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Chimps Now to be Considered Humans
National Geographic ^ | 5/19/2003 | kkindt

Posted on 05/20/2003 2:05:10 PM PDT by kkindt

A new report argues that chimpanzees are so closely related to humans that they should be included in our branch of the tree of life. Chimpanzees and other apes have historically been separated from humans in classification schemes, with humans deemed the only living members of the hominid family of species

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badscience; chimps; evolunacy; evolution; humannature; imageofgod; soul
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To: tame
Beware the apes in black!!!
201 posted on 05/20/2003 8:21:02 PM PDT by plusone
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To: TheCrusader; All

202 posted on 05/20/2003 8:22:32 PM PDT by tame (I think that mouse is evolving!)
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To: Aric2000
"Is that why when I ask for ONE piece of scientifically verifiable evidence that proves that evolution is false, the creationists become VERY quiet, or do their best to misrepresent it to fit their silly notions?"

You've got the cart before the horse, sir. Theories don't have to be proven false, theories by definition are unproven suppositions. Until a theory is proven true, it remains an hypothesis, a guess. The onus is on you to prove your conjecture. Indeed, your very question is a ruse.

203 posted on 05/20/2003 8:22:35 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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204 posted on 05/20/2003 8:26:02 PM PDT by tame (I keep growing and evolving. Mankind will soon be my pet)
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To: HairOfTheDog
"I would guess that is most helpful getting around here... the only relevant motion is the motion relative to us. If we left the earth, I would guess that would be less helpful to us".

Thank you for so eloquently proving my point. Last time I checked, NASA makes those little ship thingies that leave the earth. :o)

205 posted on 05/20/2003 8:28:55 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: tame
LOL, damn that's funny, CUT IT OUT. hahahaha
206 posted on 05/20/2003 8:29:51 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Guillermo
Um, equating Chimps with Humans is not about scientific research, it's about a political and social agenda.

Heh.... Some of us just think it is pretty fascinating... You on the other hand, only worry about whether or not you are going to have to share something with a monkey.

If you guys would have read the article, it clearly does not say "Chimps Now to be Considered Humans". It just means that somewhere 5 million years back on the tree, there are branches close enough to consider them on the same Genus.... not the same species. We can't breed, let alone marry.... don't worry yourself about it.

207 posted on 05/20/2003 8:30:22 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TheCrusader
Thank you for so eloquently proving my point. Last time I checked, NASA makes those little ship thingies that leave the earth. :o)

Oh brother. Yes, we do leave the earth.... Relatively speaking, our space flights have brought us great leaps, but relative to how big a place the universe really is, not much higher than a pole vaulter.

208 posted on 05/20/2003 8:38:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: dagoofyfoot
The thing that scare's the hell out of me is that some loser from "Dem Underground" will read this thread and lump me in with the likes of you, and the next thing I know they'll be saying that all conservatives are "nuts" and here's the proof!

Funny, we share the same fear. That and my additional fear that they will think we don't know that "scares" is not possessive.

209 posted on 05/20/2003 8:42:42 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: tame
ROTFLMAO OK, you got me...I'm losing it now.


(singing)...and the monkey wrapped his @$$ around the flag pole...to see the grass grow...what an @$$hole...(men in white coats walking towards me now)
210 posted on 05/20/2003 8:43:11 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: kkindt
To err is human, but to order pizza over the internet...


211 posted on 05/20/2003 8:44:37 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: HairOfTheDog
"That is what science is, the study of things.... "

And as we all know, there is what we call "exact science", hypotheses that can be proved, or reproduced through experiment, etc. There are different forms of science. The people who try to present these ape/man/origin-of-man theories as exact science need to be exposed. And judging by the rage of some these pseudo scientists, I can see they don't like to have their misrepresentations torn apart by logic and reason. They present their findings, but festoon them in a fashion that attempts to confuse the reader into thinking their theory has been proven by exact science, it's all smoke and mirrors. That chimps have a 99% similar DNA to humans means nothing to the origin of man, especially when you consider that cats have a 90% similar DNA to humans. And even more so when you consider the fact that science itself has never held DNA to be the indicator of human origin. There are so many presumptions, presppositions and holes in this "scientific" argument that it's like Swiss cheese. As for me, science itself proves the existence of God, just as the Masterpiece proves the existence of an artist. Pax Chrisi.

212 posted on 05/20/2003 8:52:47 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: honeygrl
Not if you moved to Texas. I remember reading in some propaganda about the sodomy case (Lawrence v. Texas, currently pending decision by the Supreme Court) that while homosexual sodomy was illegal in Texas, bestiality was not.

Then again, that makes sense, since, as I learned from Full Metal Jacket, only steers and queers come from Texas. You can only expect to get away with outlawing one of the two.
213 posted on 05/20/2003 8:56:16 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (This space for rent.)
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To: TheCrusader
That chimps have a 99% similar DNA to humans means nothing to the origin of man, especially when you consider that cats have a 90% similar DNA to humans.

Uh huh.... doesn't surprise me, cats and humans are both mammals. The distinctions become smaller the closer you get.... kindof like taking a distance and with each step cutting it in half.

They present their findings, but festoon them in a fashion that attempts to confuse the reader into thinking their theory has been proven by exact science...

That is bull. No one educated at all believes that theories about things as massive and unrepeatable as creation or evolution are fully known, proven, or that there will be no more mysteries or surprises or future better theories.

As for me, science itself proves the existence of God, just as the Masterpiece proves the existence of an artist.

Uh huh.... OK - Some still make a life out of finding out a couple more details. For some, just knowing more about it is cool.

214 posted on 05/20/2003 9:03:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: OREALLY
When science can disprove the existence of God I'll think about !

So where did He disprove the existance of science?

You don't think it can be true both that a deity exists and that life evolves?
215 posted on 05/20/2003 9:10:12 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: Wilhelm Tell
I don't think dogs understand grammar or anything like that, but they are smart enough to associate certain noises we make with certain behavior we expect of them

Doesn't sound too terribly different to me.
216 posted on 05/20/2003 9:16:28 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: HairOfTheDog
We can't breed,

I would bet on that, have you ever taken a close look at CARVEL.

217 posted on 05/20/2003 9:21:32 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: HairOfTheDog
We can't breed,

I would not bet on that, have you ever taken a close look at CARVEL.

218 posted on 05/20/2003 9:22:22 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
LOL!
219 posted on 05/20/2003 9:28:38 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: F.J. Mitchell
LOL! Thanks for the comment...
220 posted on 05/20/2003 9:37:24 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (same old problems, different day...)
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