WE'VE ALL BEEN HOSED BY THE N.O.W. GANG: Why I Feel Sorry for Kobe

[Cinnamon Girl]

It's the whole "NO MEANS NO" brainwashing Gen X Y and Z have been receiving since we were in kindergarten. "NO MEANS NO" no matter what position you are in, or how you got yourself there.

Here's what I think happened: this girl went up to Kobe's bedroom in the hotel, like she said. She started having intimate contact with Kobe, they ended up in bed, and while they were in the middle of the act, the girl starts freaking out that she's only 19, Kobe isn't wearing protection, and she doesn't want to get pregnant. So she starts telling him to stop. But at that point, any man in that situation doesn't have a lot of concentration going on in his brain, and Kobe naturally wanted to complete the act, so maybe he restrained her a little.

Afterward, the girl was so upset, she ran to the police or whatever, knowing what she has been taught her whole life: "NO MEANS NO" even if you went up to a guy's room at night, even if you made out with him, even if you got in bed with him and starting doing stuff. "NO MEANS NO!!!"

At what point do we as a society come back to our senses and stop telling our girls that they can do all kinds of seductive things and be in all kinds of private, intimate situations with guys and if the guy starts making moves on her and she decides she doesn't like it all of a sudden, it's all the guy's fault and he needs to go to prison for life?

[Keith in Iowa]

I don't feel a darn bit sorry for Kobe. He wouldn't be in this position if he kept his pants on. Real simple.

[rogue yam]

Nuts and sluts!

Sidney, is that you?

[riri]

Who, the baby?

No the wife. I don't remember that Seinfeld, incidently.

[Catspaw]

I expect this to be a brutal trial.

That it's going to be. But given that folks in my neck of the woods all but convicted Packer Mark Chmura and had their minds changed during the trial--he was acquitted--I'm not going to take a side until the trial.

[winodog]

You think he contracted aids from women? I remember when he and Isaiah would kiss at halfcourt. The boy is freaky.

[isthisnickcool]

Kobe, will you have this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife, to live together in the holy estate of matrimony? Will you love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all others, will you keep only unto her, as long as you both shall live?

Kobe: I do. Yea, sure. LOL!

Vanessa, will you have this man to be your lawfully wedded husband, to live together in the holy estate of matrimony? Will you love him, comfort him, honor and keep him, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all others, will you keep only unto him, as long as you both shall live?

Maria: I do.

Who gives this woman to be married to this man?

Person: I do.

Kobe and Vanessa now hold each other’s hand. (While Kobe checks out the butt on one of the bride's maids)

Kobe repeats:

I, Kobe (snicker), take you, Vanessa, (snicker) to be my lawfully wedded wife; to have and to hold from this day forward; for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death do us part.

Vanessa repeats (while Kobe grabs her sisters butt):

I, Vanessa, take you, Kobe, to be my lawfully wedded husband; to have and to hold from this day forward; for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death do us part.

Exchanging of the rings. As each ring is placed on the ring finger of the left hand, you say, “With this ring, I thee wed.”

Those whom God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

[Tribune7]

Kobe is an idiot for jeopardizing his career and accompanying wealth.

Absolutely. But that doesn't mean he has to spend the next 30 years in jail.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Does anyone still believe Magic got AIDS from having sex with women?

[winodog]

I dont feel at all sorry for him.

[SoCar]

Women can be rather psychotic.

That's a pathetic statement. Not believing he would rape her because he could get anyone and didn't need some "twit from room service" is pathetic too.

Oh and BTW everyone, Juanita went up to Clinton's room and we all believe her. Let's wait for the evidence before we trash this "twit" and all women as you did.

[pepperhead]

Maybe she is playing the NBA sex lottery.

[SerpentDove]

Here's an angle to consider, also.

Maybe he raped her.

???

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Are you sure it was a woman MAGIC doinked?

What does Magic stand for?

My Ass Got Infected Coach

[riri]

Does anyone still believe Magic got AIDS from having sex with women?

Yeah, I always kinda thought he was involved in some kinda group thing. Maybe had some kinda shanker and came into contact with another mans semen or something.

[BunnySlippers]

but I think this is an angle that should be considered. And it doesn't seem likely that a guy who doesn't have a reputation for hitting or abusing women, would suddenly become violent to the point of rape

I really, really don't want to think that Kobe did this ... but I have to believe that if Kobe did rape immediately after meeting her that he must have a history of doing this. If anyone else comes forward it's over.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Oh. Thanks for that unique insight, SerpentDove.

[GWfan]

Let me guess, you are a laker fan.

[Cyber Ninja]

My guess is that she wanted to stay and did not know he was married. When he gave her the heave-ho and told her that he was married, that is when all her yelling started.

Or maybe he offered her money, and that set her off.

And before you say any thing, discussing this in the office today, a 26 year old (blond) woman did not know that Kobe was married or that he has a daughter.

CB^)

[winodog]

Am I the only one that wanted to puke when he and Isiah Thomas would kiss on the lips before the game in the championship on national TV?

[LaraCroft]

I think what happened was that Kobe called for room service, and this girl had just gotten of the phone with her boyfriend, who had broken up with her. She was devastated, but was still at work, so she took the order up to the room. I bet it was a BLT on Rye too, with an extra side of kosher pickles.

Then I bet what happened is that she brought the tray, but Kobe could tell she had been crying, so he asked her what was wrong, so she told him, in broken english probably, about her boyfriend. I bet she was pregnant too, so very distraught over the whole thing.

Now I bet the Kobe was going through the same thing with his wife at home... you know how post partum women are, and she had just kicked him out so here he was, all that testosterone and no one to bang for almost a week. That's just asking for trouble.

One thing leads to another, and they are consoling each other, but Men are from Mars and Women are from.. well you know the story, and she was thinking lets cuddle in bed, and he was thinking I'm gonna bang a 17 year old, and then it was too late. I think she consented to the sex, but then when everyone found out, she freaked out and made up the story about rape.

I bet it wasn't really rape either, but there probably is some evidence because we all know how (ahem) large black men are.

But then it could have been rape, because he was just on TV crying about it.. and that says GUILTY bigger than life, eh? Also, his wife is like kicking him out last month, he just humiliated her in the public eye, and she is sitting there rubbing his hand and making bambi eyes at him? She isn't stupid.. she see's her cash cow rumbling into hamburger before her eyes and she will do whatever groveling at the alter of Hillary to acquit him.

Yeah, that's what happened.