Egypt demands return of Rosetta Stone!

The Sunday Telegraph - UK ^ | July 20, 2003 | Charlotte Edwardes and Catherine Milner

[MrsEmmaPeel]

I really have already addressed the issues brought up by the cultural superiorists on this thread. But to recap, here’s the argument in a nutshell:

• The British THEMSELVES admitted in the 1816 report that the Elgin marbles were acquired through theft.
• The British THEMSELVES promised to return the marbles to Greece.
• Nothing has happened.
• There was a lot of discussion on how the marbles were DESTROYED under British "care".

Now, there are many who have the point of view:

• The Greeks are a bunch of (insert insult here) – so who cares?
• The British have the superior civilization, so who cares?
• Finders keepers, so who cares?
• The marbles are really more British than Greek, (even though there was no Britain in 500 BC), so who cares?
• If the British did destroy the marbles, who cares? At least they're bveing preserved for all of humanity.

Then the insults – because I mention fact (like the report of 1816, etc), therefore I am (insert insult here).

NOT ONE PERSON has had the courage to answer the hypothetical I raised in item #132 on 07/22/2003 at 5:45:21 AM EDT. Since it is now 12/30/2004 3:57 PM EST, that makes it 527 Days 9 Hours 12 Mins (and counting) since raising that point.

I guess its too much to wish for an honest discussion and an civilized answer.

[Willie Green]

LOL! No problemo!
It's always entertaining to see one of these old threads suddenly get a new pair of legs and take-off again!

[Docbarleypop]

thank you for the insult of being a "cultural superiorists" i am just sick of this garbage. my family (clan) once had a castle in scotland, due to some misfortune we no longer have it, however, since it is in the british trust i can go visit its ruins. i suppose i should kick and scream and say that i was wronged and demand restitution but this was over a hundred years ago. ok so the museum in the past received something through dubious methods, it was a norm at the time. ive been to many museums in europe and have seen aztec and maya artifacts, there is a hotel in japan that has a partial viking longboat. i suppose all of these were purchased through official government means and not private dealers or adventurers. actually, i suggest that we give the rosetta stone to Greece since it was written in greek that it must have been misplaced by some athenian traveller.

[aBootes]

Why doesn't everyone on the planet just make up their list of grievances all at once and get it over with? Give the UN something to do - sort them all out in neat piles, do nothing, and say "we're working on it".

For a preview of the action, we can watch how the UN handles the SE Asian tsunami relief.

[Sam Cree]

My basic feelings on this are: Screw Egypt.

[MarIboro]

You are either a intellectually dishonest person or a dingbat.

My post to you dealt with the subject of the thread, namely Egypt's demand that England return the Rosetta stone to them. I didn't mention the Elgin marbles, you brought them into the discussion.

You failed to address my argument that a Greek king ruled Egypt at the time the Rosetta stone was carved and that the inscriptions on the stone are a tribute to him.

This being the case doesn't logic dictate that the Greek people have as much of a claim to the stone as the Egyptians?

I also asked you what would be the repercussion's if every museum in the world were forced to return every artifact to its country of origin? You failed to address this as well.

I said that I found the argument of returning the Rosetta stone to Egypt rather naive because

1.A Greece ruled Egypt at the time of the stone's inception and the Greek's could also lay claim to ownership.

2.It is naive to believe that every museum in the world should return all their artifacts to their country of origin, which is what your position leads to.

I also commented on your choice of a screen name "Mrs Emma Peel" being curious because your posts exhibit a disdain for England and Emma Peel was a British agent on the show "The Avengers".

[MarIboro]

You said....

NOT ONE PERSON has had the courage to answer the hypothetical I raised in item #132 on 07/22/2003 at 5:45:21 AM EDT. Since it is now 12/30/2004 3:57 PM EST, that makes it 527 Days 9 Hours 12 Mins (and counting) since raising that point.

I guess its too much to wish for an honest discussion and an civilized answer.

BS...... You recieved a reply to your post on the same day you posted it, 7/22/03. You just did'nt like the reply you recieved so you ignored it...

Try listening instead of just running your yap.

To: MrsEmmaPeel The Declaration of Independence is part of US history.

Something indians made isn't.

Even the current day Egyptologist seem to think the ancient egyptians were ASIANS. They all say that TODAYS Egyptians are a mix of arab, medditerranian, ROMAN, etc blood.

Your DoI example doesn't work. To compare it to the Rosetta Stone, you need to make your example the british (or whoever) taking a bunch of arroheads, baskets and pottery.

149 posted on 07/22/2003 11:50:21 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

[MrsEmmaPeel]

You are either a intellectually dishonest person or a dingbat.

Wow -- what a winning line. That's really inspiring me to want to truly communicate with you -- NOT ...

[Killing Time]

NOT ONE PERSON has had the courage to answer the hypothetical I raised in item #132 on 07/22/2003 at 5:45:21 AM EDT. Since it is now 12/30/2004 3:57 PM EST, that makes it 527 Days 9 Hours 12 Mins (and counting) since raising that point.

OK. The documents you mention would belong to Britain as spoils of war.

Now will you address the points in my #205, in particular the hypothetical concerning Stonehenge?