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Gay priest's sadness over Bishop row
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| Monday, 7 July, 2003
| Christopher Wardale
Posted on 07/07/2003 11:59:38 AM PDT by presidio9
My name is Christopher Wardale. I am 57 years old. I am a priest in the Church of England. I am Vicar of Holy Trinity Darlington.
I am gay and am now in the 20th year of a loving and stable same-sex relationship.
I am deeply saddened by the resignation of Jeffrey John as the next bishop of Reading.
It has become clear from the public wranglings of the past month that the Church of England, of which I have been a member all my life, is more concerned with power struggles than the ministry of faithful priests.
The long-term damage to the Church of England will be immense and will cause untold internal divisions for years to come.
Canon Jeffrey John declined to take up his new post It has become clear that the members of one particular faction of the Church feel that they have won a power struggle which they will now use to increase their influence over many issues.
I am certain that the Jeffrey John row is not about the gay issue, per se, but about the nature of authority in the Church.
In the name of a bland unity the Church has sacrificed principles of honour and credibility.
It is also clear that the Church's reputation in society has plummeted. I am deeply saddened.
I have been a priest for nearly 25 years.
I made no secret of my sexuality when I was pointed towards ordination.
I have never trumpeted my sexuality but neither have I ever lied about it, nor about my long, stable and deeply loving relationship with Malcolm Macourt, a now retired academic.
Like me, my partner is a life long member of the Anglican Church.
My work as a priest in the parish situation has never been questioned, nor my integrity as a priest.
In my present parish, where I have been for over 11 years, my ministry is to an inner urban area, to schools and colleges, to young and old, to those who live in the area and those who work in the area.
I am welcomed to work with the Local Authority in Education matters. I am chaplain to the local theatre, the local branch of the Royal British Legion, and the local Hospice.
I train curates, I tutor students. I am welcomed and affirmed in my ministry.
In the wider Church life has not been so easy.
'Stabbed in the back'
Sometimes I have found myself being praised in public but stabbed in the back by some church leaders.
When I came to Darlington in 1992 the only group who would not invite my partner and I to social gatherings were the local CofE clergy (in case my partner upset the clergy wives!).
One neighbouring Vicar even refused me into his house saying I was the Antichrist.
But that was 11 years ago - and now we are made very welcome throughout.
As the world grows in understanding and affirmation of the breadth and variety of loving, stable relationships, which bring joy and happiness, I am deeply saddened that the Church should move to evermore entrenched positions over the gay issue.
The Church of England has been seriously debating this issue for 24 years (starting with the Yates Report in 1979) - what more is there to say?
There are gay people, there are gay people living in loving stable relationships, there are gay priests.
I am proud to be one of them.
I am proud to be able to bring my God given skills, and the strength from my relationship to the service of God and his people in this part of His Kingdom.
I am deeply saddened that I am seen, with my brother and sister gay and lesbian priests, as 'an issue' and not as a person.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: churchofengland; deviant; episcopalian; gay; homosexual; priest; protestant; queer
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posted on
07/07/2003 11:59:39 AM PDT
by
presidio9
To: presidio9
"I am deeply saddened"
Hope he called the Senate Minority Leader's office for permission to use it.
To: presidio9
If he's "gay", how can he be deeply saddened? Another gross misuse of the word "gay."
Hey, gang, I did a word search for "homosexual" in that article and couldn't find any such word. Wonder why?
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posted on
07/07/2003 12:06:02 PM PDT
by
laweeks
To: presidio9
"I am deeply saddened that I am seen, with my brother and sister gay and lesbian priests, as 'an issue' and not as a person."
I am deeply ANGERED that right-thinking anglicans are painted with the same strawman's brush! You are not considered an "issue", but rather a failed priest. You are, as all human beings, subject to sin and death, and are instructed to turn from it when you can, and ACKNOWLEDGE your sin as what it is.
To embrace your sin as a lifestyle is completely wrong. God does consider it a sin, from what I can tell, since he destroyed whole cities for it.
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posted on
07/07/2003 12:07:38 PM PDT
by
Frank_Discussion
(May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
To: presidio9
ewwwwwwwwwwww!
5
posted on
07/07/2003 12:08:43 PM PDT
by
MudPuppy
(Semper Fidelis!)
To: presidio9
How can you have a "loving and stable relationship" with someone of the same sex? This guy's a nut and should be immediately thrown out of whatever religion he lays claim to. They don't have the guts to do it. Why did they waste print with this pervert's drivel?
6
posted on
07/07/2003 12:09:30 PM PDT
by
laweeks
To: Semper Paratus
I am a life long member of the Church of England/Episcopal USA. I don't attend anymore. When I am SURE that the Priest giving the Sunday service is not queer, I will start going again.
7
posted on
07/07/2003 12:11:25 PM PDT
by
Blake#1
To: presidio9
Look, if he was truly "born gay" I can't condmen him for that. I also can't condemn him for having sinned. I CAN, however, condmen him for glorifying sin and trumpeting it.
8
posted on
07/07/2003 12:12:18 PM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: presidio9
What does he expect, praise for his sinful lifestyle choice?
9
posted on
07/07/2003 12:12:42 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
Comment #10 Removed by Moderator
To: presidio9
As a Christian I believe in
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
There is nothing in the Old testament that Jesus is not apart of
God the Son (Jesus) and God the Father and God the Holy Spirit ARE ONE IN THE SAME
Three in One
Jesus said in the old testament exactly how He and God the Father and God the Son stand on the issue of sodomy (both Sodom and Gomorah no longer stand as a testimony)
It is an abomination to God to Jesus and the Holy Spirit
You cannot be a Christian and advocate this lifestyle
11
posted on
07/07/2003 12:16:49 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: Rodney King
Look, if he was truly "born gay" I can't condmen him for that. Sure, but since no one is "born gay," that's never an issue. Homosexuality is a learned deviant behavior. It is reinforced by habitual practice.
12
posted on
07/07/2003 12:17:01 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(RUN AL, RUN!!!)
To: presidio9
Fair enough.
13
posted on
07/07/2003 12:17:43 PM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: presidio9
Like me, my partner is a life long member of the Anglican Church.Sin can be comfortrable when it's never confronted.
14
posted on
07/07/2003 12:18:03 PM PDT
by
tbpiper
To: SoothingDave
But OTOH, what else could we expect from a church founded on a selfish king's temper-tantrum that the pope wouldn't grant him a divorce? I guess this is why they put that section in the tract that I sent you.
To: presidio9
I am gay and am now in the 20th year of a loving and stable same-sex relationship. And he is scripturally disqualified to serve in a pastoral role. (1 Tim 3:2)
To: presidio9
It is reinforced by habitual practiceSpot on!
17
posted on
07/07/2003 1:18:30 PM PDT
by
FBFranco
To: presidio9
It is also clear that the Church's reputation in society has plummeted. I am deeply saddened.Thanks to "churchpersons" like you!
Get out!
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posted on
07/07/2003 1:20:32 PM PDT
by
FBFranco
To: presidio9
It looks as if the new Archbishop of Canterbury has opened a can of worms.
19
posted on
07/07/2003 1:22:33 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: All
I'M BACK!!!
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