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WE'VE ALL BEEN HOSED BY THE N.O.W. GANG: Why I Feel Sorry for Kobe

Posted on 07/18/2003 6:47:40 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

It's the whole "NO MEANS NO" brainwashing Gen X Y and Z have been receiving since we were in kindergarten. "NO MEANS NO" no matter what position you are in, or how you got yourself there.

Here's what I think happened: this girl went up to Kobe's bedroom in the hotel, like she said. She started having intimate contact with Kobe, they ended up in bed, and while they were in the middle of the act, the girl starts freaking out that she's only 19, Kobe isn't wearing protection, and she doesn't want to get pregnant. So she starts telling him to stop. But at that point, any man in that situation doesn't have a lot of concentration going on in his brain, and Kobe naturally wanted to complete the act, so maybe he restrained her a little.

Afterward, the girl was so upset, she ran to the police or whatever, knowing what she has been taught her whole life: "NO MEANS NO" even if you went up to a guy's room at night, even if you made out with him, even if you got in bed with him and starting doing stuff. "NO MEANS NO!!!"

At what point do we as a society come back to our senses and stop telling our girls that they can do all kinds of seductive things and be in all kinds of private, intimate situations with guys and if the guy starts making moves on her and she decides she doesn't like it all of a sudden, it's all the guy's fault and he needs to go to prison for life?


TOPICS: US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 40milliondollarmoron; clinton; clintonlegacy; consensualact; consentingadults; itsjustsex; kobe; nationalorgrewomen; nikecondoms; now; nownags; putsomeiceonthat; rape; rapist; sex; sexualabuse; sexualharassment; womensmovement
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To: mystery-ak
But a basketball super star doesn't commit rape. Don't you know that? They are beyond doing anything like that.
101 posted on 07/18/2003 7:46:13 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Kobe checks in, and checks out hot blonde at front desk. Kobe calls to front desk and askes for {toothbrush, extra towel, comb, extra shampoo...} girl goes to room, Kobe asks her in and rapes her. LET'S REMEMBER KOBE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL AFTER THE INCIDENT , kinda shoots down the authors "poor Kobe drivil.
102 posted on 07/18/2003 7:46:37 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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To: marajade
May I ask who Baden is?
103 posted on 07/18/2003 7:46:40 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: LaraCroft
LOL BIG TIME!
104 posted on 07/18/2003 7:47:08 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Really? What about Twanna Brawley? Spelling...
105 posted on 07/18/2003 7:47:10 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I just think the law is getting more and more unreasonable with regard to men and sexuality. Apparently, in CA now, even if a man is just about the complete the act, if the woman says "I changed my mind" he's supposed say goodbye or it's rape.

Not only that, youg women aren't being taught about men and sexuality. They watch all these crappy tv shows and see people switching partners every week, but when push comes to shove, (yuck, bad pun)they get cold feet. Girls have to be taught some of that boring, old fashioned morality. Responsibility for your safety ultimately starts with you.

106 posted on 07/18/2003 7:47:13 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (You bring tar, I'll bring feathers....recall Davis in 03!!!)
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To: Diplomat
Baden is a big time pathologist... He's up there with Henry Lee...
107 posted on 07/18/2003 7:47:56 PM PDT by marajade
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To: SamAdams76
Either way, Kobe was stupid for bringing her into his hotel room. He's a married man, after all. When you are a married man, the only thing other girls are good for is trouble. And lots of it.

My guess is that this wasn't the first time

108 posted on 07/18/2003 7:48:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: winodog
What do Magic and Len Bias have in common?
109 posted on 07/18/2003 7:48:30 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: marajade
Does he have insider info and thus knows that the physical evidence is only bruising, or is he just wishing and hoping for Kobe's sake?
110 posted on 07/18/2003 7:49:04 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Cinnamon Girl
So...who takes the blame for what Kobe did? Certainly not Kobe! Why, even he said he didn't do anything! A famous person would never do anything like that, right? I mean, we hold our idols up to standards they have to meet, right? And I am sure that there will be some reason as to why something happened. I hope Jesse Jackson gets in on this to defend him.
111 posted on 07/18/2003 7:49:10 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (....going to get popcorn.....back soon.....)
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To: riri
I Suspect Mr Bryant was "Beathtakingly Stupid" with Regards to this 19yr old "Twit!"

This is a terrible Tragedy for ALL involved!,(Kobe, the NBA, the IGNORANT "Victim," Professional Sports, Kobe's Friends & Admirers, Kobe's Family--especially--, & the Friends & Family of Kobe's "accuser," who just cost a LOT of people Tens of Millions of Dollars!)

This Young Lady's Public Accusation has--in & of Itself--cost a LOT of people Tens of Millions of Dollars in UNRECOVERABLE lost Income.

If she is Correct--So Be It!!

If She is Lying, There can be NO "Compensation" for the Permanent Damage She has Caused this Man & Those He Supports!

The SAD part is--I DOUBT that a 19yr old can understand the potential damage her accusation will cause to SO MANY People!

IF she is EXACTLY CORRECT in her "Accusation,--SO BE IT!

If she has allowed her Hormones/ego/greed to color her accusation, she can NEVER reimberse those she has Harmed.

This IS NOT--& CAN NEVER BE--a "Simple Rape Case!"

BY HER ACCUSATION this young Woman has FOREVER destroyed Mr Bryant!

Sadly, I DOUBT that the "Accuser" had ANY CONCEPT of the Financial Implications of her "Complaint."

Being Young, Naive, & Stupid DOES HAVE Consequences!

Kobe can NEVER afford to pay the Level of "Blackmail" "Ms Rape Victim" could have Extracted had She NOT Destroyed his Potential Earning Power by branding him a Rapist!

If she WAS RAPED, she has the satisfaction of destroying him.

If she WASN't raped, she can NEVER repay the Damage she caused.

I HOPE she is telling the truth--otherwise, she has caused tens of millions of dollars worth of damage to MANY people!

Doc

112 posted on 07/18/2003 7:49:32 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay ( 2)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
They're both black? They both play basketball? I give; what do they have in common?
113 posted on 07/18/2003 7:49:55 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (....going to get popcorn.....back soon.....)
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To: Diplomat
He just stated that there wouldn't be any vaginal evidence to tell the difference between consensual or non consensual sex... that there'd have to be other physical evidence to support the rape charge...
114 posted on 07/18/2003 7:50:19 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Yes I have, but your missing the point. People lie, you add money into the equation they will lie even harder.
115 posted on 07/18/2003 7:50:53 PM PDT by pepperhead (If the glove don't fit you must acquit)
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To: bcoffey; SerpentDove
"Love her boundaries."

That is exactly what I mean. And if she agrees to the code word thing, bang, you’re in. If not, Denny’s is too good. Take her home and go have a beer with your buds.

CB^Q

116 posted on 07/18/2003 7:51:20 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: pepperhead
This is a high profile case... if she was the one who lied, she'd be the one being charged, not Kobe...
117 posted on 07/18/2003 7:51:36 PM PDT by marajade
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
What do Magic and Len Bias have in common?

They both got into some bad crack.

118 posted on 07/18/2003 7:51:45 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: LaraCroft
You know, I figured the original poster is fantasizing about what happened. But yours takes the cake (although I know you were kidding). Not sure about the original tho. These people have too much time on thier hands.
119 posted on 07/18/2003 7:52:01 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (....going to get popcorn.....back soon.....)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Oh, fudge!
120 posted on 07/18/2003 7:52:42 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (....going to get popcorn.....back soon.....)
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