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Brazil, France propose int'l tax on arms sales to eliminate world hunger
World NetDaily ^ | June 3, 2003 | staff writer

Posted on 06/03/2003 7:45:50 AM PDT by yankeedame

THE POWER TO DESTROY
Global tax on guns?

Brazil, France propose international levy on arms sales to eliminate world hunger

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Some world leaders at the G8 summit meeting are floating the idea of a global tax on arms sales, including – at French President Jacques Chirac's suggestion – a tax on gun purchases by individuals.

In a speech at the annual meeting of the "Group of Eight," or G8, Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva pushed the arms-sales tax as a scheme whereby the world's wealthiest nations could fund efforts to eliminate world hunger, reports Bloomberg News.

The "Group of Eight" includes the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Japan and Russia.

Citing the Brazilian paper Folha de S. Paulo, Bloomberg reports Lula said such taxes would create "a global fund capable of giving food to those who are hungry and for creating the conditions to end the causes of hunger."

Calling the Brazilian leader's proposal "forceful and convincing," Chirac was reluctant to back a levy on weapons manufacturers in France and elsewhere, but suggested a global tax on firearms purchases made by individuals, said the report.

"Lula's idea is a simple one. People must be able to eat three times a day, and that is not the case today," Chirac added, according to Agence France-Presse. "This unacceptable situation must be debated."

Lula's speech containing the controversial proposal came after a meeting of leaders of 12 developing countries with the G-8. The Brazilian leader also suggested wealthy creditor nations could donate part of the debt payments they receive back into a global fund to relieve hunger.

Chirac later said the proposed tax on arms sales might serve as an alternative to the "Tobin tax," which has been floated previously as a possible global tax on currency transactions, according to a CNSNews.com report. "Perhaps a tax on the sale of weapons would be quite justified," Chirac said, according to CNSNews.com. "I'm very much in favor of studying this proposal. For the time being, that's all he's asked. There's lots of trade in weapons, and there's no doubt whatsoever that this trade attracts everyone's concern."

The very thought of a global tax on arms sales and possibly even on individual gun purchases is like walking on glass to many, who feel doubly threatened by a global tax and by another encroachment on private gun-ownership. Although many in public policy positions might downplay such concerns as overblown or even paranoid, global bodies do have a long, if rarely reported, history of trying to foster various sorts of international gun bans.

As far back as Sept. 24, 1999, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan called on members of the Security Council to "tackle one of the key challenges in preventing conflict in the next century" – the proliferation and "easy availability" of small arms and light weapons, which Annan identified as the "primary tools of violence" in conflicts throughout the world. (Though the terms tend to be used interchangeably, the United Nations defines small arms as weapons designed for personal use, while light weapons are those designed for several persons operating as a crew. Together, they account for virtually every kind of firearm from revolvers, pistols, rifles, carbines and light machine guns all the way to heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns, mortars up to 100 mm caliber, and land mines.)

"Even in societies not beset by civil war, the easy availability of small arms has in many cases contributed to violence and political instability," said Annan at that time. "Controlling that easy availability is a prerequisite for a successful peace-building process."

Talk is one thing, but the Security Council then unanimously adopted the "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms." The 26-member group's various recommendations, two dozen in all, add up to a comprehensive program for worldwide gun control, and call for a total ban on private ownership of "assault rifles." A few of the recommendations:

All small arms and light weapons which are not under legal civilian possession and which are not required for the purposes of national defense and internal security, should be collected and destroyed by States as expeditiously as possible.

All States should determine in their national laws and regulations which arms are permitted for civilian possession and the conditions under which they can be used.

All States should ensure that they have in place adequate laws, regulations and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the legal possession of small arms and light weapons and over their transfer in order ... to prevent illicit trafficking.

States are encouraged to integrate measures to control ammunition ... into prevention and reduction measures relating to small arms and light weapons.

States should work toward ... appropriate national legislation, regulations and licensing requirements that define conditions under which firearms can be acquired, used and traded by private persons. In particular, they should consider the prohibition of unrestricted trade and private ownership of small arms and light weapons specifically designed for military purposes, such as automatic guns (e.g., assault rifles and machine-guns). The report notes with approval countries like China that have enacted measures to "strengthen legal or regulatory controls." China reported that some 300,000 "illicit" guns were seized and destroyed by officials acting in response to "new and more stringent national regulations that have come into force ... on the control on guns within the country and on arms exports."

France, too, in 1998 "acted to reinforce governmental control over military and civilian arms and ammunition, and introduced more rigorous measures regulating the holding of arms by civilians."

A State Department official, requesting anonymity, has previously told WND "the United Nations will not dictate domestic gun control for any nation. They can make recommendations and nations can act on those recommendations as they see fit, but we will never have the United Nations telling countries what they should do."

Questioned about specific recommendations, he replied, "Those are just recommendations – and surprisingly, a number of countries, including the U.S., take them up on those recommendations. In fact, we support all 24 of those recommendations."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; food; guncontrol; hunger; lightweapons; secondamendment; smallarms; unitednations; weasels
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To: feinswinesuksass
I am impressed by the self-sacrifice of France and Brazil for proposing such a tax. I have a better idea as to how these two countries can really be self-sacrificing:

I propose a global tax on COFFEE AND WINE to fund food for the hungry. That's what I would call putting money where your mouth is.
41 posted on 06/03/2003 11:45:06 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: winner3000
I propose a global tax on COFFEE AND WINE to fund food for the hungry. That's what I would call putting money where your mouth is.

But note that Chiracky is not interested in taxing French gun manufacturers, of which theres only a couple anyway. No, the tax has to let France off the hook almost completely.

You know, I almost dont think he cares if France was totally ignored and irrelevant by the "big " players. As long as he can hold his big meetings and talk down to third world countries, he'd be happy. A big fish in a tiny pond.

42 posted on 06/03/2003 12:04:15 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: yankeedame
Fine, as long as there is also an equal global tax on exported wine. After all, it is a luxury that the poor cannot afford, so what better way to transfer from those of excess wealth to those most in need?

I swear there has to be former Clinton advisors somewhere in the chain of Chirac's payroll. This is a classic DNC-style proposal.


43 posted on 06/03/2003 12:14:50 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Squantos
Whoa Sqantos. Apparently the Frogs and Sambamaniacs feel the more arms they sell, the fewer mouths there might be to feed.

I get it. Sort of a pro-active militant Malthusianistic deal. You know, once you buy into Froggielogic, everything somehow gets clearer.

Follow the logic, dude. If they sell enough arms, there won't be any hungry people ... eventually there wouldn't be any people. Brilliant!

44 posted on 06/03/2003 12:36:26 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Nonstatist
EU = New World Order
45 posted on 06/03/2003 12:41:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: coloradan
I may have to buy a gun. Just to defy this intention of control.
46 posted on 06/03/2003 12:44:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: winner3000
Hey! Don't tread on my coffee!
47 posted on 06/03/2003 12:51:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: harpseal
Amen.
48 posted on 06/03/2003 1:25:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
http://www.bushmaster.com

Just in time to beat the UN Gun Tan and to sit back and enjoy the ASB sunset...Bushmaster if offering the Carbon 15.
49 posted on 06/03/2003 1:34:07 PM PDT by Dead Dog (There are no minority rights in a democracy. 51% get's 49%'s stuff.)
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To: Joe Brower
These people are insane! I don't think that any of the G-8 nations, excepting the US, even allow their Citizens to own personal firearms, do they?
If so, this is just an out and out "get the Americans" scheme.
50 posted on 06/03/2003 3:03:50 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: El Laton Caliente
Of the "G8" individual purchases would only really effect the citizens of the, you guessed it, USA!
Read #50. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking like that.

Did you forget "amante"?
El Laton Caliente Amante. LOL!
Adios, Vato loco.
Y tu probablemente piense Felipe es un vato loco también, si.

51 posted on 06/03/2003 3:15:31 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Nat Turner
you end hunger by ending socialism...

Among the many clear examples throughout history, my favorite is Ethiopia. In the 50's, Oklahoma State University started teaching them how to farm more efficiently. In less than a decade, Ethiopia was a net food exporter. Then there was a politcal change, and the Socialists took control. The rest, as they say, is history. Millions have starved to death, the nation has no marketable resources, and farming knowledge has somehow been eliminated. Neither money, weather, guns, nor war had anything to do with it. The switch to Socialism alone destroyed the nation and deprived Eastern Africa of a breadbasket.

52 posted on 06/03/2003 4:48:31 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: yankeedame
Doesn't are Constitution prohibit foreign taxes.
53 posted on 06/03/2003 8:41:59 PM PDT by Dead Dog (There are no minority rights in a democracy. 51% get's 49%'s stuff.)
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To: Teacher317
there are score of other examples as well from the Urkaine to North Korea to Zimbabwe..
54 posted on 06/03/2003 9:31:02 PM PDT by Nat Turner
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To: Joe Brower
End hunger?

Kill Mugabe and Kim Jong Il for starters.

Audit Kofi and Chiraq to find out what they did with the Iraq Oil for Food money.

Tax us?

I don't think so.

It would lead to something which would make the Boston Tea Party look like a tea party by comparison.

But a nice parting gift for Chiraq and Lula will be their bodies boiled, ground, canned and shipped to North Korea.

55 posted on 06/03/2003 10:44:18 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: yankeedame
This is a whole-lotta fear mongering by WND and it won't happen.
56 posted on 06/04/2003 7:41:27 AM PDT by jjm2111 (`)
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To: George Smiley
We do. State lotteries. - LOL!!
57 posted on 06/04/2003 7:44:40 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: yankeedame
They can tax all they want but I doubt that our congress would pass and our President sign any legistlation legitimizing this crap. Can you imagine the pockets that would be filled with cash if this passes with the international community even IF the US doesn't go along with it. There will be Billionaires everywhere and MORE HUNGER than ever!!
58 posted on 06/04/2003 7:45:14 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: Coleus
Story is over here Coleus. Sorry, didn't think of pinging you.
59 posted on 06/05/2003 4:35:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: El Laton Caliente
You forgot the Aussies. They're in the process of regulating KNIVES and CLUBS. They seem to have forgotten the old saying that I first learned as young infantry 2nd Lieutenant: "The most dangerous weapon is the one between your ears."
60 posted on 06/05/2003 5:31:51 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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