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Egypt demands return of Rosetta Stone!
The Sunday Telegraph - UK ^ | July 20, 2003 | Charlotte Edwardes and Catherine Milner

Posted on 07/20/2003 10:18:03 AM PDT by UnklGene

Egypt demands return of the Rosetta Stone By Charlotte Edwardes and Catherine Milner (Filed: 20/07/2003)

Egypt is demanding that the Rosetta Stone, a 2,000-year-old relic and one of the British Museum's most important exhibits, should be returned to Cairo.

The stone, which became the key to deciphering ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics, was found by Napoleon's army in 1799 in the Nile delta, but has been in Britain for the past 200 years. It forms the centrepiece of the British Museum's Egyptology collection and is seen by millions of visitors each year.

Now, in an echo of the campaign by Athens for the return of the Elgin Marbles, the Egyptian government is calling for the stone to be returned and threatening to pursue its claim "aggressively" if the British Museum does not agree to give it back voluntarily.

Zahi Hawass, the director of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Cairo, confirmed to The Telegraph that he had begun negotiations with academics and curators at the museum. He said he hoped that they would agree to "voluntarily return the stone", but gave a warning that, if the request was rejected, he would intensify his campaign to bring it back to Egypt.

"If the British want to be remembered, if they want to restore their reputation, they should volunteer to return the Rosetta Stone because it is the icon of our Egyptian identity," said Dr Hawass.

"Otherwise I will have to approach them using a different strategy. There are various stages to our negotiations. I don't want to fight anyone now, but if the British Museum doesn't act, we will have to employ a more aggressive approach with the Government. I don't care if people know my strategy, the artefacts stolen from Egypt must come back."

Dr Hawass said that he had been discussing a possible three-month loan of the stone with the museum. "More immediately, we are prepared to accept it peacefully on a temporary loan and we are in discussions about that right now. That is a short-term solution, however. Ideally, we would like the stone to come back for good."

Dr Hawass said that the Cairo Museum, where the Rosetta Stone would be kept, had a replica of the relic which it would be willing to give to the British Museum in return for the original.

The Rosetta Stone, which dates from 196 BC, was discovered by French troops in 1799 in the village of Rosette (Raschid) in the western delta of the Nile. The stone's importance was that it provided a key to understanding hieroglyphic text because it was accompanied by a Greek translation.

Although the stone was Napoleon's most coveted war acquisition, the French ceded it to Britain under the Treaty of Alexandria in 1801 and it has been exhibited in the British Museum since 1802.

Vivian Davies, the keeper of the Department of Ancient Egypt and Sudan at the museum, expressed sympathy with Dr Hawass's claim, but suggested that legislation on the repatriation of artefacts would prevent the relic's permanent return.

"Will the Rosetta Stone be returned? I would say that our priorities are elsewhere at the moment. We are working with our Egyptian colleagues to preserve the heritage of today rather than concentrate on problems - or issues, perhaps I should say - that are very old," he said.

"We would like to co-operate with the Egyptians insofar as we can under the law. It is the same law that guides us on the issue of the Elgin Marbles - the British Museum Act of 1963." This rules that no artefact can be repatriated without the permission of the museum's trustees.

Mr Davies added: "Perhaps, if I were in Dr Hawass's position, I would feel the same way. We are having constructive negotiations over the loan for three months. It's a new idea he has produced and we appreciate very much that Dr Hawass is being constructive on these matters. We enjoy working with him and his staff."

Dr Hawass, one of the world's leading Egyptologists, has pioneered a major new museum development programme and encouraged the Egyptian government to pour considerable funds into archaeological research.

The Egyptian government has asked for the stone as part of a wide-reaching programme to return "stolen" antiquities from all over the world. Among the items it wants to retrieve are the bust of Queen Nefertiti from the Berlin Museum, the statues of Hatshepsut in the Metropolitan Museum of New York and, perhaps most controversially, the obelisk in the Place de la Concorde, one of the most famous landmarks in Paris.

Dr Hawass added: "The obelisk in France is needed because the Luxor temple from which it came is left with only one. The second one should be there with it."

Last night Neil MacGregor, the director of the British Museum, was unavailable for comment, but in the past he has described the personal significance of the stone. "I remember the first visit I made to the museum was with my father at the age of eight," he said. "I was fascinated by the Rosetta Stone. I was thrilled to be able to touch it - it was uncovered at the time - and physically connect with history."

If the stone were to be moved, it would be seen by far fewer people than is the case today: the Cairo Museum has about 2.5 million visitors a year, compared to the 5.5 million who visit the British Museum annually.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antiquities; archaeology; britishmuseum; egypt; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; museums; rosettastone; uk
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1 posted on 07/20/2003 10:18:03 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
One word: "Don't."
2 posted on 07/20/2003 10:18:52 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
Egypt demands return of Rosetta Stone!

Tell them they can have Sharon Stone.

3 posted on 07/20/2003 10:20:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: UnklGene
"If the British want to be remembered, if they want to restore their reputation, they should volunteer to return the Rosetta Stone because it is the icon of our Egyptian identity,"

Funny, I thought the pyramids were the icon of Egyptian identity.

4 posted on 07/20/2003 10:20:29 AM PDT by BeerSwillr
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To: UnklGene
I'm not sure why an accident of geography gives the Cairo Museum a greater claim to the Rosetta Stone than the British Museum. Neither institution has any greater connection with the Egyptian state of 2000 years ago than the other.
5 posted on 07/20/2003 10:22:08 AM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: UnklGene
I always thought that the Rosetta Stone was the key to Babylonian cunieform writing.
6 posted on 07/20/2003 10:22:22 AM PDT by Eva
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To: UnklGene
I wonder what would happen if the Jews called for the return of Mecca and Medina, the original monotheistic religious people of the area, claiming that they were there first before the Muslim Arabs genocided them.
7 posted on 07/20/2003 10:23:41 AM PDT by xrp
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To: UnklGene
If the british museum returns everything then there wont be anything left in their museum.
8 posted on 07/20/2003 10:23:59 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: UnklGene
"If the British want to be remembered, if they want to restore their reputation, they should volunteer to return the Rosetta Stone because it is the icon of our Egyptian identity," said Dr Hawass.

Until some Islamic fanatic decides that they're a sacrilegious infidel blasphemy and decides to crush them to powder.

9 posted on 07/20/2003 10:24:27 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS, WE PRINT")
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To: UnklGene
Last time I checked, most Egyptians were Muslims. Before tourism became such an important part of their economy, I bet the Muslims held the people and culture of ancient Egypt in contempt 'cause they infidels, big time!
10 posted on 07/20/2003 10:25:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: UnklGene
I drove by a Gentleman's Club north of Boston years ago (yes...I drove by it), and on the billboard was a sign:

Now Appearing Topless on Stage
ROSSETTA STONE!

11 posted on 07/20/2003 10:29:25 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Larry Lucido
Tell them they can have Sharon Stone.

No! She does that leg-crossing thing. There's residual value there.

Send 'em Stone Phillips. Dumb first name = useless. Away with him!

12 posted on 07/20/2003 10:30:45 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: UnklGene
Because one-third is in Greek, break that portion off and send it to Athens.
13 posted on 07/20/2003 10:32:50 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: UnklGene
Sounds like they need to sue...........FRANCE!
14 posted on 07/20/2003 10:32:53 AM PDT by tet68
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To: UnklGene
Because one-third is in Greek, break that portion off and send it to Athens.
15 posted on 07/20/2003 10:32:54 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
I'm not sure why an accident of geography gives the Cairo Museum a greater claim to the Rosetta Stone than the British Museum. Neither institution has any greater connection with the Egyptian state of 2000 years ago than the other.

I'm not sure why there's a Holocaust museum in Washington D.C. when the Holocaust took place in Europe.

Anyway, despite the transition of government institutions over thousands of years, the Rosetta Stone is obviously an archaeological treasure of Egypts cultural past. IMHO, it should be returned to them, especially considering that they have now developed the cultural institutions to properly care for it. (That was not true 50~100 years ago.)

16 posted on 07/20/2003 10:35:47 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: UnklGene
It seems to me, now this is a stretch, but.......the "Egyptians" of today are not even the same as the ancients. The country has been over-run by Muslims from all over the Middle East. Just a silly theory.
18 posted on 07/20/2003 10:42:43 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( "Aspire to mediocracy"................new motto for publik skools.............)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
That's exactly what I bet they're up to.

It's gonna be called blasphemous cause old pedo mo wasn't in it, and they'll destroy it.
19 posted on 07/20/2003 10:43:20 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: UnklGene
Egypt demands . . .

'Ya mean they didn't ask nice first and say "pretty please?"

Then hell with 'em. Keep it for another thousand years.

20 posted on 07/20/2003 10:46:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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