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Anyone see this comic today from the LA Times (Gun to the head of the President)
LA Times ^ | July 20, 2003

Posted on 07/20/2003 4:54:42 PM PDT by jern


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: latimes; liberalmedia; michaelramirez; ramirez
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To: JustPiper

You may have already been over there, but here's a LINK to some of Ramirez' latest cartoons.

  What is 'this one saying D1186 posted on 07/20/2003 10:40 PM PDT by JustPiper
 

Take a look at the top cartoon I just posted to you.  I think you'll note that Ramirez is right on target with that one.  He seems to be ridiculing the democrats on the very topic your cartoon addresses.  I think the cartoon you posted to me was another way of saying the same thing.  Look closely at the large version here by right clicking and viewing.

See the body parts laying around?  There's a leg, a few hands, some skulls... what you will notice are the remnants of this beast's victims.  Bush has just taken the beast that killed the people down.  Instead of saying thanks, this buffoon is ignoring the obvious to note that there's no uranium to be found.  I think that's a slam at the naysayers.

Do you think I'm off base with that assessment?

201 posted on 07/20/2003 11:16:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Rome2000
You're too pesimistic - there is good news.

Dems threw a fit over a vote which was called by a committee chairman.

The dems had left the chamber to congregate in the library to discuss the legislation (and of course to plot their obstruction). When the vote was called, the Sgt at Arms (McInnis) went to get the dems - they threw a fit and Clark started calling McInnis childish names and threatened him. The committee chairman called the capitol police and they informed the dems they would have to leave the library and return to the chamber. While the dems were busy with all their juvenile behavior, the chairman called the vote and gaveled it done with just the repubs present.

The dems were outraged, of course, because there was a vote without them, which they tried to claim was illegal. For some reason they were not familiar with the legislation, even though it had been on the internet for several weeks. After the mess was all over, the dems called a press conference, and Rangel said "the republicans are so mean to us". I couldn't believe it. I nearly fell over laughing.

As for the Senate .. They have a procedure whereby a senator can disapprove of a presidential appointee from his state. It's called a "blue slip". However, as we are all well aware, the dems have been overdoing the blue slips - just to obstruct Bush's nominees.

When the most recent 4 Michigan appointees were announced, the 2 Michigan senators (one being Levin) sent their blue slips. Frist went ballistic. He called for the appointees to be sent directly to the floor for a vote, bypassing the committee altogether (because we have the majority of votes anyway), and ignoring the blue slips - the 4 names are to be voted on sometime next week. This is HARDBALL! Frist isn't doing anything illegal, but I'm sure the dems had no idea Frist was going to override their blue slips - and call their bluff!!!

All in all - it was a VERY bad week for the dems.
202 posted on 07/20/2003 11:29:48 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: jern
If anyone had pulled this kind of outrage on Clinton they would be in a place that allows one phone call per day. I thought this qualified for arrest. It's insightful to nut cases, and if a white supremasist author can go to jail on the charge that his book influenced a couple of nuts to kill a jewish disc-jockey then why is this same kind of thing from liberals given a pass?
203 posted on 07/21/2003 12:00:32 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: DoughtyOne
Your not off base at all, you have enlightened me and pointed out things I did not see. Told you I value your opnion ;)
204 posted on 07/21/2003 12:10:06 AM PDT by JustPiper (Am I going or are you coming? Socialist Democratic = Commie!)
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To: HighWheeler
You forgot those marxist puerto ricans that tried to kill Truman.
205 posted on 07/21/2003 12:42:22 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: jern
This cartoon is brillian! I noticed something that I think it very important to interpreting this cartoon. The image of Bush is a "Caraciture"... much more so than other cartoons Ramirez has done of Bush in the past... while the rest of the cartoon is drawn much more realistically while still maintaining the cartoon genre. There MUST be a reason for this difference.

My thesaurus lists two synonyms for "caricature." The first synonym is "cartoon" and that certainly can fit the bill... but the second synonym is "misrepresentation," which fits MUCH CLOSER what is being done to Bush.

I believe that what Ramirez is depicting is the fact that the left has erected a CARICATURE, a misrepresentation of Bush by falsifying what he said in the now famous 16 words. It is that caricature that "Politics" is attempting to kill in this cartoon, not the real Bush and his very true statement.

This has to be the reason for the differing styles drawn by Ramirez... and it is profound. This is a very DEEP cartoon... and brilliant!

This cartoon is a political pun in cartoon form... to my mind the title of this work of are should be:

"Caricature Assassination!"

206 posted on 07/21/2003 12:50:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: jern
This cartoon is brillian! I noticed something that I think it very important to interpreting this cartoon. The image of Bush is a "Caraciture"... much more so than other cartoons Ramirez has done of Bush in the past... while the rest of the cartoon is drawn much more realistically while still maintaining the cartoon genre. There MUST be a reason for this difference.

My thesaurus lists two synonyms for "caricature." The first synonym is "cartoon" and that certainly can fit the bill... but the second synonym is "misrepresentation," which fits MUCH CLOSER what is being done to Bush.

I believe that what Ramirez is depicting is the fact that the left has erected a CARICATURE, a misrepresentation of Bush by falsifying what he said in the now famous 16 words. It is that caricature that "Politics" is attempting to kill in this cartoon, not the real Bush and his very true statement.

This has to be the reason for the differing styles drawn by Ramirez... and it is profound. This is a very DEEP cartoon... and brilliant!

This cartoon is a political pun in cartoon form... to my mind the title of this work of are should be:

"Caricature Assassination!"

207 posted on 07/21/2003 12:51:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: jern
This cartoon is brillian! I noticed something that I think it very important to interpreting this cartoon. The image of Bush is a "Caraciture"... much more so than other cartoons Ramirez has done of Bush in the past... while the rest of the cartoon is drawn much more realistically while still maintaining the cartoon genre. There MUST be a reason for this difference.

My thesaurus lists two synonyms for "caricature." The first synonym is "cartoon" and that certainly can fit the bill... but the second synonym is "misrepresentation," which fits MUCH CLOSER what is being done to Bush.

I believe that what Ramirez is depicting is the fact that the left has erected a CARICATURE, a misrepresentation of Bush by falsifying what he said in the now famous 16 words. It is that caricature that "Politics" is attempting to kill in this cartoon, not the real Bush and his very true statement.

This has to be the reason for the differing styles drawn by Ramirez... and it is profound. This is a very DEEP cartoon... and brilliant!

This cartoon is a political pun in cartoon form... to my mind the title of this work of are should be:

"Caricature Assassination!"

208 posted on 07/21/2003 12:52:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: admin
Sorry about the triple post... FR is not responding when completing a reply... can you delete the extras please?
209 posted on 07/21/2003 12:55:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: UB355
"If someone posts some contact info I will be happy to make contact with some slime at the LA tines."

Just go to any search engine and type in LA Times (not tines). That should do it.

Carolyn

210 posted on 07/21/2003 3:05:17 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Thank you!
211 posted on 07/21/2003 4:56:55 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: JustPiper
Ramirez returns to Memphis, where he once was the cartoonist for the Commercial Appeal, several times a year. I think he might still have family here. On those trips, he frequently appears on a local afternoon drive time radio talk show hosted by Mike Fleming.

Fleming bills himself as a true-blue conservative, although he occasionally advocates government intervention in problems best left to personal and private solution. For example, when discussing the recent shootings in Mississippi, he started his show with the idea that the employer was responsible for keeping the workplace gun-free with guards, metal detectors, and other coercive mechanisms. Only when several callers raised the idea of the employer supporting personal protection - including concealed carry - did he back off his idea.

Fleming's best shows, however, are the ones where Ramirez appears with another of his conservative buddies, Paul Shanklin. Shanklin is the voice impersonator responsible for many, if not most, of the musical parodies used by Rush Limbaugh, and the two of them skewer democrats like chickens ready for roasting.
212 posted on 07/21/2003 6:23:11 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: UncleDick
Thanks UncleDick.

He's actually alerting conservatives to what the liberals are attempting.

Ramirez is outraged at what they've been trying to do to W.

213 posted on 07/21/2003 6:23:25 AM PDT by GEC
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To: jern
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214 posted on 07/21/2003 6:31:16 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: JustPiper; DoughtyOne; Destro
My first opinion on this cartoon before I read any of the posts and before I read anything about Ramirez is that Bush lets politics control his life. I Ramirez may have conservative intentions but to the daily newspaper reader, this cartoon would seem anti-Bush. Not many readers will take the time to investigate a cartoon that they don't understand. They will take it at first glance as I did and move on. It's a very tasteless cartoon. He should have used "politicians" instead of "politics".
215 posted on 07/21/2003 6:48:21 AM PDT by m1-lightning (Liberals are mad they don't get a discount at Six Flags over Baghdad)
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To: jern
A very powerful cartoon - one I'm sure will get the artist a visit from the friendly folks at the Secret Service - but also one I see speaking a profound truth.

What I get out of this at first glance is that the left is trying to destroy the president, for political gain, and it also tells me, bsaed on what I know about the photo this cartoon brings to mind, is that we are, right now, at the point where they just might succeed if we don't do something - the gun is about to go off, and we can either interfere and stop the Left, or they WILL succeed...

We must recognize that the Left is at war, and we can no longer afford to treat them as mere political opponents. They see us as the enemy, and it's time for us to view them in the same light...


The truth is never pretty, and sometimes people need a smack to the face in order for them to see it...
216 posted on 07/21/2003 7:43:38 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Giving Cathryn Crawford The Bird Since 2003)
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To: The Wizard
You mispelled "fried."
217 posted on 07/21/2003 7:54:14 AM PDT by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: UncleDick
I'm glad to read that someone else had that reaction.

The South Vietnamese officer who shot a VietCong guerilla depicted in a Pulitzer-Prize winning photo (from which this cartoon draws its literary heritage) was widely derided by the leftist press.

This is most definitely a comparison of the efforts of the politicians, i.e. the Democrats, to take down President Bush in an "extra-legal" manner.

A street shooting.

218 posted on 07/21/2003 8:37:46 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: jern
Just illustrates the hatred of the left for GW...They are now using HINDSIGHT to judge his actions in Iraq. I saw Rockefeller yesterday on Tony Snow and Tony asked him why he did not speak out against the "16 words" when it happened and he admitted b/c he knew the dangers were greater than just that...i.e. the chem and bio weapons, along with the terrroist ties. In other words, he didn't speak out then b/c he did not know what he knows now...

Just like 9-11, the FBI is condemned for NOT acting prior to b/c of murky intel, etc. yet Bush does ACT vs Iraq and is condemned as well...I hope they do not hinder future actions. Truly anti-American politics at play here. Our very lives are at stake.
219 posted on 07/21/2003 8:38:21 AM PDT by jonalvy44
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To: Pharmboy
I dont know the background of the person who drew this picture. I do know however that background of the incident this is depicting in history. It is difficult to figure out what he was attempting to express with the drawing.

It could well be he is showing how politics are being used to undermind his administration.

It could also be illustrating something much more sinister, (please note sinister is another way to say the word, left.)

220 posted on 07/21/2003 9:02:09 AM PDT by mware
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