[Labyrinthos]

Pennsylvania is a "shall issue" state, with several hundred thousand concealed-carry-permit holders. Some large number of CCW-holders work in Philadelphia, and carry there. Downtown Philly, while not as crowded as mid-Manhatten at rush hour, is still a high-density urban area. We have not had any incidents that I know of regarding a CCW holder firing wildly and hitting innocent bystanders. Same deal with Pittsburg. Florida is another state with "shall-issue" CCW, and I've not seen any reports of innocents being shot in downtown Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Ft Lauderdale, or other major areas. Considering how anti-gun the press is, I'm sure I would have heard (over and over) if any such incidents had occurred.

Did you know that the population of the City of New York is greater than the combined populations of Philadelphia, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Ft. Lauderdale? What works in otherplaces may not be practical in New York City.

[Semper911]

An armed society is a polite society.

[Lady Heron]

Did you know that the population of the City of New York is greater than the combined populations of Philadelphia, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Ft. Lauderdale? What works in otherplaces may not be practical in New York City.

So your answer is to take their right away and leave them defenseless. You need to read what the founding fathers wrote on the subject before you become so willing to give up that right. They considered this right to be of great importance to the maintaining freedoms here in the US, and their reasonings are sound and have been proven correct in the histories of Europe and the rest of the world.

[SauronOfMordor]

Did you know that the population of the City of New York is greater than the combined populations of Philadelphia, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Ft. Lauderdale? What works in otherplaces may not be practical in New York City.

I'm very familiar with New York City. I was born there and lived there for most of my life. NY is very large

But what matters is the population density at any particular place. The population density in NYC at 14th Street and 5th Avenue is not much more than the density in Philadelphia at 19th and Market. The key data is, on average, how many people will be in any likely bullet path before the bullet is stopped by the wall of a building (a brick wall or a thick glass wall will both stop a bullet from traveling further).