just stated that he had been given info that the smoking ban rally was scheduled for 1pm at the park across from City Hall. And before he mentioned it, he included a big caveat, stating that he didn't know if there was any relation, that it was just information that he has been given, but for what it's worth, there was a rally scheduled...

Far different from how you are portraying it. Further, did you ever consider that most of the info and updates he reads and gives out are simply written by someone else in the newsroom and either handed to him or spoken by producers into his earpiece?

625 posted on 07/23/2003 1:49:53 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: B Knotts
I don't know why terrorists would care but the shooter, was he muslim? If so, he got his virgins.
626 posted on 07/23/2003 1:49:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Click On my Name - Visit My Profile)
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To: Labyrinthos
Realistically, .5% to 1% of the population will want CCWs and yes, I know, that's still a lot.

I say use Randall's island. Written test on self-defense application and the law. Practical shooting test. It might take a year for the initial backlog to clear, but it is much better than having 400,000 defenseless people.

627 posted on 07/23/2003 1:50:00 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Labyrinthos
Not a problem for me here in the far Burbs, but there are not a lot of places to practice in a densily populated city of nearly eight million people.

Back when I was in high school in NYC, my Catholic high school had a 50-yard rifle range in the basement where we would conduct rifle marksmanship classes, and where the school rifle team would practice. As far as I know, it's still in use. (The school has junior-division ROTC)

628 posted on 07/23/2003 1:50:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === will work for food)
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To: Mo1
See post #625, Shep never 'blamed' the smokers' rally.
629 posted on 07/23/2003 1:51:01 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Mo1


This Black-on-Black violence is Whitey's fault
630 posted on 07/23/2003 1:51:09 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: AppyPappy; seamole
Seems Mr. Davis was against guns..

Stop the Violence

631 posted on 07/23/2003 1:51:37 PM PDT by Dog
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To: dead
It could be a different guy named Othniel Bogz Askew.

I have told y'all and TOLD y'all not to use my real name on FR!
632 posted on 07/23/2003 1:51:44 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Pennsylvania is a "shall issue" state, with several hundred thousand concealed-carry-permit holders. Some large number of CCW-holders work in Philadelphia, and carry there. Downtown Philly, while not as crowded as mid-Manhatten at rush hour, is still a high-density urban area. We have not had any incidents that I know of regarding a CCW holder firing wildly and hitting innocent bystanders. Same deal with Pittsburg. Florida is another state with "shall-issue" CCW, and I've not seen any reports of innocents being shot in downtown Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Ft Lauderdale, or other major areas. Considering how anti-gun the press is, I'm sure I would have heard (over and over) if any such incidents had occurred.

Did you know that the population of the City of New York is greater than the combined populations of Philadelphia, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Ft. Lauderdale? What works in otherplaces may not be practical in New York City.

633 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:01 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: dead
LOL!!!!
634 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:20 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: dead
A white guy, who is black or hispanic, shot Davis and somebody else, was then shot and killed by Davis, then he was shot and wounded by a plain clothes detective, then he escaped unharmed in the ensuing melee, and Bloomberg is reporting that democracy is dead.

One dark night in the middle of the day
Two dead boys came out to play
Back to back they faced each other
Drew their swords and shot each other
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came and killed the two dead boys
A paralyzed donkey kicked them over a 12 foot fence
If you don't believe my story
Ask the blind begger who saw it all through a knot hole in a barb wire fence!

635 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:22 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dog
He's also a minister.
636 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:31 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: jimbo123
His bad facelift makes him look like Mrs. Doubtfire.
637 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:32 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Labyrinthos
Absolutely, which is one of the reasons why NYC has such strict gun control laws I suspect. There are not a lot of places where the average law abiding working class person can go to practice, and the city is too darn busy and disorganized to enforce a certification/recertification program.

Actually the Sullivan laws were enacted to help preserve police corruption in NYC and to make certain that no new organized crime gangs could effectively chhallenge the established criminal organizations is was supported by organized fcrime at the time. If guns were legally held in nYC and they obeyed the uS Constitution there would be numerous indoor pistol ranges. which would fill this need.

638 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:35 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: AppyPappy
Rick should have 'chunked' billyboy to the bluefish, they will eat anything(they love fingers ;-)
639 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:50 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: mabelkitty
Looks like the perp was nailed as Askew. FReepers pegged that correctly!

Neil said there are reports that it was Askew

640 posted on 07/23/2003 1:53:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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