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Gays, lesbians lash out at (Catholic) church
The Boston Globe ^
| 5/31/03
| By Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff
Posted on 06/01/2003 1:47:48 PM PDT by GrandMoM
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:09:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Gay and lesbian groups said yesterday that the Catholic Church, under siege for the clergy abuse scandal, lacks the moral authority to mobilize parishioners against same-sex marriage. They are urging parishioners to walk out of services if priests voice the church's opposition to same-sex unions and to boycott church collections.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; child; children; court; defense; deviant; doma; father; gay; gays; homeschool; homosexual; homosexualagenda; idolatry; marriage; mass; mother; prisoners; same; samesexmarriage; school; sex
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''Why do they perceive, and what evidence do they show, that a sustained committed relationship between gay and lesbian persons has such a devastating impact on the married state?'' ....how many times must this be explained?
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:47:48 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
To: scripter
PING
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:49:42 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: GrandMoM
It's not the Catholic church that says so. God says so. The dykes and fags will someday be really surprised.
To: GrandMoM
This has about as much impact as the following headline:
SATAN CONDEMNS GOD WORSHIP
If they don't like Christianity nor want to follow their rules they are perfectly free to start their own religion.
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:54:44 PM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
To: GrandMoM
Gee, do you think maybe the queers don't like the Catholic Church??
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:54:56 PM PDT
by
Ken522
To: GrandMoM
So the ACLU has a problem with the Catholic Church publicly opposing gay marriage. Strange, the ACLU, in the past, had no problem with liberal churches publicly opposing the Iraqi War, campaigning for RAT candidates, and supporting tax increases for more gov't services.
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:55:31 PM PDT
by
Kuksool
To: GrandMoM
I guess we Catholics must be doing something right then.
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:57:42 PM PDT
by
7 x 77
(w)
To: GrandMoM
They are urging parishioners to walk out of services if priests voice the church's opposition to same-sex unions I think this a mute point, I've never heard a homily against homosexuality.
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:59:03 PM PDT
by
7 x 77
(w)
To: GrandMoM
So much for balanced reporting. We have quote's from: "a Gay and Lesbian Political Caucus board member", a N.O.W,. member that "claims to have been raised Catholic (i guess she missed the part about "though shall not kill"), an ACLU board member, and a lay professor at a Jesuit school.
Amazing that they couldn't find a single person that supported the Church's right to free speech.
But then again it is Boston were talking about.
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posted on
06/01/2003 1:59:37 PM PDT
by
Smogger
To: EdReform; Polycarp
PING
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:00:12 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: GrandMoM
After a year in which the church was grappling with the sexual abuse crisis, the mobilization may signal an effort to reenter the arena of public policy. I think that came when they defended Saddam.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:01:52 PM PDT
by
7 x 77
(w)
To: Smogger
Its time for the Catholic Church to administer a little church discipline on these dissenters.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:04:04 PM PDT
by
Kuksool
To: Smogger
Smogger wrote
Amazing that they couldn't find a single person that supported the Church's right to free speech
Kuksoll wrote
Its time for the Catholic Church to administer a little church discipline on these dissenters
I hate to say this but in the interest of fairness I feel I must
While the Catholic Church has the full authority to make any statement they wish regarding any subject they wish, You simply can not talk about someones right to free speech when you telling anyone that disagrees with you to shut up.
I had hoped that the whole DC, Suzi S. debacle would have taught us that crying about free speech when we are trying to silence others is not an acceptable argument.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:13:21 PM PDT
by
The_Pickle
("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
To: GrandMoM
If the Catholics let gay and lesbians become members of the clergy, the result will be more molested children. This is a part of making the Catholic Church less hospitable to gays, thus discouraging them from entering the priesthood.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:14:22 PM PDT
by
ikka
To: GrandMoM; SuziQ
Granny
This issue is a no flier in this State, put this on the Ballot 68 to 32 against. Tommy "the commie" Birmingham our ex-President of the Senate, refused to bring this up during a Constitution Convention on override, Mass Law requires that that an Ammendment to the Constitution be be laid before the Great and General Court in two legislative sessions before it can go on the ballot. This is a requirement you cannot block a vote if it has the required signatures, he did, ran for Gov and lost.
There is a bill to eleminate the Governors Councils role in the appointment of judges, life tenure, and go to a system where the Gov appoints and you have a perodic up or down Vote on tenure, a good thing to my mind. We had 100,000 signatures more than we needed on this issue, the rats aare running scared.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:15:54 PM PDT
by
Little Bill
(No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
To: GrandMoM
With all the heterosexuals that lash out at the Catholic church, I didn't realize there was any oxygen left for lesbians and homosexuals to lash out. Goodness.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:16:19 PM PDT
by
MoJo2001
To: Ken522
Gee, do you think maybe the queers don't like the Catholic Church??....I think they are mad that they don't allow gays in the seminaries now!
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:17:51 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: 7 x 77
I think this a mute point, At the very least, it's a series point. Hugh, even.
Just kidding. I think you meant "moot point."
To: GrandMoM
Wow! Fair and balanced reportage from the Boston Globe, grasping little sister to the NY times.
The gays and others quoted in this article have nothing to do with Catholicism except for claiming the designation. It sounds like they may have been to services held by the false priest the Rev. James Keenan who likes to testify in favor of same-sex marriage. What kind of priest do you suppose he is? Is Keenan part of the problem or part of the solution?
The article said, "Activists called the church's renewed focus on the issue an attempt to regain lost credibility..." Well, same-sex marriage is a damned good place to start reclaiming the moral highground.
It's nice to see that the winds of change reach even here in Massachusetts.
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posted on
06/01/2003 2:19:34 PM PDT
by
thegreatbeast
(Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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