WE'VE ALL BEEN HOSED BY THE N.O.W. GANG: Why I Feel Sorry for Kobe

[Cinnamon Girl]

It's the whole "NO MEANS NO" brainwashing Gen X Y and Z have been receiving since we were in kindergarten. "NO MEANS NO" no matter what position you are in, or how you got yourself there.

Here's what I think happened: this girl went up to Kobe's bedroom in the hotel, like she said. She started having intimate contact with Kobe, they ended up in bed, and while they were in the middle of the act, the girl starts freaking out that she's only 19, Kobe isn't wearing protection, and she doesn't want to get pregnant. So she starts telling him to stop. But at that point, any man in that situation doesn't have a lot of concentration going on in his brain, and Kobe naturally wanted to complete the act, so maybe he restrained her a little.

Afterward, the girl was so upset, she ran to the police or whatever, knowing what she has been taught her whole life: "NO MEANS NO" even if you went up to a guy's room at night, even if you made out with him, even if you got in bed with him and starting doing stuff. "NO MEANS NO!!!"

At what point do we as a society come back to our senses and stop telling our girls that they can do all kinds of seductive things and be in all kinds of private, intimate situations with guys and if the guy starts making moves on her and she decides she doesn't like it all of a sudden, it's all the guy's fault and he needs to go to prison for life?

[BunnySlippers]

Does anyone still believe Magic got AIDS from having sex with women?

Magic has some feminine mannerisms. Maybe he's bi-sexual.

[mdittmar]

"Your Cheating Heart"

[Cinnamon Girl]

No. I grew up a Celtics fan. I've never even seen Kobe play on t.v.

[SerpentDove]

Just wanted you to consider all angles.

[LaraCroft]

Yeah, because blond or not, anyone who doesn't slavishly follow sports must be stupid, huh?

[pepperhead]

I don't think he did it either. I haven't really heard enough evidence to tell if he did. He always seemed like such a good guy. But so did OJ!

[BunnySlippers]

I bet it was a BLT on Rye too, with an extra side of kosher pickles.

My favorite!!!

Why didn't she call the police immediately? Did her parents PUSH her to go forward? Did they influence her?

What about the two non-crime related visits by the police to the girl's home?

On Larry Elder tonight, someone on there said that her family has already retained a civil lawyer to hit Kobe in the pocketbook (even if they lose the first trial).

[Catspaw]

Fact is, we don't know one way or another. The possibilities are: he raped her. He didn't rape her. Or somewhere inbetween.

[winodog]

The first time I saw kobe I nicknamed him lowbeam and have called him that since. He is living up to his nick.

[SerpentDove]

>>The possibilities are: he raped her. He didn't rape her. Or somewhere inbetween.<<

Agreed. That sums up my point quite nicely.

[bethelgrad]

was it on the lips? i was in junior high during those years and was a huge Pistons (bad boys) fan. i remember them kissing but for some reason remember it being on the cheek. either way i still thought it was weird.

[verity]

That too!

[Cyber Ninja]

Not exactly. My poorly made point was that it would not be unusual for anyone (who might not follow sports) to not know Kobe's marital status or fatherhood status.

And I pointed out she was blond because they are the smarter verity. </s>

CB^))

[Cinnamon Girl]

But OJ didn't seem like a nice guy to the police in Brentwood. Remember that Nichole had called for help after OJ beat her a few times.

[Enterprise]

"Or somewhere in between."

Well, if he raped her, it was definitely somewhere in between.

[SoCar]

It's seems as if there's a huge reluctance here to even consider that she might be telling the truth. People beliece what they want to believe and many do not want their image of Kobe shattered. As a non NBA fan I do not understand his allure. The simple fact is that the D.A. took his time and certainly does not want to be embarrassed by presenting a weak case. In addition, he sought advice from several other D.A.s. They obviously believe it's true and that counts for something in my book.

As an aside, just for once I would like to see a high profile wife who leaves her husband for cheating. This "stand by your man" doormat attitude is getting old. What message does it send to our children? It takes more courage to leave then to stay.

[mystery-ak]

Juanita did not go to Clinton's hotel room...Clinton came to Jaunita's room after he cancelled the meeting.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Love the title of your post, it is so true for so many reasons :)

You bring up a very valid point about "no means no". Besides not going into a strange man's, or a date's apartment, there was a long list of do's and don'ts back in the day. I remember when I started dating, my dad told me to check the gas gauge on the guys car. Remember, oh man I ran out of gas?

I've been wondering if the young woman in question actually brought food up to the room, because this hasn't been mentioned. I don't know what to think, but I do know that the DA in this case has gone through the evidence with a fine toothed comb. I wonder if Kobe was on painkillers for his knee? Sometimes people can have a bad reaction to certain meds...

[A CA Guy]

Agreed!

Except for the glue...

[SoCar]

You are correct. Juanita let Clinton into her hotel room. And because of that fact many RATS would discount her story. Can you see my point at all?